Paranoid About Carrying - Page 3

N.H. Yankee · May 12, 2010, 05:44 AM

Die your hair purple, no one will be looking low enough to spot your weapon.

I see as it like when you first get acne, OMG its as big as a brick and the world is staring syndrome and I think most everyone goes through a comfort curve. Many people carry cell phone's and who knows what on their belt or under shirts today. I wouldn't sweat it, your within your legal rights.

BlueTrain · May 12, 2010, 08:29 AM

Someone here mentions that 99% of people, conservatively speaking, would never notice anything. It is probably also true that 99% of people, the same 99%, are no danger to you or anyone else, unless perhaps they are driving a car. The problem is the other one percent. Conceivably the other one percent or less may be up to no good, everyone here assumes, I assume. Likewise, those same folks might be a little better than average at detecting a concealed firearm. I know I've certainly spotted concealed carriers, though I kind of think that some concealed carriers tend to dress a certain way and accessorize themselves in a certain way and, believe it or not, even have certain behavior patters that gives the game away, though I'm certain that few here ever do things like I'm referring to. I imagine that some people could be "made" just by their facial expression.

Be that as it may, I think it is reasonable to give a lot of thought to the concept of "concealed," just because to those for whom it makes a difference, they are in fact, looking. But I wouldn't dye my hair.

Glock_19 · May 12, 2010, 11:41 AM

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Also, for the poster who mentioned the 3 lb Glock trigger...the 3.5 lb connectors are for TARGET and COMPETITION only. Why? Because to obtain the true 3.5 lb pull, you have to change out the striker spring and return spring, too--and that will leave the striker impact too light to reliably light off primers.

I recommend putting the factory parts back in, (5.5 lb) and shooting it. A LOT. This will smooth out the trigger.

Wish I could put them back in, but I bought the gun with the 3lb trigger. In about 1500 rounds through it it's never had a weak primer strike or even any failure at all except the slide failed to lock back at the end of 2 mags. I'm thinking about getting a Ruger LCP for carry anyways. I hear they have a pretty hard trigger pull. I'm just not sure about .380

Straightshooter629 · May 12, 2010, 01:25 PM

Carrying concealed is more than an adjustment, it's a change in lifestyle. The first trick is to find the right weapon and a good holster, and a proper belt. Find a combonation that works for YOU. In the words of Clint Smith, "carrying a gun is not comfortable...carrying a gun is comforting". Once you have the proper gear, it's a matter of making small adjustments in your wardrobe to make concealment easier. Before long, it'll be just like your cell phone...you wont feel dressed without it. I have varied methods for carrying that cahnge depending on the occasion and/or my mode of dress. Don't hesitate to experiment with different things until you find the right package.

Nnobby45 · May 12, 2010, 10:41 PM

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Many peeps that have a CCL, don't need it, so carrying seems overkill..........

I don't understand the term "don't need it". Perhaps you can elaborate.

Seems to me that a high % of all citizens who need a gun never needed it before. Some will never need it. Some will need it more than once.

If being armed for SD is overkill, what's just right? Being unarmed?

Cornhusker77 · May 12, 2010, 11:46 PM

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I understand that I am a law abiding citizen and understand that it is a special privilege to be carrying! And I plan to take great responsibility when carrying!

Nope, not a special privilege, but a Constitutional right.
Unfortunately, this country has gotten so far from the Constitution, we have to have our rights dribbled out to us a little at a time.
As far as being nervous about carrying, I completely understand.
I got my permit a couple years ago, and carried a Taurus PT111 in a Kholster IWB.
That thing felt like it had an 8 inch barrel, and I was sure everybody could tell I was packing.
I finally figured out nobody was looking, and nobody really cared as long as it was covered, they can tell themselves it's a cell phone or an insulin pump or a dribble bag.
Now I can carry my Glock 32 in a paddle holster with a t-shirt covering, and I almost forget it's there.

