Suggestions for light metal 9mm like Kahr K9

[HighValleyRanch]

Hi All,
Looking for a lightweight, thin stainless or stainless/alloy semi that is thin. Considering a Kahr K9 as I have a Kahr PM9 and had a .40 K40 before.

Any other options you can recommend? No poly/stainless combos need apply.
All metal.

The Kahr K9 weighs 24 oz unloaded so that is in the ballpark. Single stack, not double stack, and no 1911's as I don't like to carry cocked and locked AIWB.
No EMP's, lightweight commanders, etc.

Kinda narrow field, I know.

[Dfariswheel]

You'll be very happy with a Kahr K9, why look for anything else.
Most problems you read about Kahr's are the polymer models, you seldom hear complaints on the all-steel k9.

Most people consider it to be a Cadillac of the miniguns.
I have A LOT of rounds through mine and it's been a solid 100% reliable.
I can't even induce a stoppage even with some horrible Egyptian 1950's corrosive ammo.

I've been carrying it daily since 1997 and I see no reason to change something that's been perfect.

[Skans]

Just know that the Kahr K9 is double action only. It has a fairly long, but not bad, double-action trigger on every shot.

[wild cat mccane]

As metal holds no advantage in small, a gen 3 S&W is pretty much it. Or a huge Ruger. HK P7 if paying a lot. Per your criteria, that's it.

I thought the T, K, and MK had been discontinued?

[wild cat mccane]

Guess K is still around.

The CW9 goes for 200 new and has the same parts. Adds 500 dollars more in difference...boy howdy

[Polinese]

Sig P938

[Neal_G.]

Your asking about a niche within a niche, which is why the choices are almost zero, besides Kahr.

[wild cat mccane]

Yep. Only option is gen 3 SW, Ruger, or the Kahr.

If you are hyper focused on weight but not size, metal Canik, M&P, and the SF Walther Q or PDP.

Consider how heavy the Kahr is. 24oz and lowest round count. The above three arent conceal guns and large. Just shows that for conceal, the metal Kahrs have a niche to no place now...but the metak kahrs were never that popular to the PM and then CW poly Kahrs when Kahr was relevant.

[wild cat mccane]

Metal AXG P365. That's the answer

[HighValleyRanch]

Thanks for all the suggestions so far. Yes, I knew it was pretty limited niche, but maybe someone might come up with something I haven't thought of.

Yeah, I looked into a metal frame Sig p365 and the Sig P239.

Not looking for any big full-size metal options like the Canis, M&P, Walthers.
The PDP is a polymer, N'est pas?

My unloaded HK P2000SK weighs in at 24oz, so the metal Kahr doesn't seem that much heavier and option. With a Magguts plus 2 kit which only adds 1/4" to the mag length, you can get 10 rounds, which for this limited capacity state is the same for all semi's anyways, so round count for the Kahr is not so limiting.

[Neal_G.]

Have you actually shot a P239 before? Its accuracy, reliability and handling characteristics are why I still carry it regularly, even though it has more limited capacity compared to most. Plus, the machining and finishing are top notch. If you can find one used for a good price I’d definitely give it a try.

[HighValleyRanch]

No, never shot one. Not too many places near me where I could try one out, no rentals and nobody I know with one.
I did handle one sometime at a gun shop one time. I remember that I thought it felt clunky, busy and heavy for what it was. To me, the Sigs seem to have a very high bore axis compared to most others guns in the same class.

[wild cat mccane]

No. Magguts doesnt have a plus 2 option right now. Youre at 7 plus one only.

With p365 Sharps Bro grip you are plus two in factory 10 mag. P365 is slimmer. Kahr take down lever is huge and never in width measures

[FITASC]

Sig now offers a metal frame for their P365 pistols which are the same size as the Kahr with twice the capacity, and why I sold my CM- for the P365

[wild cat mccane]

Walther Q and PDP are both offered in steel frames. These models are denoted by "SF" = steel frame.

You know, I have a Q5 SF and a Q5 polymer. So exactly the same gun.

While the Q5 SF feels great just holding it (so not using it)...at the range the polymer is more pleasant.

Apples to apples.

If you go the P365 metal frame route, there are 4 makers. Mischief Machine turns the P365 grip into a 1911ish grip.

I haven't yet taken the plunge, but do think a silver XL slide on a black/wood grip is coming up next for me. However, I've not read anything that says performance is better but have read it looks nicer.

[HighValleyRanch]

LOL, if it looks better then it's GOTTA shoot better for sure! At least in one's own mind.

To be honest, the whole reason I got on this niche quest was because I got some cool Hogue G10 grips coming for my stainless Sig P230, and then got the idea to look for a matching stainless 9mm to pair up with it. So, not just metal but stainless was part of the niche, hence the Kahr K9 or polished elite version.

I have plenty of polymer 9's to shoot already.
Not mine, but this is exactly what I got in the mail coming.

And this is close to what I want to match to it

[wild cat mccane]

If it helps you at all in your decision, that doesn't look all that great

[HighValleyRanch]

I knew that you would say that!LOL
It's my toy.

[Super Sneaky Steve]

The S&W CSX has a metal frame. Very small. The Gen 2 is out now. I would actually prefer the Gen 1 because they made the newer one have even more aggressive grip texture. It's the cancer of the gun industry right now.

[wild cat mccane]

I get it though. Silver or grey is my jam too. But imo, black metal grip, cherry red wood panel, and silver slide P365? Resident Evil made a billion dollar game with that look

Trigger a million times better, better sights, better mags...

I am just joshing with ya. But as a friend, be VERY AWARE, i think the HK P2000 and Kahr metal series are the top percent and dollar total reseller losers of all guns made.

Consider buying used...a used Kahr...ew...

[HighValleyRanch]

I'm actually thinking the opposite.

The P2000 is one of the most under rated pistols of the HK series. There are many YT videos discussing all this. Now that it is going to be discontinued, the price will at some point come back up years later when people miss that beautiful design and get sick of the fad of the tractor tire polymer pistols like the V9, Walther PDP, etc.

Same goes for the Kahr K9, one that started it all, and will be phased out for the ugly double stack picatinny rail, large tractor serration models. It's just a phase and in the future, the simple elegant designs will be missed and treasured. The beauty of the K9 is in its simplicity.

It called CLASSICs! Can you imagine those over cut serrations on an elegant Colt Gold Cup. Everyone just wants "tactical cool" right now. Just like everyone has to have a tactical cool beard and tats right now.

I find it hilarious that on the Semi forums everybody wants this tactical look, but on the Revolver forums, nobody wants the tactical looking revolvers and crave for the classic lines.

[wild cat mccane]

My bad. I mean to say they are the worst resell values.

I too think the P2000 is great. But it can't hold it's high cost bc it's so close to a USP price to start. So expect 500 max. Greyguns didnt make the reset even modern other similar ok for me, but i like it over my P30 and past P30L.

On the metal Kahr, they truly werent that popular at peak. Now Kahr has lost on every attribute. Even the P365 looks good. The market just is effectively...you I would expect few would want it, even at 75% loss. Here, you might score someone selling theirs at a huge loss and get what you wanted?

Sunk cost is nothing if you plan to love it, agreed.
P365 modularity makes loving it much easier.

P320 AXG or aftermarket allow grips too...but the stand out is the P365. Sku with TRX3 gets you the stainless slide options.

Good luck!