Air Force pilot handguns

[Shorts]

Only the MAs (gate guards/centrys/forgive my lack of total knowledge) carry weapons while on duty, and here, it's still the M9 and every now and again there's a shotgun present

[LAK]

yayarx7

I have heard of some Security Forces types have to qualify with the 12 gauge but I believe that is for DOD base security. ( I looked it up and only one member of the SF squadron needs to be 12 ga qualified) The only 12 gauge I have ever seen on an air base belongs to the guy that shot it to chase off the birds on the runway. I could be wrong though

I do not know what the current Defense Forces train with and are issued, but I would say that it is very likely dependent on theatre, command, base and unit. I was an 81152 in the late 70s/early 80s when Law Enforcement and Security Specialist were two separate AFSCs. I (and others) went to Camp Bullis, Texas for several weeks after the Security Police Academy for some "extras" that including the M60, hand grenades and the M203 40mm grenade launcher.

At duty stations, in addition to the standard sidearm (S&W model 15s); we had Remington 870s in some patrol vehicles, M16s (some with M203 40mm grenade launchers) and later CAR-15s were available for our "SWAT" unit. Security Specialists carried the S&W model 15s, M16s - and M60s on SAT teams.

I think the pilot weapons issue is probably no doubt like any other time in history during various hostile campaigns; what standard issue is, the rulebook says, and what is seen during the ORIs etc - is not necessarily all that goes into the air on operations.

The hand-carried baggage of pilots and aircrews in general are not searched when they go about their operational business - even on international flights from one U.S. base to another. I flew via Britain once (to take leave there enroute to Germany) with several handguns in a briefcase. When I got off the plane I walked around the terminal (think it was Mildenhall) and had to ask for British Customs. I could of just strolled out of the terminal and got in a taxi and left.

They were very grateful I'd taken the trouble to find them.

[Slateman]

OK call BS if you want, but I have seen my Uncle's squadron qualify with Browning Hi Powers. Though it is a reserve unit if that matters.

And as for qualifying with the 12 guage, I'm not exactly certain that this was an offically sanctioned weapon. My uncle led me to believe that the crew chief just brought his own from home and cleared it with the craft commander (my uncle). My uncle is cool with it simply because, well, honestly, what does it hurt? As my uncle, quoting the crew chief, said, "Who knows? We may actually end up in #$&*"

As for own weapons, I asked my uncle again. He says they get a choice of the brownings and m1911 that are stockpiled in the armory. My mistake, I misheard. Though he did point out that his gun is actually in his survival bag, and he's the only one that ever messes with it. For all intents and purposes, he could pack whatever could fit in it.

[liliysdad]

He says they get a choice of the brownings and m1911 that are stockpiled in the armory

Exavtly how many BHPs are in the United States Military's supply lines? Cant recall as I remember them ever being issued to anyone......

[ISP2605]

I spent 24.5 yrs in the USAF and ANG (plus 2 yrs Army). I retired as the SF commander. About 1/2 my career was enlisted and the remainder commissioned. For those who aren't familiar wtih USAF and SF, the SF commander is also commander over CATM (Combat Arms Training and Maintenance). Those are the guys who are responsible for base populace, pilots included, qualification and weapons maintenance.
What the aircraft commander permits on his AC is up to that AC cmdr. However, for someone to carry an non-USAF/personal weapons is not permitted by regs and the AC cmdr is doing so at risk to his career and the careers of those he OKs. In other words, it's not truly up to the AC cmdr.
Pilots will be issued an M-9 for in-theatre ops. LAK is correct in his posting.
Shotguns can be authorized for SF base security. In about 1998 before I retired I requested shotguns for base patrol and one for the main gate. USAF sent me 6. When I opened the crates there were 6 "new" Winchester Model 12s. They were in perfect condition. Real beauties. A couple of months later I got in 6 or so 870s. They were in pretty decent shape but definitely not the condition of the Model 12s. The 12s were so pretty I almost hated issuing them out. Just 1 shift and they were already getting beat marks.
I received more than a bit of training on all the weapons issued to and by the SF and base populace. I never saw a BHP in any armory, nor ever saw a AF Reg covering maintenance of a BHP. The only BHPs I played with in the service was during my time when attached to the RAF Police and Regiment in Germany. Those boys carried BHPs, altho they were required to be unloaded. They also carried Stens which were loaded. Never made much sense why they could carry their Stens loaded but not the BHPs. But that's a topic for another thread.

