QUALITY..does it matter? - Page 2

Jart · November 12, 2008, 09:31 PM

To add to the confusion there's a mastercast.net making bullets. There's even a "Mike" apparently running the place. In PA.
http://www.mastercast.net/contact.htm

Then there's a Mike at mastercastbullets.com in IL.

The mastercast.com in the sig line makes golf trinkets and the like.

Sig needs fixed.

Smaug · November 12, 2008, 10:15 PM

If he's the one in Carbondale, IL, I probably won't order from him. I hate paying tax.

mastercast.net is the the one that doesn't have online ordering. I'm not a big fan of that either.

I guess it's back to Meister for now.

ShootingNut · November 13, 2008, 08:15 AM

If I'm not mistaken, your Il sales tax on an order is considerably less money, than the difference in cost from Meister to Mastercastbullets.
You should call or email Mike to confirm, but here's what shows on both websites, if you haven't looked.
9mm 125 gr. 1000 count Meister $91.05 Mike $42.85
.40 155 gr. 1000 count Meister $85.70 Mike $53.14
.38 158 gr. 1000 count Meister $99.09 Mike $54.17
.45 200 gr. 1000 count Meister $107.33 Mike $68.57

Again, check Mikes current pricing by a phone call if you want.
Looking at the above, I wouldn't discount Mike just because you would
have to pay sales tax. UNLESS, it just a "matter of principle", then I understand why you would want to pay more in the end.

Regards,
SN
PS: Forgot, Mikes you would have to add that $8.90 USPS shipping up to 70#'s of lead.

Double J · November 14, 2008, 03:23 PM

What would be great would be high quality at a cheap price. I don't shoot as much these days so I can pretty well keep a supply of quality ammo on hand to use. However, the grandkids are shooting more now so I have to keep them going with cheap stuff. Soon they'll be graduating to better gear and Old Gramps will have to shell out more dough to keep peace in the ranks.
So , I think there is a place for cheap and top shelf ammo.

floydster · November 17, 2008, 09:15 PM

If you want great bullets at a super price contact Matt Dardas Bullets, he can't be beat, believe me, I tried them all.
His casting is absolutley the best I have even used, bar none, and I shoot a lot of cast as do my Son In laws, we shoot competition twice a month at a police range and I have been getting outstanding groups with Matts bullets.
Try them, you will be pleased.

shepherddogs · November 17, 2008, 10:21 PM

I've bought cast lead bullets from probably 8 different suppliers and I've never gotten any that weren't of good quality. A few duds mixed in occasionally like 1/2 of 1%, usually less. I have gotten one batch years ago that tended to lead barrels if shot very fast. Quality has rarely been an issue with any bullets I have bought. So I look for cheap and try a few. Then if they are good I get some more. I particularly like Magnus but their prices have gotten too high. Thats why I'm going back to casting.

45Marlin carbine · November 18, 2008, 09:42 AM

this spring early I got some .32acp slugs (he's the only maker I could find for them lots make .32 S&W) and .380acp slugs from Mike in Carbondale. they shoot as good as the Speer FMJ's I was useing in practice rounds.
clean-up was just another couple-three solvent soaked patch wipes more than the FMJ's.
that's quality and the price was right and Mike's good fella to chat with to boot.

Sevens · November 18, 2008, 10:38 AM

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I've bought cast lead bullets from probably 8 different suppliers and I've never gotten any that weren't of good quality.

I'd say that either you've been fortunate, or you don't realize what a lousy cast bullet looks like. Given that you've had cast bullets from 8 different suppliers, I'm guessing you have done your fair share of both shooting and reloading. So I will have to assume that you have just been QUITE lucky!

I've seen major differences in the quality of cast bullets. Some things that are easy to spot-- un-sharp edges, obviously misaligned mold halves leaving an ugly line right in the middle of your bullet, cheap lube that doesn't stay on the bullet, wildly varying bullet weights, ugly sprue dots on the base of the bullets, off-colored bullets, frosted bullets, bullets that lead up your barrel, non-standard sizing and the list goes on.

I've had decent luck with a long-time semi-local supplier here in Ohio (Vance bullets out of Rushelvania) but they've been hard to find recently. The most recent box I snagged in a local store was from a caster out of Newark, I think, called Patriot. The lower quality of these bullets is quite obvious.