It gets easier, and the thing to remember is that you are legal, it's your right, and it's nobody else's business what's in your pants.
Oh, and I always always always carry one in the pipe, I may not have both hands available to rack the slide.

sks · May 13, 2010, 12:44 AM

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it's your right, and it's nobody else's business what's in your pants.

ha! True! Good thing I wasn't drinking coffee or else it would be on my screen now!

Eagleks · May 14, 2010, 12:14 AM

OP : what you are experiencing is normal. It WILL pass as your confidence level goes up. Does anyone know what's in your wallet, why not ? Because they never see it ? They won't notice your gun either if you wear a good concealment shirt, etc with it.... if your shirt isn't doing it , get one that does.

You are the only one who knows. Your self-conscious about it right now, and if you continue to carry.... you will soon feel naked without it. Don't give yourself away by tapping it, adjusting it, etc. all of the time.

I've been called out for carrying a gun several times.... when I wasn't. LOL.... when they first passed conceal carry, groups of folks were trying to intentionally id people and then make a big scene out of it. Many were embarrassed..... that they ID'd my CELL PHONE under my shirt.... and I would always ask them "what kind of idiot are you ? ".

If someone does ask you what the bulge is, tell them it's your colonoscopy bag. They won't want to know anything more about it.

johnwilliamson062 · May 14, 2010, 10:55 AM

When i first got my permit I carried unloaded while I worked out all the details of how to manage things. Maybe 3-4 days of carry. I was still in college so I wasn't carrying much at all since i was on campus most of the time and carrying unloaded didn't bother me since I normally didn't carry at all.
I now do the same any time I get a new holster or such.
I have not dropped a gun yet or anything like that, but I figure the first few days with a new holster/gun it is a lot more likely I will do so and better just to carry unloaded while i get comfortable with the change.

Head-Space · May 14, 2010, 06:42 PM

I'm not going to wade through the posts.

What state are you in? Don't tell me. I'm just curious as to what the laws are. The state I'm in allows open carry most places (some towns have an ordinance), and "printing" is not an issue. Law in this state says that "openly carried on the belt" is not considered "concealed." What it comes down to is if your gun is on the belt, IWB and the grip is visible it's not considered "concealed" -- and legally open carried. If it's covered up, it's considered "concealed" for purposes of CCW. "Printing" is not an issue.

Many businesses wish you wouldn't pack on their premises. Some post signs. The rationale behind CCW is that it's nobody's business if you're carrying. A violation of the business' policy is a "civil contempt" charge -- class C misdemeanor. There's a good chance that such charges won't stick if you're not being a jerk. Not being a jerk goes a long way in CCW.

As noted elsewhere, there's numerous options to concealed carry. I carry a laptop daypack. Gun's in the outer pocket. The down-side on that sort of carry is that the pack sits at the table while I'm in the rest room. Yeah, I get someone I trust to keep an eye on things. The gun is NOT "unattended."

TimNelson · May 14, 2010, 10:08 PM

Since I started carrying I started looking for other people who carry. Its amazing how often I now see people around me who appear to be carrying. I may have noticed two or three times in my life time before I started looking for it and once I started looking for it I see them on a regular basis. I think this is probably true of most people, they don't notice them unless they are looking for them.

May 14, 2010, 10:55 AM	#59
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,994	When i first got my permit I carried unloaded while I worked out all the details of how to manage things. Maybe 3-4 days of carry. I was still in college so I wasn't carrying much at all since i was on campus most of the time and carrying unloaded didn't bother me since I normally didn't carry at all. I now do the same any time I get a new holster or such. I have not dropped a gun yet or anything like that, but I figure the first few days with a new holster/gun it is a lot more likely I will do so and better just to carry unloaded while i get comfortable with the change. Last edited by johnwilliamson062; May 14, 2010 at 11:16 AM.

May 12, 2010, 05:44 AM	#51
N.H. Yankee Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2004 Location: Rural N.H. Posts: 1,586	Die your hair purple, no one will be looking low enough to spot your weapon. I see as it like when you first get acne, OMG its as big as a brick and the world is staring syndrome and I think most everyone goes through a comfort curve. Many people carry cell phone's and who knows what on their belt or under shirts today. I wouldn't sweat it, your within your legal rights.