[juliet charley]

I think Slateman better watch out--that "uncle" of his is liable to sell him 50 yards or flightline and five pounds of relative bearing grease if he's not careful.

[ISP2605]

I've still got a box or 2 of grid squares that I'd part with at a decent price.

[Gewehr98]

At least until my 20 years are up in the Air Force next May. We're issued M9 Berettas. When I first started flying in 1989, we had the M38 revolvers. During Desert Storm they gave us 1911's. I wish we still had them.

[azspyder]

You guys are all so young. As a young fighter driver during Korea, we carried 1911s. Soon after they issued the aircrewman. What a piece of crap! You had the distict disadvantage of holding a lethal weapon that couldn't stop a fight. Plus, a couple of hundred rounds and they were worn out. Most of us just hung on to our 1911s. When the Beretta came out, I decided not to paricipate and continued to carry my 1911. I did have to qualify on the Beretta though. Nobody ever tryed to take away my Colt in Vietnam either. I still have it.

[srfl]

512 AW (AFRES) had/has BHP's in the armory? I was with the 436 AW (in all three flying squadrons - 3rd, 9th, 31st) in the intel shop (between 1989 and 1992) and having briefed aircrew from all of Dover's flying squadrons (to include AFRES' 326th and 709th AS) I never recalled ever seeing anything other than an M9 in anyone's holster...and that includes the old SOLL II (special operations low-level) crews.

[Lone Star]

This has varied. I was in during the 1960's, as a cop. We had .45's still at some bases, and a mix of S&W Victory Models and Colt Commando and Official Police .38's until enough of the new Combat Masterpieces arrived. Units headed for Vietnam, and SAC had first priority on those. At some bases, officers and senior NCO's got the new guns first. The rest carried the WW II issue, which I think we scrounged from the Navy.

During prisoner escort to and from the dining hall. at least one man had a 12 ga. shotgun. Shotguns were also issued for riots and other major unrest.

M2 carbines and later M-16's were issued for base defense, including those airmen who guarded posts on the perimeter and at times on the flight line. They were probably routine for SAC cops guarding missle silos and B-52 flight lines. Usually, we just had the .38 or .45 and a nightstick.

Our officers often bought their own guns. One had an S&W M-14, the six-inch version of the official gun. Investigators and OSI and some officers had Detective Specials, most with hammer shrouds.

The aircrew I saw had S&W .38's with four-inch barrels, the same mix as already described. Many had non-standard holsters, especially in SE Asia. I sometimes wore a Jordan holster, so leather gear had some latitude, depending on who was in charge and if they gave a damn. In Denver, (Lowry AFB), we had to buy our own holsters when I arrived, as Supply was out.

What's the name of that officer shot down over Bosnia a few years ago? Aha! Scott O'Grady! In his book, "Return With Honor", he said he had an M-9, which rusted while he was on the run, and his Swiss Army knife was much better than the issue knife. Stainless, and sharper...he didn't say if the issue knife he meant was the Pilot Survival sheath model or the all steel utility pocketknife. I believe he is an NRA Director now.

Army helicopter pilots had Airweight S&W .38's, the M-12. I never saw them in the USAF. I think the all-alloy Aircrewman guns were mainly for SAC bomber crews in the 1950's. They were freaked on high tech, and insisted on light weight They also had folding .22 Hornet rifles in seat packs, or a folding .22 Hornet/.410 shotgun. The snub .38's, as stated in a prior post, were scrapped when they didn't hold up. They were, I believe, replaced with four-inch .38's. SAC Elite Guard Security Police at Offut AFB, Nebraska had stag-handled (probably plastic, not real antler) snubs. A friend who'd been at Fairchild AFB, Washington said they'd had snubs there. too. Probably S&W M-15's.

Back then, officers at at least some bases could keep sidearms in their quarters. Naval pilots have a safe in their rooms for this, I believe. (Read, "Flight of the Intruder" by former Naval Aviator Stephen Coonts.) I think USAF officers can no longer keep guns in their rooms. I blame this on the generally anti-gun attitude that left many of Gen. Swartzkopf's staff officers not wearing their pistols during Desert Storm. They actually were so ill trained that they were considered unsafe with a pistol!