I hope your luck with good cast bullets continues, but that's not been my experience.

ShootingNut · December 6, 2008, 08:04 AM

Mike (Mastercastbullets) has been noticable absent lately from any threads.
Anyone recently had contact with him, ordering his lead?
SN

n9viw · May 26, 2009, 03:28 PM

Well, I know this is an old thread, but I came here looking for info about Mike. Seems his 'handle' is no longer in the Members List, but it does come up in threads, and his profile is still active. Odd! According to his profile, the last time he posted was 3/22/09, which is around the same time I last heard from him myself.

I placed an order with him on 3/7/09, and am still waiting for it. I've just sent the third email, and will try to call again today, although my previous calls have gone unanswered and I received no reply to the message I left.
BUT!
There's light at the end of this tunnel, and it's probably Mike's emergency flashlight!

I spoke with him today, and he said they just got their power back on after some hurricane-level winds and hail. How they get hurricanes up to IL is anyone's guess, but it knocked out power for some time. Prior to that it was ice storms and flooding. "I don't know who we PO'd out here in IL!" was his comment, no kidding!

So, he's got limited connection, but if you need to reach him, best thing to do is call. It's anyone's guess when he'd have the free time to log in here, and with his provider sporadically losing his inbox, then sending him hundreds of messages at a time, the best thing to do is just phone.

As for my order, he's sending out the M of Luger (125gr TCN), but we're waiting on an M of 93gr RN Makarov- he does have a two-hole hand press for those, but it can't handle more than a couple hundred rounds an hour. He's got an 8-hole machine mold on order, which has been promised for several weeks, but he's still waiting to receive it and put it to work.

Patience pays!

Nick

Doodlebugger45 · May 26, 2009, 03:59 PM

The prices look extremely reasonable to me. When it comes to cast bullets, I have no problem paying an extra $20 or so per 1000 to get a better product.

James R. Burke · May 26, 2009, 06:37 PM

I pretty much aggree with Kraigwy he is correct. When I reload it is not to save money or to throw it away. I want the best I can get for what I am using it for. If you can get good quality at a better price fine, but I try to use the best primer, case, powder for that caliber and bullet, and of course the bullet. You still are going to come out alittle ahead of factory, but again that is not what I am looking for. I want to know I am doing my best to turn out the best round that I can.

Doodlebugger45 · May 26, 2009, 07:34 PM

If you look at each component price for a single cartridge, the price of a great bullet compared to a lousy bullet is pretty small. I figured out once for my 45-70 that the primer costs about $0.04, the powder costs about $0.19, and the bullets cost anywhere from $0.10 to $0.18. So the total cartridge cost (ignoring the brass which gets used again and again) is about $0.33 to $0.40 per round. And that is the most expensive round I reload. But I compare it to $1.45 to $1.80 per round for factory ammo. So, who cares if they spend an extra $0.03 if it means the difference between a great cartridge or a bad one??

42769vette · May 26, 2009, 07:39 PM

for my 243 quality is the only think that matters. for my ar cheap and safe is this only thing that matters. i think it depends what the shooter is happy with. in my 243 im mad at a 1 inch group at 100. in my ar im happy with a 3 inch group at 100

Nate1778 · May 26, 2009, 10:23 PM

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I keep seeing posts requesting the "CHEAPEST" price. Is "CHEAP" the new goal for those of us in business?

In not so many words yes, to most it is. This is why china, Mexico and India are building our products (generally speaking of coarse). Product is junk but its cheap as hell. I also think a lot of people tend to buy the cheapest when its a one time use item, some things excepted of coarse like parachutes. You send a bullet down range and it becomes trash, its hard to justify beating a dime up with a hammer every 5 seconds so some prefer to trash the least expensive component.

For me its not so much price, or quality, but service. I like a company that communicates with its patrons and lets them know what is going on. In order from that I would say quality, then price. Lets face it we didn't get into the "gun" hobby to save money.

That last part kills me about some of these post, some guys get so excited to save $2.99 on a K of bullets to send down the barrel of their $1,000 .45 or .357 and complain about the prices of components. If your that hard up for $2.99 maybe this isn't the hobby for you.

