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Old January 30, 2025, 01:23 PM   #1
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The NRA Board Election: Vote for These Strong and Effective Leaders

If you’re an NRA voting member, your ballot for the NRA election is now arriving in the February issue of your NRA magazine.

This year’s election is especially important because, now that the New York Attorney General’s attempt to put NRA out of business has failed, we must now direct our energy and efforts to rebuilding and strengthening NRA. How we do this, and under what leadership, will determine how quickly we can restore and regain our unified strength for our mission, our members, our donors, and indeed for our country.

Our team has the knowledge, skills and experience to guide NRA though this challenging transition period to a strong financial and political resurgence.

We are: Bob Barr, Sharon Callan, Larry E. Craig, Isaac Demarest, Lawrence Finder, Jeff Fleetham, Carol Frampton, Joel Friedman, Sandra S. Froman, Tom King, Charles Rowe, Ronald L. Schmeits, John C. Sigler, Danny Stowers, Dwight D. Van Horn and Blaine Wade

We’re a group of concerned Second Amendment activists, attorneys, former members of the U.S. House of Representatives, the U.S Senate, business executives, financial experts, distinguished competitive shooters and respected law enforcement leaders. We’re running for the NRA Board of Directors because we’re very concerned about the future of NRA and the Second Amendment

Many of our team participated in the reform of NRA’s financial operations, putting in place robust accounting oversight controls to protect NRA’s finances, many of which were specifically endorsed by the Judge in the New York case. Under our leadership, new NRA committees were appointed to oversee the financial operations of the NRA. Now, we must direct our efforts to rebuilding and strengthening NRA.

Each member of our team brings a solid record of accomplishment.

One of our team initiated the landmark lawsuit, NYSRPA v Bruen, which resulted in the US Supreme Court upholding the right to carry and ruling that the New York law restricting concealed carry permits was unconstitutional.

Other members of our team have been responsible for landmark pro-2nd Amendment decisions in state and federal courts. Our team includes former legislators and law enforcement leaders who have considerable experience promoting pro-Second Amendment legislation and opposing anti-gun laws. Still other team members who come from business and banking backgrounds will provide valuable oversight for NRA financial and budgetary policies.

Our team also includes an International Distinguished Rifleman and a Police Pistol Champion. These team members are strongly committed to the expansion of the many NRA training and shooting programs that benefit all NRA members.

We ask for your vote in this very important NRA Board of Directors election. Help us keep NRA strong and effective. Vote for this winning team of candidates.

You can also see more about us at Ammoland:

https://www.ammoland.com/2025/01/nra...ctive-leaders/
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Old January 30, 2025, 09:56 PM   #2
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Jeff Knox has a different opinion on the candidates rercommended above:

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"There are only 4 candidates on this year’s ballot who I strongly oppose for reelection due to their history of supporting and defending Wayne LaPierre, and for opposing efforts to dissolve the Special Litigation Committee and divorce the Association from the Brewer law firm.

Those 4 are Bob Barr, Sandy Froman, Tom King, and Joel Friedman.

These four have teamed up with a dozen other candidates to run as a team. They have an ad in the ballot issue of NRA magazines and have put up a website at www.StrongNRA.com where they list their candidates and provide more information.

The safe bet is to simply avoid giving anyone listed in that ad or on that website your vote. Along with the four mentioned above, the “Strong NRA” team includes long-time Directors John Sigler, Ron Schmeits, Dwight Van Horn, Larry Craig, and Carol Frampton, who have all served on the Board for decades and all failed to carry out their fiduciary duty to take action to fix the problems that were clearly evident years ago. They’ve also gone along with attempts to sweep those problems under the rug."
Read the rest of Knox's opinion here:

https://www.ammoland.com/2025/01/nra...members-hands/
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Old January 31, 2025, 02:29 AM   #3
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Jeff Knox is not a good source for recommendations

Jeff Knox frequently starts his attack on his fellow Board members with “This is not some sort of personal vendetta.” and launches on an attack full of ridiculous claims . Of course it is a personal vendetta. He’s been on a crusade to get revenge against NRA and certain board members ever since he and others were not elected to the NRA Board by the voters over 25 years ago.

Most of what Jeff Knox says is distorted, inaccurate, innuendo, speculative and in some cases even ridiculous. This is why the voters gave him and his cronies the boot in the late 90’s.