Recent photos from Iraq and Afghanistan show more personnel with pistols than one once saw. That gal who just won the Silver Star was wearing her's in a shoulder holster when she received the medal, as were the officers presenting medals. Just yesterday, I saw a newspaper ("USA Today"?) with a feature on an Army pilot who'd also served in Vietnam. Looked like his shoulder holster was too short for the M-9, although it probably held some sort of auto.

I suspect that regs are ignored in some squadrons, enforced in others.

During WW II, many officers did buy their own handguns, and Capt. Ted Lawson ("Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo") went into some detail about the personal arms carried by his B-25 crew. It was quite a list. Lawson personally had a .45, his wife's Colt .32 auto, and I think, a .25. Plus a variety of knives.
Some multi-engine aircraft in Burma, at any rate, carried rifles, carbines, and Thompson SMG's, in case the plane was forced down in the jungle. Ordinarily, enlisted crew didn't have sidearms, but the theatre commander pressed for .45's for them, too, and got them. It was partially a morale issue, he said.
One B-17 gunner ran out of .50 caliber ammo, and downed a Bf-109 with his S&W .38 Special revolver! That was over Europe, and I'd bet that wasn't an issued gun... Books by RAF pilots reveal some odd items, like Robert Stanford-Tuck's .32 Beretta, or "Bob" Braham's Luger, which he bummed from an Intelligence officer. It had come off of a German aircrewman shot down over Britain. The Germans got it back when Braham's Mosquito was shot down over Denmark. He wrote that the German MP's who picked him up gave him a nasty scowl when they found it on him.

Remember Joe Foss, the Marine (later Air Force) pilot who won a Medal of Honor over Guadalcanal? He wrote that a Jap pilot fished out of the ocean by a Navy boat tried to shoot a downed Marine aviator who had also just been picked up. That guy had a Nambu 8mm, although some Jap pilots had M94 8mm's or the M26 9mm revolver. German pilots favored .32 autos, although the most decorated of all, Hans Rudel, had a .25. He didn't mention the brand. Bomber and JU-52 enlisted aircrew usually had Lugers. Fighter pilots liked a trimmer gun in their tight cockpits. Most didn't seem to expect to be able to use their guns, anyway. The Luftwaffe also issued some drillings by J.P. Sauer und Sohn with 9.3X72mm rifle barrel and 16 gauge (?) shotgun barrels. These were packed on larger 'planes flying over North Africa, in case they were needed for survival use.

Lone Star

[XavierBreath]

My squadron, VFA151 did a group buy on Glocks prior to hostilities in 1990.
Otherwise, they would have been issued S&W revolvers, I'm not sure of the model. The PR shop got to make up Glock holsters.

[Jeff #111]

My dad was an SP in the mid-60's. His unit was sent from Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho to South Vietnam in 1965. They were assigned to Bien Hoa air base. Dad said that the M-16's were just coming into the system at that time and the majority of their issue weapons were WW II/Korean war vintage.

Dad was issued a S&W M15 w/4" barrel and a Winchester Model 12 riot gun. He also said that several of the SP's were issued M2 carbines (selective fire) and he recalled a few carrying M3A1 Grease Guns. The M15 seemed to be the standard issue handgun though a few had 1911's. After a couple of months of arriving my father said he "adopted" a Walther PPK. A local tailor made him a shoulder holster for it and he would carry it on his person at all times - with the approval of his CO. It worked well and he speculates that it had been banging around SE Asia since the French had been running the show. It was the early days of the war.

Many of the veteran NCO's and senior officers had been in the Army Air Corp during WW2 and more then a few had transferred from the Army to the Air Force when it became it's own branch in 1947.Dad's CO had fought as a grunt in the Pacific campaign during WW2 and was a firm believer in having alot of guns. Sounds like the Air Force was an interesting creature back then.

By the end of his tour the M16 had pretty much replaced the carbines and grease guns though the shotguns were still being issued. They also had the M60 GPMG in their armory and other assorted ordnance. He recalls the majority of the pilots carrying snub nosed S&W 38's, but he recalls seeing 1911's and some revolvers with 4" barrels also being carried by the pilots in their shoulder holsters. He never asked, but it seemed to him that the regs for the pilots when it came to handguns were pretty loose. Once again this was forty years ago and at the beginning of our involvment in South Vietnam.