I know people that will drive clear to the other side of town to buy a product non gun related to save $10. I guess some people feel like they are being taken advantage of if there is a cheaper price elsewhere.

dahermit · May 26, 2009, 11:16 PM

Depends upon the application. For practice speed shooting at my home-made steel "bowling pins" I am not excessively concerned about the highest quality projectiles (shooting my own home-cast bullets). However, for target applications and competition, I take great pains to obtain the highest quality available (careful case preparation, and weighed match bullets).

Dannyl · May 27, 2009, 10:46 AM

Hi All,
First, I think what people really mean by "cheap" is "good value for money paid" and not " cheap & Nasty".

from my side, I use both top of the range and "more easily affordable" stuff, depending on the application.
For instance, when I teach my son to shoot with a 0.22 pistol and revolver, if it is for plinking at cans from 15 meters, where my intention is to teach him the correct grip, use of open sights and trigger control, then cheap ( yet reliable and FAIRLY accurate) ammunition is good enough. but when I teach him to shoot metallic Silouhette (0.22 Anschutz rifle) to distances of up to 100 meter, then we use "top of the range" ammunition.

I apply the same principle to my handgun ammunition, for pin-shooting & IDPA, cast heads save me heaps of money. I have just started shooting metallic silouhette with my S&W 586 (0.357) and I am able to consistently hit plates (8"x8") at 200M using cast lead bullets (I take my hat off to the local manufacturer) without necessarily having to spend a fortune on highly rated and priced jacketed bullets.

With my 3006, my hunting & hunt-practice ammunition is loaded with HORNADY intelock and interbond bullets.
for practice, to keep my hands and eye in shape, as well as for metal silouhette, I use other bullets, that are good enough for the job. They are not constructed well enough for hunting, which makes them more affordable, but are good enough to knock down a plate and group within 1.5" at 100M.

Being able to shoot well requires a good firearm, decent ammunition, and lots of practice. By doing this my son and I can shoot more for less money. which goes a long way towards having fun and shooting better.

However, one must never compromise on safety, so if a certain component is within the "cheap and nasty" category, rather not touch it.

Cheers,
Danny

RamSlammer · May 27, 2009, 12:25 PM

I use Missouri Bullet and notice Mastercast's prices are nearly identical. With Missouri Bullet, I usually get my order in 4 days or less. Have never ordered from MC . . . How's their turnaround time on orders and has anyone used both that'd care to comment on the quality comparison. Missouri's products seem fine quality to me . . . never a problem and always in spec.

noelf2 · May 27, 2009, 02:33 PM

Mike is at www.mastercastbullets.com. There's also a www.mastercast.net, which is a different bullet co. I've ordered from Mike before and got very good quality bullets at very good prices. I did contact Mike a month or so ago and he told me he was really backlogged. I ended up ordering from Missouri Bullet and got a very good product as well. Took about 5 days from order to delivery.

Alleykat · May 27, 2009, 05:36 PM

People are looking for "cheap" reloading components because we're in the midst of a deep recession and loading components have skyrocketed in the past year.

TEDDY · May 27, 2009, 06:23 PM

do you mean cheap or do you mean inexpensive.maybe its the "cheap" part.
I buy inexpensive.and I buy china.why because I get usful quility at low price I do have tools of name brands,but I also have upgrades from china.nobody complains a bout foreign rifles at low prices.nor AKs or SKSs.and they would not turn their noses up at chinese ammo.
If the gov would let the manufacturers build with out political over sight our companies would produce good and reasonable priced.and the gun ownes buy american guns.winchester went down the tubes,for a number of reasons,the machinery was obsolete.and when FN took over they just dumped as they made winchesters in Belguim and Japan.I dont see one pistol better than the 1911.colt screwed up when they could have built a double stack 45.as S&W did when they built the Schofield 45.and H&R and Iver when they stopped making break actions.

lll Otto lll · May 27, 2009, 07:13 PM

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Mike is at www.mastercastbullets.com. There's also a www.mastercast.net, which is a different bullet co. I've ordered from Mike before and got very good quality bullets at very good prices.

Both owners are named Mike.

noelf2 · May 27, 2009, 08:48 PM

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Both owners are named Mike.

