XD45 Tactical TS vs Glock 21

Nathan · December 20, 2014, 05:13 PM

So, I now have both. They are both big guns!

I bought the Glock on a whim, but I liked it so much I bought an IDPA rig for it and shot it there. Great gun. Then I had a few draw off the table stages and realized that it is just too big for my hand. Accuracy was always good. Hit-ability, my ability to point and shoot quickly, was excellent. Still, overtime, I realized I wasn't gripping it well enough. Also, no lead hurts too.

I had an XD40 that I shoot good, but if is going to be my IDPA and home defense gun, I want a 45. 45 is my bread and butter of handloading. So, I had to go 45.

I selected the XD45 tactical with TS over the XDM, STI and Glock 21 gen 4. I'll post some pics and shooting review after I get it cleaned up.

So if you made a similar choice, what did you get and why?

My why's are:
13 r&d mags
5" barrel
Good XD trigger action
1911 style thumb safety
Easy field strip
Availability of lightweight trigger mod
Good feel in hand
Availability of good sights
Better experience with XD platform over Glock

filthy phil · December 20, 2014, 06:42 PM

The gen4 glocks Slimmer grip works for me.
Imho perfect, especially with a 30s as backup, share mags

im a .45 nut as well

Uncle Malice · December 20, 2014, 07:37 PM

Love my Gen4 G21. I'm waiting for the Gen4 G30S as well.

Hopefully we'll see it at SHOT. That's what a little birdie told me.

Nathan · December 20, 2014, 07:44 PM

Glad you guys like your Glock 45's. . .Don't you find then way too wide for CCW? I never could get over my Gen 3 G21's width. . .

tahunua001 · December 20, 2014, 07:54 PM

I have the XD45 tactical and I've owned the XDM45 full size. I prefer the XDM to the XD. the factory trigger is slightly better and I tend to shoot XDMs better than XDs.

Uncle Malice · December 20, 2014, 07:59 PM

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Glad you guys like your Glock 45's. . .Don't you find then way too wide for CCW? I never could get over my Gen 3 G21's width. . .

Nope. I carry my G21 frequently. Everyone says they are too wide, but the slide is the same width as the M&P, which I also carry regularly. I also carry Sig P226 or HK USP.

I generally prefer to carry a full size gun. I know many people do not and I can certainly understand that.

jaytothekizzay · December 20, 2014, 08:16 PM

Ive been carrying my GEN 3 G23 for years... very nice carry gun

Nathan · December 20, 2014, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jaytothekizzay

Ive been carrying my GEN 3 G23 for years... very nice carry gun

....and this compares the XD45 to the G21 how?

Uncle Malice · December 20, 2014, 10:44 PM

lol, it doesn't, really.

10mm4ever · December 21, 2014, 12:08 AM

When it comes to poly frame, striker fired 45acp's, the XD is still my favorite. I have both the service and tactical and easily prefer either over the G21, regardless of 'generation'. I just hit better and more instinctively with the XD's and I'm sure it's due in part to the big difference in ergonomics. I'm admittedly not the biggest fan of poly frame/striker fired autos but the XD really works for me better than the others I've tried. The XDM is really no more than the XD with a facelift and more aggressively marketed due to the higher mark up, IMO.

Kosmo K · December 22, 2014, 09:33 AM

Could you pull out the barrels, slide a round in both and compare chamber support ? Let us know if you have time. Thanks

INMY01TA · December 24, 2014, 10:15 PM

I like Glocks but doubt one could take the place of my XD45 service.

10mm4ever · December 25, 2014, 02:35 PM

Couldnt agree more....

chris in va · December 25, 2014, 03:59 PM

I started with a Sig 220, then a G21SF. If I had to do it over it would be an M&P 45 with the Apex kit.

I currently have a CZ 97b with 'upgrades' and love it but it isn't as reliable as I'd like.