Dad also said that by the end of his tour the Air Force was starting to crack down on the SPs (i.e. enlisted men) carrying their own personal weapons. It was still going on, but the airmen were having to be more stealthy about it. No more M28's with 6" barrels hanging from their pistol belts.

[IZinterrogator]

I've still got a box or 2 of grid squares that I'd part with at a decent price.

Likewise, I have a box of chemlight batteries that I am willing to part with. Oh, and if you need the keys to the drop zone, PM me. I'll be in the motor pool this afternoon getting exhaust samples from the Humvees and checking for soft spots in the armor of the tracked vehicles, but I'll reply this evening.

[Jeff22]

LAK and ISP2605 and Lone Star and Jeff #111 are correct in their discussion of Air Force small arms.

SPs used the M1911A1 as a duty handgun until the early 60s. NCOs at some bases had revolvers since the late 1950s. They were then issued the S&W 15 until that was replaced by the M9. (My ANG SP unit didn't get M9s until August of 1990 and I think cargo couriers and others on base were still carrying the Model 15 for a few years after that.) A lot of ARNG units in Wisconsin didn't get the M9 until 1995 or so.

(I believe that the Security Police working SAC HQ at Offut AFB were the first ones to wear the blue beret and to also carry the M15 revolver (with stag handles and in a cross draw holster, no less. If you ever find a copy of the old C.B. Colby book Strategic Air Command there's a couple of pictures of the palace guards in there)

In the OLD days the Air Force used the M1 and M2 carbines. I have a whole set of color transparencies for the overhead projector from about 1958 for introductory training on the M2 carbine and also on the M1911. (My unit was going to throw it out when they did an inventory prior to moving into a new building, but I rescued all that stuff)

The AF was the first service to buy the AR15, for use by Security Police units in the Strategic Air Command. Subsequently the special forces tried some out and then the Army adopted it in 1966 or so. The Air Force used the plain vanilla M16 (most were marked AR-15) until the A2 model came along in the 1980s. (Our SP squadron didn't get the M16A2 until 1995. All our guns were made by FN.). Many personnel like aircraft mechanics and support personnel still have plain M16s as mobility weapons, although I've heard that many get issued the A2 before going overseas.

I retired from the ANG in 2000. At that time, pilots got introductory training on the M9 at pilot school or OCS or someplace, and then didn't need to get trained again until about to deploy to a war zone or someplace like Korea or Germany. The last half of my ANG career I was a Combat Arms Training Instructor. Every year a few pilots elected to take voluntary training with the M9 (we were ALWAYS short of 9mm ammo, so it kind of depended on our ammo supply) and those were usually guys who were recreational shooters and they were good students and some of them were very fine marksmen.

In the summer of 1999, as my career was winding down, I had the misfortune to be assigned to train ALL the pilots from the fighter squadron, including a whole bunch who clearly didn't want to be there. They were the most disrespectful and disorderly group I have ever had to train. I've trained cops since 1983 and taught for 10 years in the local regional police Academy and I never ran into a group EVER that was so difficult to train.

My unit was co-located with the local regional airport. When we got F16s our priority went up and the military SPs (and the civilian SPs who actually guarded the base 24/7 for real) were authorized long guns for every day use. We got a waiver to get shotguns because of our location and so we got a bunch of ex-AF M870s from Dover AFB. The stocks were all dried out and cracked and the shell latches all needed to be replaced. They all got turned in shortly before I retired.

I'm not sure how widely the M11 (Sig 228) has been issued in the military, other than to OSI/CID/NIS and to some Army Helicopter pilots.

I read lots of posts in the online forums claiming that one person or another got to use personnally owned sidearms in Iraq or Afghanistan, but it is generally against military regulations, no matter what your CO or NCOIC might tell you. (there was a long discussion of this over on tacticalforums.com late last year)

[ISP2605]

"The Air Force used the plain vanilla M16 (most were marked AR-15) until the A2 model came along in the 1980s."

Yup. I retired in 2000. Still had some range weapons that were marked AR-15. One year, when I was team captain for the combat rifle team, I took a 5 digit H&R AR-15 slick side to Camp Robinson, Arkansas for regional matches. It was a great shooter. The young Army NCO who was checking us in and inspecting weapons told me I could shouldn't "civilian rifles" during competition. I explained that it was a rack weapon, USGI, from the base. He argued that the military never had AR-15s nor H&Rs and that I wasn't fooling him any. He wasn't going to let the rifle in. I flagged over a CWO-4 who I'd shot with before and explained the situation. He educated the young NCO about the history of the M-16 and AR-15s. That old H&R was older than the Army NCO. Probably shot better than he did too.