Well one of them needs to change their name

I ordered from Mike at mastercastbullets

GeauxTide · May 27, 2009, 08:53 PM

Price, in the absence of value, is not a consideration.

Tex S · May 28, 2009, 12:14 AM

I have been looking for Mike myself. I spoke with him over the phone for 30 or 45 minutes several weeks ago. This was the first time we had ever met and he seemed pretty cool. He was going to send me out a sample of bullets, but called me a few days later and said that they had some high winds and he was running behind/no power/something to that effect. I have tried to call and email several times since then to no avail.

Hope all is well.

Hope he can get me some bullets pretty darn quick as I'm runnin' looooooooowwwwwww!

November 12, 2008, 10:15 PM	#27
Smaug Senior Member Join Date: June 4, 2004 Location: SE Wisconsin Posts: 3,210	If he's the one in Carbondale, IL, I probably won't order from him. I hate paying tax. mastercast.net is the the one that doesn't have online ordering. I'm not a big fan of that either. I guess it's back to Meister for now. __________________ -Jeremy "Rudeness is the weak man's imitation of strength." - Eric Hoffer

November 13, 2008, 08:15 AM	#28
ShootingNut Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,475	Smaug If I'm not mistaken, your Il sales tax on an order is considerably less money, than the difference in cost from Meister to Mastercastbullets. You should call or email Mike to confirm, but here's what shows on both websites, if you haven't looked. 9mm 125 gr. 1000 count Meister $91.05 Mike $42.85 .40 155 gr. 1000 count Meister $85.70 Mike $53.14 .38 158 gr. 1000 count Meister $99.09 Mike $54.17 .45 200 gr. 1000 count Meister $107.33 Mike $68.57 Again, check Mikes current pricing by a phone call if you want. Looking at the above, I wouldn't discount Mike just because you would have to pay sales tax. UNLESS, it just a "matter of principle", then I understand why you would want to pay more in the end. Regards, SN PS: Forgot, Mikes you would have to add that $8.90 USPS shipping up to 70#'s of lead.

November 14, 2008, 03:23 PM	#29
Double J Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2007 Location: So. Illinois Posts: 547	Ammo What would be great would be high quality at a cheap price. I don't shoot as much these days so I can pretty well keep a supply of quality ammo on hand to use. However, the grandkids are shooting more now so I have to keep them going with cheap stuff. Soon they'll be graduating to better gear and Old Gramps will have to shell out more dough to keep peace in the ranks. So , I think there is a place for cheap and top shelf ammo.

November 18, 2008, 09:42 AM	#32
45Marlin carbine Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2007 Location: South-Western North Carolina Posts: 1,124	this spring early I got some .32acp slugs (he's the only maker I could find for them lots make .32 S&W) and .380acp slugs from Mike in Carbondale. they shoot as good as the Speer FMJ's I was useing in practice rounds. clean-up was just another couple-three solvent soaked patch wipes more than the FMJ's. that's quality and the price was right and Mike's good fella to chat with to boot. Last edited by 45Marlin carbine; November 18, 2008 at 12:59 PM. Reason: misspell

December 6, 2008, 08:04 AM	#34
ShootingNut Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2006 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,475	Where's Mike Mike (Mastercastbullets) has been noticable absent lately from any threads. Anyone recently had contact with him, ordering his lead? SN

November 12, 2008, 09:31 PM	#26
Jart Senior Member Join Date: December 25, 2001 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 1,647	To add to the confusion there's a mastercast.net making bullets. There's even a "Mike" apparently running the place. In PA. http://www.mastercast.net/contact.htm Then there's a Mike at mastercastbullets.com in IL. The mastercast.com in the sig line makes golf trinkets and the like. Sig needs fixed.

November 17, 2008, 09:15 PM	#30
floydster Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 2008 Posts: 472	If you want great bullets at a super price contact Matt Dardas Bullets, he can't be beat, believe me, I tried them all. His casting is absolutley the best I have even used, bar none, and I shoot a lot of cast as do my Son In laws, we shoot competition twice a month at a police range and I have been getting outstanding groups with Matts bullets. Try them, you will be pleased.

