Courts force Puerto Rico into shall-issue!

Jim March · May 10, 2011, 07:00 PM

http://volokh.com/2011/05/10/puerto-...public-places/

Nobody saw THAT coming! Pay attention to Volokh's site, they're madly scrambling for the decision and a translation from Spanish.

The decision was more or less pure Heller/McDonald with a twist as to whether or not territories are incorporated.

wally626 · May 10, 2011, 07:33 PM

Interesting case, the defendant was a MD and General in the National Guard and could still could not qualify for a carry permit in PR.

secret_agent_man · May 10, 2011, 08:34 PM

First with Heller, it becomes legal to have a gun in your home. A home in the federal enclave of Washington D.C. Then with McDonald you have that same right, but in a state. It's a wonder the Supreme Court hasn't been asked to render a separate decision for each of the fifty states. Now the question is raised concerning the right in a US territory.

What's next, you can have a gun in your right hand, but not in your left until SCOTUS rules on it?

This is like trying to determine which way it's legal to urinate. Against the wind, or with the wind. Either way, you still have the fundamental underlying right to go, long as you don't rain of somebody else's parade.

Some local prosecutor in one of the Western states who saw the light and said to the effect after Heller went down, "Hey, you know what, we just aren't going to prosecute these gun possession cases anymore."

Johannes_Paulsen · May 10, 2011, 09:18 PM

Good find - thanks for the link!

@Secret Agent Man: You think the change is going too slowly? Consider where we were two short years ago....

PanBaccha · May 11, 2011, 03:24 PM

On the subject of Puerto Rico. While a commonwealth of the United States it still does not recognize reciprocity with other states, namely Florida. I can attest to the fact that Puerto Rico is indeed becoming quite dangerous as of late due to the prevalence of drugs, unemployment, and, of course, the ever-growing thug-wanna-be's who target lone citizens/tourists and couples.

markj · May 11, 2011, 04:01 PM

My cousin Tim told me thats the place to retire, no taxes and all the benifits of living in America. A friend of his moved there to retire, they own metropolitan cars and belong to the car club for that car. Tim went there two years ago and told me it was a nice place. Maybe it is different now?

Will PR have to become a true state before it can recip with say fla? They vote on it and vote it down every time.

May 10, 2011, 07:00 PM	#1
Jim March Senior Member Join Date: February 14, 1999 Location: Pittsburg, CA, USA Posts: 7,417	Courts force Puerto Rico into shall-issue! http://volokh.com/2011/05/10/puerto-...public-places/ Nobody saw THAT coming! Pay attention to Volokh's site, they're madly scrambling for the decision and a translation from Spanish. The decision was more or less pure Heller/McDonald with a twist as to whether or not territories are incorporated. __________________ Jim March

May 10, 2011, 07:33 PM	#2
wally626 Senior Member Join Date: July 31, 2009 Posts: 642	Interesting case, the defendant was a MD and General in the National Guard and could still could not qualify for a carry permit in PR.

May 10, 2011, 08:34 PM	#3
secret_agent_man Junior member Join Date: March 25, 2011 Posts: 463	First with Heller, it becomes legal to have a gun in your home. A home in the federal enclave of Washington D.C. Then with McDonald you have that same right, but in a state. It's a wonder the Supreme Court hasn't been asked to render a separate decision for each of the fifty states. Now the question is raised concerning the right in a US territory. What's next, you can have a gun in your right hand, but not in your left until SCOTUS rules on it? This is like trying to determine which way it's legal to urinate. Against the wind, or with the wind. Either way, you still have the fundamental underlying right to go, long as you don't rain of somebody else's parade. Some local prosecutor in one of the Western states who saw the light and said to the effect after Heller went down, "Hey, you know what, we just aren't going to prosecute these gun possession cases anymore."

May 10, 2011, 09:18 PM	#4
Johannes_Paulsen Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 297	Good find - thanks for the link! @Secret Agent Man: You think the change is going too slowly? Consider where we were two short years ago....

May 11, 2011, 03:24 PM	#5
PanBaccha Member Join Date: April 28, 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 48	On the subject of Puerto Rico. While a commonwealth of the United States it still does not recognize reciprocity with other states, namely Florida. I can attest to the fact that Puerto Rico is indeed becoming quite dangerous as of late due to the prevalence of drugs, unemployment, and, of course, the ever-growing thug-wanna-be's who target lone citizens/tourists and couples.

May 11, 2011, 04:01 PM	#6
markj Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2005 Location: Crescent Iowa Posts: 2,971	My cousin Tim told me thats the place to retire, no taxes and all the benifits of living in America. A friend of his moved there to retire, they own metropolitan cars and belong to the car club for that car. Tim went there two years ago and told me it was a nice place. Maybe it is different now? Will PR have to become a true state before it can recip with say fla? They vote on it and vote it down every time.