"In the summer of 1999, as my career was winding down, I had the misfortune to be assigned to train ALL the pilots from the fighter squadron, including a whole bunch who clearly didn't want to be there. They were the most disrespectful and disorderly group I have ever had to train."

That must be something with all pilots. In the mid-90s we were getting ready to do an overseas deployment with an ORI. I got a call from my CATM guys who were at the range with the pilots. The CATM NCO was madder than a wet hen. The pilots were screwing around, talking during safety brief, messing around on the line. He stopped qualifying and called me. I told him to stand by. I ran over to the Wing King's office and told him the problems, I was making sure no one would be hurt, and that my guys would not be running the range if there were safety problems, ergo, his pilots wouldn't be qualified. He jumped in the truck with me and we drove out to the range. After some discussion we never had a more orderly run range. Them boys knew when the Wing King took the time to come to the range that their butts were in the wind. That Wing King would do that kind of stuff for me. I worked for others who would have blown it all off.

[juliet charley]

I was active duty until 1996, and got to see the SAMTU (later CATM) folks fairly often (though I had no luck retraining no matter how hard I tried). When I came in, we carried S&W M15s and old M16s. My first permanent assignment was Dover, and I'd probably lugged one of those 870s around a C5 or two. The last time I had to qualify was in the early 90s, and it was still same tired old S&W M15s and old M16s. It was a mixed class with aircrew--they were trained on the S&W M15. We did deploy go to the SWA for round one--the Iraqis was treated to us landing behind them during the much publicized "end around."

[D.S. Brown]

Anyone know where I can find a can of "squelch." Sorry had to add that.

I was a grunt in the Army from 86-90 and I never worried about weapons obviously. Never been a pilot but I would imagine that being shot down over hostile territory, a good knife(s) and S.E.R.E. training would be much more valuable than a rinky dink handgun. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's a bad thing to have, but an M9 Berreta w/ 2 spare mags is still only 46 rounds in a war zone. I don't think your priority at that point is to engage bad guys. Now if you can parlay that handgun into say an AR-15/M-16, an AK, or an HK type of rifle with several spare mags and a means to carry them then your talking. Again it would appear that escape and evasion are your priorities. Going around trying to engage hostiles that outnumber you and outgun you may be counter productive to your future survival. I think it is only in the movies that if you were shot down that command might issue you orders to "blow up a bridge" or link up with a "resistance group." Things must be pretty rough for your side if you happen to be the best asset available to them on the ground to conduct these missions.

BTW I met Scott O'Grady a few weeks ago at the gun range that I work at in Dallas. Very nice guy. He told me that when he was "on the ground" in Bosnia that he wasn't "linking up" with anyone. He felt that none of the players in that game would have given one iota for his life save as some bargaining chip. As far as he was concerned there was no friends only foes, until that detachment of Marines extracted him. Otherwise he was hiding and running.

Best,

Dave

[Jeff #111]

In addition to my dad being an SP during the sixties my grandfather was a bomber pilot during WW2(I'm not making this up). He flew B-17's out of Mass on anti-sub patrol from 41(we were getting involved before Pearl Harbor) until early 44 and then he and many other pilots were trained on the B-29. He then flew in the bombing campaign against the Japanese home islands in 1945. He was issued a S&W M&P w/5" barrel when he flew the B-17's. After he went to the Pacific the commanding general (Curtis LeMay?) had the pilots turn in their handguns - for reasons that nobody could figure out. I've done some research on this , but I can only find conflicting information. I have photos of the pilots carrying 45's, but I also have found other writing saying that LeMay did do that. Whatever the situation my grandfather was a resourceful man and got his hands on a 1911 and a couple boxes of 45acp.

He told me once that the handgun was looked at strictly for self-defense. There was no intention of engaging the enemy except as a last ditch measure. He said that he and his crew pretty much understood that if they were shot down their chances of surviving weren't very good. The handgun just made him feel a little better. If nothing else it was a mental booster. Of course when he was flying sub patrol over the Atlantic the handgun wasn't very useful. It usually stayed in his flight bag.