November 17, 2008, 10:21 PM	#31
shepherddogs Senior Member Join Date: January 9, 2007 Posts: 1,007	I've bought cast lead bullets from probably 8 different suppliers and I've never gotten any that weren't of good quality. A few duds mixed in occasionally like 1/2 of 1%, usually less. I have gotten one batch years ago that tended to lead barrels if shot very fast. Quality has rarely been an issue with any bullets I have bought. So I look for cheap and try a few. Then if they are good I get some more. I particularly like Magnus but their prices have gotten too high. Thats why I'm going back to casting.

May 26, 2009, 03:28 PM	#35
n9viw Junior Member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Worth Co, MO Posts: 14	Mike IS alive! Well, I know this is an old thread, but I came here looking for info about Mike. Seems his 'handle' is no longer in the Members List, but it does come up in threads, and his profile is still active. Odd! According to his profile, the last time he posted was 3/22/09, which is around the same time I last heard from him myself. I placed an order with him on 3/7/09, and am still waiting for it. I've just sent the third email, and will try to call again today, although my previous calls have gone unanswered and I received no reply to the message I left. BUT! There's light at the end of this tunnel, and it's probably Mike's emergency flashlight! I spoke with him today, and he said they just got their power back on after some hurricane-level winds and hail. How they get hurricanes up to IL is anyone's guess, but it knocked out power for some time. Prior to that it was ice storms and flooding. "I don't know who we PO'd out here in IL!" was his comment, no kidding! So, he's got limited connection, but if you need to reach him, best thing to do is call. It's anyone's guess when he'd have the free time to log in here, and with his provider sporadically losing his inbox, then sending him hundreds of messages at a time, the best thing to do is just phone. As for my order, he's sending out the M of Luger (125gr TCN), but we're waiting on an M of 93gr RN Makarov- he does have a two-hole hand press for those, but it can't handle more than a couple hundred rounds an hour. He's got an 8-hole machine mold on order, which has been promised for several weeks, but he's still waiting to receive it and put it to work. Patience pays! Nick

May 26, 2009, 03:59 PM	#36
Doodlebugger45 Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2009 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,717	The prices look extremely reasonable to me. When it comes to cast bullets, I have no problem paying an extra $20 or so per 1000 to get a better product.

May 26, 2009, 06:37 PM	#37
James R. Burke Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2009 Location: U.P. of Mich/Quinnesec Posts: 1,897	I pretty much aggree with Kraigwy he is correct. When I reload it is not to save money or to throw it away. I want the best I can get for what I am using it for. If you can get good quality at a better price fine, but I try to use the best primer, case, powder for that caliber and bullet, and of course the bullet. You still are going to come out alittle ahead of factory, but again that is not what I am looking for. I want to know I am doing my best to turn out the best round that I can.

May 26, 2009, 07:34 PM	#38
Doodlebugger45 Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2009 Location: Wyoming Posts: 1,717	If you look at each component price for a single cartridge, the price of a great bullet compared to a lousy bullet is pretty small. I figured out once for my 45-70 that the primer costs about $0.04, the powder costs about $0.19, and the bullets cost anywhere from $0.10 to $0.18. So the total cartridge cost (ignoring the brass which gets used again and again) is about $0.33 to $0.40 per round. And that is the most expensive round I reload. But I compare it to $1.45 to $1.80 per round for factory ammo. So, who cares if they spend an extra $0.03 if it means the difference between a great cartridge or a bad one??

May 26, 2009, 07:39 PM	#39
42769vette Member Join Date: January 11, 2009 Posts: 86	for my 243 quality is the only think that matters. for my ar cheap and safe is this only thing that matters. i think it depends what the shooter is happy with. in my 243 im mad at a 1 inch group at 100. in my ar im happy with a 3 inch group at 100

May 26, 2009, 11:16 PM	#41
dahermit Senior Member Join Date: October 28, 2006 Location: South Central Michigan...near Posts: 6,501	Depends upon the application. For practice *speed shooting* at my home-made steel "bowling pins" I am not excessively concerned about the highest quality projectiles (shooting my own home-cast bullets). However, for target applications and competition, I take great pains to obtain the highest quality available (careful case preparation, and weighed match bullets).

