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Old May 23, 2001, 03:05 PM   #1
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How do you pronounce Steyr? I've always pronounced it like the word "tire" except with the "st" sound. How do you pronounce Koch as in Heckler and Koch? I've seen that it's supposed to be pronounced like "coke", but then I saw a video clip of German TV that sounded like "cock".
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Old May 23, 2001, 03:20 PM   #2
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Sti-er and I live in Jaw-Ga!
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Old May 23, 2001, 03:40 PM   #3
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Koch is pronounced sort of like 'cock' but more like the Scottish 'loch' where the 'ch' sound comes from the throat instead of being a hard sound like the 'ck' in cock.

Just as in America, you shouldn't necessarily believe that a foreigner speaking their native language is pronouncing it correctly. They can be just as wrong with their language as we are with ours all the time.
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Old May 23, 2001, 03:47 PM   #4
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Steyr is a town in Austria - "yr" isn't a combination usually used in German; but it is present in the name of the town.

The pronunciation you gave is the one most people use - if you start pronouncing it correctly they won't understand you (I tried for a while and gave up).

Correct pronunciation is:

Shteer, - the S is pronounced SH, and the yr is NOT a separate syllable; but you sort of roll onto the r over enough time that it sounds part way towards a new syllable.




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Old May 23, 2001, 03:48 PM   #5
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I've always pronounced it St-eye-r, emphasis on the EYE, and yes Koch is pronounced more like Cock with a diminutive "sh" on the end of it.

That much I'm sure about, as Koch is the germanic equivalent to Cook.
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Old May 23, 2001, 04:27 PM   #6
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Tom B, could you clarify your pronunciation? Is Battler correct? Where do you live?
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Old May 23, 2001, 04:29 PM   #7
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I'm always disgusted at how the media butchers Chinese names.

Here something that most people do not know about Chinese surnames:

Lin/Lim/Lam
Chang/Cheng/Zhang
Chen/Chan
Chow/Chou
Kwan/Gwan
Wang/Wong
Huang/Hwang
Ming/Meng
Shen/Sen
Yo/Yu/You
Lee/Le/Li

etc.

These are all the same name with the same pronunciation in Mandarin! The different spellings come about from different dialects usually.

[Edited by Incursion on 05-26-2001 at 10:32 PM]
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Old May 23, 2001, 04:40 PM   #8
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HK is pronounced "Coke"
Steyr is pronounced like the rubber part around your car's wheel... "ssssssTire"
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Old May 23, 2001, 05:31 PM   #9
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PRONUNSEEASHUNNS

IT'S "STEER" AN' THET THER OTHER ONE IS HEKLER AND PEPSI.
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Old May 23, 2001, 06:21 PM   #10
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Incursion:

I got a German guy to pronounce it for me.

Think about it : Germans don't say "S" - they say "SH".

I also wasn't specific enough about the "ee" part. It sounded somewhat between "Shtayer" - and "SHteer" - again, only ONE syllable.



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Old May 23, 2001, 06:37 PM   #11
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Don't forget Sako is sock-o not say-ko. Seiko (say-ko) is a watch, Sako is a gun.
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Old May 23, 2001, 07:50 PM   #12
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I live in Jaw-Ga, Jaw-Ga; are you deaf man? Near 'Lanta Jaw-Ga! Its Heckler and Coke. But if you bring one in from abroad and pronounce it thusly at Customs: "I have a Heckler and Coke", you will be whisked away to the special Customs office for some intimate interrogation.
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Old May 23, 2001, 08:18 PM   #13
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Thats right... Shtire...
I forgot my Dad yelling at me in German when I was a kid...

Memories...
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Old May 23, 2001, 09:34 PM   #14
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it is a germanic word

there is one way to pronounce it



the correct way

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Old May 23, 2001, 10:31 PM   #15
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Interestingly, their pronunciation is identical "ex-pen-sive"
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Old May 24, 2001, 12:51 PM   #16
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Koch is pronounced like the english word "cough" except it ends in a hard "K" instead of a mutilated "F."
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Old May 24, 2001, 05:45 PM   #17
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Alles was vorgeschrieben ist, ist Scheisse... HA-HA

Depends on the dialect, mein Herr.