[Jeff22]

Up until about 1998 we still had a few AR-15s on base that has the open prong flash suppressor and the older-style charging handle with the smaller "ears".

I've never seen an H&R M16, nor one made by Hydramatic Division of GM. One of my good friends was a small arms repairman in the Army in Germany 1974-1977 and when he went through Army Basic Training all the guns were shot out relics made by Hydramatic. He didn't see an M16 made by Colt until he got to Europe.

Between my tours in the ANG I was an MP in the ARNG from April of '87 until September of '90. We had a couple of .45s in our inventory which were marked "Model of 1911" and then later upgraded to the A1 standard at some subsequent rebuild. If I remember my history correctly, that means the frames of those guns were made sometime prior to 1927 or so . . .

[k_dawg]

I asked my uncle-in-law, who was a B-52 commander/pilot in SAC and flew in operation "Chrome Dome".

He said they were issued the standard S&W .38special. However, there was not much emphasis placed on its use, by the military or the men. They figured that if they had to go to war, they were not coming back.

[Lone Star]

I watched, "The Bridges At Toko-Ri" again this week, and William Holden's Navy pilot told his wingman just before he crash landed that he indeed had a gun (S&W Victory Model), not that he'd ever fired it. In the book, by James Michener, this pilot had fired just six shots in training! Absurd!

If you read or saw, "Bat 21", you know that the USAF officer involved used his .45 to kill a Viet who attacked him with a knife as he stole food at the Viet's house. Chuck Yeager bailed out of a stricken Mustang over enemy territory in France, and found his way back to England via Spain. He mentioned that his .45 was a comfort to have, although I don't think he used it. But he hunts (still, I think!) and knew guns. If the Jerries had found him, I bet he would have done a number on them like Sgt. York did with his pistol in a previous war!

It has been my impression that USAF people tend to think of themselves as high tech executives who shouldn't have to resort to killing with guns or knives. That's for soldiers...I think it's a stupid attitude that can get them killed or captured. A pistol in the right hands, when really needed, can be priceless.

I know of one pilot in the 1990 Iraq war who just let a villager armed with an AK-47 walk right up and capture him, when he realized the the A-10's trying to reach him with covering fire couldn't do it in time. I think I'd have gone prone with my M-9 and shot that Arab further out than he'd dream that a man could use a handgun effectively. Keep in mind that an SP at Fairchild AFB, Washington killed a nut case who had an AK-47 and was shooting at people on base. This bicycle cop killed the malefactor with one 9mm round at about 80-85 yards.

The average Iraqi can't shoot for sour grapes, anyway, especially if he had the AK set on full auto. I bet a good shot could have decked him, and the A-10's were due in literally a few minutes. Their 30mm guns would have made a mess of any additional villagers who came after the pilot, and a helicopter was also inbound.


Because of the PC blather in schools these days and their high tech elitist mindset, the average pilot can't see himself sticking an enemy sentry with a knife, or even using a 9mm on the ground. My view is that an airman's job is to kill the enemy. If he can no longer do it with missiles or cannon, pistol and knife may have to suffice. This is NOT to suggest that the pilot shouldn't try to evade without letting his presence be known. That is vital. But if he HAS to kill or be captured or slain, I think he ought to have that ability and combative attitude.

Some of these guys need to read about that El Salvadoran soldier who, a few months ago, was out of ammo and his friends were dead. He charged Iraqi insurgents with his lockblade folding knife, killing and wounding several. The Iraqis broke and ran under the fury of his attack, and he survived to become a national and Coalition Forces hero.

Lone Star

[SCCop]

Didn't realize there were so many vets here. Well Hooyah guys from a former air commando of the 16th Special Operations Wing.

[Lone Star]

SCCop-

Did you Special Ops types carry the Beretta 9mm, or was there any choice?

Lone Star

[LAK]

Jeff22,

I think it was General Sadler that was the driving force behind the berets for Security Police.

And incidently, for those who were Air, Security Police or Security Forces here are a few links including the museum site at Lackland;

http://www.afspaonline.org/phome.php

http://afsf.lackland.af.mil/Heritage...age_museum.htm

http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!FC!CB!1103B45BEEFD/Hahn-50thAP-K9/AirPoliceHistory/

For some reason the last one has to be pasted in your browser address window to work.