Nathan · January 25, 2015, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kosmo K

Could you pull out the barrels, slide a round in both and compare chamber support ? Let us know if you have time. Thanks

Here you go. . . .New Thread

rebs · January 26, 2015, 08:24 AM

I have both a G21 and a G30s and love them both. I carry the G21 as often as I do the G30s, no problem for me. I have complete confidence in both of them.

Ak40Reverend · January 26, 2015, 04:01 PM

The question, it seems, is rather self evident to be subjective. When I first started getting into guns I was a Glock fanboy (out of ignorance.) However, now as a gun ENTHUSIAST I still have favorable preferences towards glocks. As I began to broaden my perspective on ALL firearms as opposed to just glocks I realized the "why" wasn't important. More over, the "how" became important. How am I drawing with this firearm? How am I instinctively shooting with this firearm? How are my shot placements and follow ups landing? To me everything else, now, is just noise. Reliability in many of the firearm manufactures hasn't been an issue for the past 10 years or so. The aftermarket parts are plentiful on most manufactures and things seem to be getting slim everywhere.

When I had my Gen3 21 I wanted to get a Gen4 but wanted to make an informed decision so I began looking at the xd's and m&ps. After giving a good amount of range time to borrowed xd's and m&ps I always gravitated back to the glock. I knew right off that bat that the palm swell on the M&P was going to be aggravating and it only held 10 rounds. I sucked it up and gave it it's due and I performed well with it. The XD was also a performer and I noticed no difference between the regular xd and the over marketed XDM. The only complaints I had was the grip on the frame and the 1911 style grip safety but that had no say over the decision.

After all was said and done the "why" was because I just shot better with it. The grip angle had a lot to do with it. Many manufactures are getting a little too into 1911 angles. Which is fine cause I can shoot a 1911 great in bullseye but not so in draw. My instinctive shooting doesn't agree with it.

Gen4 Glock 21 w/ ZEV trigger, springs, connector. Currently running XS standard dot sights but after firing a G21 with Vicker's sights I will be changing those soon.

December 20, 2014, 05:13 PM	#1
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,828	XD45 Tactical TS vs Glock 21 So, I now have both. They are both big guns! I bought the Glock on a whim, but I liked it so much I bought an IDPA rig for it and shot it there. Great gun. Then I had a few draw off the table stages and realized that it is just too big for my hand. Accuracy was always good. Hit-ability, my ability to point and shoot quickly, was excellent. Still, overtime, I realized I wasn't gripping it well enough. Also, no lead hurts too. I had an XD40 that I shoot good, but if is going to be my IDPA and home defense gun, I want a 45. 45 is my bread and butter of handloading. So, I had to go 45. I selected the XD45 tactical with TS over the XDM, STI and Glock 21 gen 4. I'll post some pics and shooting review after I get it cleaned up. So if you made a similar choice, what did you get and why? My why's are: 13 r&d mags 5" barrel Good XD trigger action 1911 style thumb safety Easy field strip Availability of lightweight trigger mod Good feel in hand Availability of good sights Better experience with XD platform over Glock

December 20, 2014, 06:42 PM	#2
filthy phil Senior Member Join Date: November 22, 2013 Location: Tomball Tejas Posts: 106	The gen4 glocks Slimmer grip works for me. Imho perfect, especially with a 30s as backup, share mags im a .45 nut as well __________________ glocks gen4 :21, gen 3 17tb, 19, 30s (×2) , sig tacpac 1911, colt 6920(x2), cia underfolder ak, npap underfolder

December 20, 2014, 07:37 PM	#3
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	Love my Gen4 G21. I'm waiting for the Gen4 G30S as well. Hopefully we'll see it at SHOT. That's what a little birdie told me. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

December 20, 2014, 07:54 PM	#5
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	I have the XD45 tactical and I've owned the XDM45 full size. I prefer the XDM to the XD. the factory trigger is slightly better and I tend to shoot XDMs better than XDs. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

December 20, 2014, 10:44 PM	#9
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	lol, it doesn't, really. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

December 20, 2014, 07:44 PM	#4
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,828	Glad you guys like your Glock 45's. . .Don't you find then way too wide for CCW? I never could get over my Gen 3 G21's width. . .