May 27, 2009, 10:46 AM	#42
Dannyl Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Cape Town - South Africa Posts: 627	Cheap versus quality Hi All, First, I think what people really mean by "cheap" is "good value for money paid" and not " cheap & Nasty". from my side, I use both top of the range and "more easily affordable" stuff, depending on the application. For instance, when I teach my son to shoot with a 0.22 pistol and revolver, if it is for plinking at cans from 15 meters, where my intention is to teach him the correct grip, use of open sights and trigger control, then cheap ( yet reliable and FAIRLY accurate) ammunition is good enough. but when I teach him to shoot metallic Silouhette (0.22 Anschutz rifle) to distances of up to 100 meter, then we use "top of the range" ammunition. I apply the same principle to my handgun ammunition, for pin-shooting & IDPA, cast heads save me heaps of money. I have just started shooting metallic silouhette with my S&W 586 (0.357) and I am able to consistently hit plates (8"x8") at 200M using cast lead bullets (I take my hat off to the local manufacturer) without necessarily having to spend a fortune on highly rated and priced jacketed bullets. With my 3006, my hunting & hunt-practice ammunition is loaded with HORNADY intelock and interbond bullets. for practice, to keep my hands and eye in shape, as well as for metal silouhette, I use other bullets, that are good enough for the job. They are not constructed well enough for hunting, which makes them more affordable, but are good enough to knock down a plate and group within 1.5" at 100M. Being able to shoot well requires a good firearm, decent ammunition, and lots of practice. By doing this my son and I can shoot more for less money. which goes a long way towards having fun and shooting better. However, one must never compromise on safety, so if a certain component is within the "cheap and nasty" category, rather not touch it. Cheers, Danny

May 27, 2009, 12:25 PM	#43
RamSlammer Senior Member Join Date: November 5, 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 722	I use Missouri Bullet and notice Mastercast's prices are nearly identical. With Missouri Bullet, I usually get my order in 4 days or less. Have never ordered from MC . . . How's their turnaround time on orders and has anyone used both that'd care to comment on the quality comparison. Missouri's products seem fine quality to me . . . never a problem and always in spec.

May 27, 2009, 02:33 PM	#44
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	Mike is at www.mastercastbullets.com. There's also a www.mastercast.net, which is a different bullet co. I've ordered from Mike before and got very good quality bullets at very good prices. I did contact Mike a month or so ago and he told me he was really backlogged. I ended up ordering from Missouri Bullet and got a very good product as well. Took about 5 days from order to delivery. __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

May 27, 2009, 05:36 PM	#45
Alleykat Junior member Join Date: July 26, 2007 Posts: 3,668	People are looking for "cheap" reloading components because we're in the midst of a deep recession and loading components have skyrocketed in the past year.

May 27, 2009, 06:23 PM	#46
TEDDY Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: MANNING SC Posts: 837	???????????? do you mean cheap or do you mean inexpensive.maybe its the "cheap" part. I buy inexpensive.and I buy china.why because I get usful quility at low price I do have tools of name brands,but I also have upgrades from china.nobody complains a bout foreign rifles at low prices.nor AKs or SKSs.and they would not turn their noses up at chinese ammo. If the gov would let the manufacturers build with out political over sight our companies would produce good and reasonable priced.and the gun ownes buy american guns.winchester went down the tubes,for a number of reasons,the machinery was obsolete.and when FN took over they just dumped as they made winchesters in Belguim and Japan.I dont see one pistol better than the 1911.colt screwed up when they could have built a double stack 45.as S&W did when they built the Schofield 45.and H&R and Iver when they stopped making break actions.

May 27, 2009, 08:53 PM	#49
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,514	Price, in the absence of value, is not a consideration.

May 28, 2009, 12:14 AM	#50
Tex S Senior Member Join Date: November 12, 2008 Location: Fort Worth, TEXAS Posts: 909	I have been looking for Mike myself. I spoke with him over the phone for 30 or 45 minutes several weeks ago. This was the first time we had ever met and he seemed pretty cool. He was going to send me out a sample of bullets, but called me a few days later and said that they had some high winds and he was running behind/no power/something to that effect. I have tried to call and email several times since then to no avail. Hope all is well. Hope he can get me some bullets pretty darn quick as I'm runnin' looooooooowwwwwww!