May 12, 2010, 08:29 AM	#52
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	Someone here mentions that 99% of people, conservatively speaking, would never notice anything. It is probably also true that 99% of people, the same 99%, are no danger to you or anyone else, unless perhaps they are driving a car. The problem is the other one percent. Conceivably the other one percent or less may be up to no good, everyone here assumes, I assume. Likewise, those same folks might be a little better than average at detecting a concealed firearm. I know I've certainly spotted concealed carriers, though I kind of think that some concealed carriers tend to dress a certain way and accessorize themselves in a certain way and, believe it or not, even have certain behavior patters that gives the game away, though I'm certain that few here ever do things like I'm referring to. I imagine that some people could be "made" just by their facial expression. Be that as it may, I think it is reasonable to give a lot of thought to the concept of "concealed," just because to those for whom it makes a difference, they are in fact, looking. But I wouldn't dye my hair.

May 12, 2010, 01:25 PM	#54
Straightshooter629 Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 475	Carrying concealed is more than an adjustment, it's a change in lifestyle. The first trick is to find the right weapon and a good holster, and a proper belt. Find a combonation that works for YOU. In the words of Clint Smith, "carrying a gun is not comfortable...carrying a gun is comforting". Once you have the proper gear, it's a matter of making small adjustments in your wardrobe to make concealment easier. Before long, it'll be just like your cell phone...you wont feel dressed without it. I have varied methods for carrying that cahnge depending on the occasion and/or my mode of dress. Don't hesitate to experiment with different things until you find the right package.

May 14, 2010, 12:14 AM	#58
Eagleks Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 575	OP : what you are experiencing is normal. It WILL pass as your confidence level goes up. Does anyone know what's in your wallet, why not ? Because they never see it ? They won't notice your gun either if you wear a good concealment shirt, etc with it.... if your shirt isn't doing it , get one that does. You are the only one who knows. Your self-conscious about it right now, and if you continue to carry.... you will soon feel naked without it. Don't give yourself away by tapping it, adjusting it, etc. all of the time. I've been called out for carrying a gun several times.... when I wasn't. LOL.... when they first passed conceal carry, groups of folks were trying to intentionally id people and then make a big scene out of it. Many were embarrassed..... that they ID'd my CELL PHONE under my shirt.... and I would always ask them "what kind of idiot are you ? ". If someone does ask you what the bulge is, tell them it's your colonoscopy bag. They won't want to know anything more about it.

May 14, 2010, 06:42 PM	#60
Head-Space Junior member Join Date: May 14, 2010 Posts: 187	I'm not going to wade through the posts. What state are you in? Don't tell me. I'm just curious as to what the laws are. The state I'm in allows open carry most places (some towns have an ordinance), and "printing" is not an issue. Law in this state says that "openly carried on the belt" is not considered "concealed." What it comes down to is if your gun is on the belt, IWB and the grip is visible it's not considered "concealed" -- and legally open carried. If it's covered up, it's considered "concealed" for purposes of CCW. "Printing" is not an issue. Many businesses wish you wouldn't pack on their premises. Some post signs. The rationale behind CCW is that it's nobody's business if you're carrying. A violation of the business' policy is a "civil contempt" charge -- class C misdemeanor. There's a good chance that such charges won't stick if you're not being a jerk. Not being a jerk goes a long way in CCW. As noted elsewhere, there's numerous options to concealed carry. I carry a laptop daypack. Gun's in the outer pocket. The down-side on that sort of carry is that the pack sits at the table while I'm in the rest room. Yeah, I get someone I trust to keep an eye on things. The gun is NOT "unattended."

May 14, 2010, 10:08 PM	#61
TimNelson Senior Member Join Date: December 8, 2008 Posts: 304	Since I started carrying I started looking for other people who carry. Its amazing how often I now see people around me who appear to be carrying. I may have noticed two or three times in my life time before I started looking for it and once I started looking for it I see them on a regular basis. I think this is probably true of most people, they don't notice them unless they are looking for them.