December 20, 2014, 08:16 PM	#7
jaytothekizzay Senior Member Join Date: February 4, 2008 Location: st. louis Posts: 450	Ive been carrying my GEN 3 G23 for years... very nice carry gun

December 21, 2014, 12:08 AM	#10
10mm4ever Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2005 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 808	When it comes to poly frame, striker fired 45acp's, the XD is still my favorite. I have both the service and tactical and easily prefer either over the G21, regardless of 'generation'. I just hit better and more instinctively with the XD's and I'm sure it's due in part to the big difference in ergonomics. I'm admittedly not the biggest fan of poly frame/striker fired autos but the XD really works for me better than the others I've tried. The XDM is really no more than the XD with a facelift and more aggressively marketed due to the higher mark up, IMO. Last edited by 10mm4ever; December 21, 2014 at 12:13 AM.

December 22, 2014, 09:33 AM	#11
Kosmo K Member Join Date: December 16, 2014 Posts: 64	Could you pull out the barrels, slide a round in both and compare chamber support ? Let us know if you have time. Thanks

December 24, 2014, 10:15 PM	#12
INMY01TA Senior Member Join Date: November 30, 2008 Location: Marylandistan Posts: 262	I like Glocks but doubt one could take the place of my XD45 service.

December 25, 2014, 02:35 PM	#13
10mm4ever Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2005 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 808	Couldnt agree more....

December 25, 2014, 03:59 PM	#14
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	I started with a Sig 220, then a G21SF. If I had to do it over it would be an M&P 45 with the Apex kit. I currently have a CZ 97b with 'upgrades' and love it but it isn't as reliable as I'd like.

January 26, 2015, 08:24 AM	#16
rebs Senior Member Join Date: January 10, 2012 Posts: 3,881	I have both a G21 and a G30s and love them both. I carry the G21 as often as I do the G30s, no problem for me. I have complete confidence in both of them.

January 26, 2015, 04:01 PM	#17
Ak40Reverend Junior Member Join Date: January 26, 2015 Posts: 8	The question, it seems, is rather self evident to be subjective. When I first started getting into guns I was a Glock fanboy (out of ignorance.) However, now as a gun ENTHUSIAST I still have favorable preferences towards glocks. As I began to broaden my perspective on ALL firearms as opposed to just glocks I realized the "why" wasn't important. More over, the "how" became important. How am I drawing with this firearm? How am I instinctively shooting with this firearm? How are my shot placements and follow ups landing? To me everything else, now, is just noise. Reliability in many of the firearm manufactures hasn't been an issue for the past 10 years or so. The aftermarket parts are plentiful on most manufactures and things seem to be getting slim everywhere. When I had my Gen3 21 I wanted to get a Gen4 but wanted to make an informed decision so I began looking at the xd's and m&ps. After giving a good amount of range time to borrowed xd's and m&ps I always gravitated back to the glock. I knew right off that bat that the palm swell on the M&P was going to be aggravating and it only held 10 rounds. I sucked it up and gave it it's due and I performed well with it. The XD was also a performer and I noticed no difference between the regular xd and the over marketed XDM. The only complaints I had was the grip on the frame and the 1911 style grip safety but that had no say over the decision. After all was said and done the "why" was because I just shot better with it. The grip angle had a lot to do with it. Many manufactures are getting a little too into 1911 angles. Which is fine cause I can shoot a 1911 great in bullseye but not so in draw. My instinctive shooting doesn't agree with it. Gen4 Glock 21 w/ ZEV trigger, springs, connector. Currently running XS standard dot sights but after firing a G21 with Vicker's sights I will be changing those soon.