Sch= shhhh. Steyr= Sh-tay-uhr. The "uhr" on the end being a very soft "ER" sound. As there isn't a hard "ERRR" sound in German.
Can also be said as Sh-tye-uhr, depending on dialect. I'd go with the top first.

Koch, is "cook" in German as previously mentioned. And is somewhat like Coke, but "Coke" has two hard "K" sounds. Koch, only has one, the beginning 'K'. The rest is like a drawn out sound of "cH" -not like "ch" in Cheese, which is more of a 'cshhh' sound.

If this is confusing... you hear it one time you'll know what I mean. Now if you want to stump a German, get them to say "the"... 'th' can't be done!
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Old May 24, 2001, 06:22 PM   #18
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ARex hat rechts.....Shtay'-er

As for "the", whaddaya expect when it can be said 16 ways in German?
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Old May 25, 2001, 01:06 AM   #19
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argh, half of you say it's similar to "coke" and half say it's similar to "cock"

Different dialects pronounce it differently?
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Old May 25, 2001, 06:32 AM   #20
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Well I watched the film made by H&K (in english) about the USP and they pronounced it COKE.
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Old May 25, 2001, 11:31 AM   #21
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Koch, is "cook" in German as previously mentioned.
So what does "Heckler" mean in German?

BTW, I pronounce it "Aich Kay".
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Old May 25, 2001, 05:43 PM   #22
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Tom. Not to do you a disservice, my good man, but it WILL sound like COKE to the unpracticed ear. The pronounciation is just like the beginning of Coke but don't say the 'k' and let the air slide off your tongue like if you were saying C- HO, then harshen the 'H' sound so it sounds almost like the 'hhk' sound. There really isn't a word that I've found in English to describe it. Kind of like there isn't a 'TH' (the) sound in German to correctly pronounce the 'th' sound. Saying COKE will get you through any but the most stringent people though.

Matt. Unless Heckler is an older word that I don't know (which is entirely possible!) I believe it is a family name, and likely, the small village where some distant ancestor lived. You are right, however, in assuming that it means something, as most German surnames do.

Panzerführer. Grüss dich! Ich habe nicht gewüsst, dass du wirklich Deutsch spricht.

Tschüss!
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Old May 25, 2001, 11:21 PM   #23
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The closest word to Koch in an English dialect is the Scottish word 'loch'. (I could swear I heard that somewhere recently. ) As A.Rex says, it is not pronounced 'coke'.
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Old May 26, 2001, 10:36 AM   #24
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For Americans, I'd tell them to pronounce it like Schtayer, where the
'ayer' is pronounced like in 'Ayers' rock.

Ich bin doch erstaunt, dass es noch einige Amerikaner gibt, die der
deutschen Sprache wirklich mächtig sind. Aber unser Interesse an
Dingern, die beim Betätigen eines Hebelchens einen Knall erzeugen und
dann eine kleine Menge Metall (meist Blei) auf brauchbare
Geschwindigkeiten beschleunigen, eint uns. Oh ja, ich kann hier noch
die politisch inkorrekten Steyer-Produkte kaufen.

Jaja, es gibt Leute ausserhalb der Vereinigten Staaten, die boese
Sachen einkaufen dürfen.

Schützengruss aus der Schweiz, A.Rex!

Wir sollten auf TFL fast ein Board für deutschsprache User einrichten,
so wie es auf http://www.waffen-online.de für
englischsprachige User schon besteht.

OK, enough German, I'll let you try translate this so you can get an
idea.
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Old May 26, 2001, 10:48 AM   #25
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Actually, it is one of those trick pronounciations.
it is spelled STEYR, but pronounced
Uberpricedplastichandledvasteofmoneycalledascout".

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