He claims that NRA has been a failure for the past 20 years. Where is the evidence? NRA spent over $60 million to help get Donald Trump elected in 2016 and now we have a pro-Second Amendment majority in the Supreme Court. Was that a failure? NRA helped elect numerous successful pro-gun candidates in federal, state and local elections over the past 20 years. NRA helped pass numerous pro-gun laws. Where is the failure?

Knox is acting like a democrat propagandist. He blames board members for nonexistant "failures over the past 20 years". Its all just gaslighting, bloviating, fear mongering.

One of Knox's more ridiculous statements was his suggestion that the NRA should have fired its attorneys right in the middle of the New York court case! Yes, during the actual negotiations to conclude the case against NRA, Jeff Knox supported firing NRA's attorneys! What was his reason? To save NRA money in legal fees!!!

And what would have happened to the NRA if it had actually fired its attorneys? It would have had to hire new attorneys at a great cost to the NRA to have new attorneys come up to speed. Unless maybe Jeff was figuring that NRA should have gone into court nekkid as a jaybird, before God and everybody, without any attorney at all?

And now Jeff Knox has the temerity to post his ridiculous attack on board members who opposed firing NRA's attorneys during the actual court proceedings. He actually expects you to not see through this nonsense.

Jeff Knox is just a bitter old man, desperately seeking revenge for events that happened a quarter century ago.
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Old January 31, 2025, 09:10 AM   #4
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All these election accomplishments attributed to the NRA happened because of or in spite of? Additionally the article you linked to was a self-promotional piece written by Bob Barr himself.

It boils down on whether one wants to retain the WLP loyalist guards which has branded itself as NRA Strong or not.
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Old January 31, 2025, 11:13 AM   #5
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Just mailed my ballot. Sorry Seth, I did not vote for your team. First time I've seen campaigning for these positions, though.
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Old January 31, 2025, 12:08 PM   #6
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I'm not voting for these four. IMO they were part of the problem in ignoring and supporting WLP.

Bob Barr, Sandy Froman, Tom King, and Joel Friedman.
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Old January 31, 2025, 02:57 PM   #7
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In my opinion, anyone who was a member of the NRA board while Wayne LaPierre was in office and who didn't actively seek to remove LaPierre is part of the problem and will not receive my vote.

Remember: 'If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem."
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Old January 31, 2025, 03:02 PM   #8
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Jeff Knox is not a good source for recommendations

Jeff Knox is just a bitter old man, desperately seeking revenge for events that happened a quarter century ago.
Like the horrible by-laws revision that Jeff warned us about, but which the BOD championed and which was passed anyway?

Mr. Haan, you might have more credibility if you were a long-time participant on this site. As it is, you are a newbie who obviously joined only to campaign for your "team."
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Old January 31, 2025, 03:49 PM   #9
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In my opinion, anyone who was a member of the NRA board while Wayne LaPierre was in office and who didn't actively seek to remove LaPierre is part of the problem and will not receive my vote.
Agree.


Many years ago I was involved with paperwork around a stockholder lawsuit against the management of a corporation. One of the side pieces of information that I discovered was related to warning signs of mismanagement, one of which was an excessive number of members on the Board of Directors.
We are allowed to vote on up to 28 directors annually and there are way more than that on the whole board. The NRA has what I believe would be an excessive number of directors.
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Old February 3, 2025, 01:24 PM   #10
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I'm gettting on the stump for Howard Massingill. Before retiring he was CSM in the Tenth Special Forces Group and attended Trinidad College's gunsmithing program, graduating one semester after me. After graduation he operated a gunshop and taught the college's Army Armorer's Class for soldiers.
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Old February 3, 2025, 04:25 PM   #11
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Yep, I voted for the Sgt Major.
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Old February 3, 2025, 06:27 PM   #12
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***Mr. Haan, you might have more credibility if you were a long-time participant on this site. As it is, you are a newbie who obviously joined only to campaign for your "team."***

This. When those who shilled for and worked with WLP are gone, send me a membership form. Until then I have other organizations I partner with.
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Old February 3, 2025, 07:27 PM   #13
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The NRA is still relevant after the WLP fiasco?
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Old February 5, 2025, 12:39 AM   #14
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Not if the old guard (NRA Strong) isn't booted out.

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Old February 11, 2025, 05:20 PM   #15
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The NRA is coming back

NRA's New York trial has ended recently (in December).

The trial judge made it clear that all parties who were involved in the financial misconduct at NRA have been banned from working at NRA for the next ten years.

The trial judge recognized the many financial reforms made by the NRA Board of Directors over the past several years and indicated that he approved the reforms that are currently in place at NRA. In his Final Judgement the trial judge adopted, nearly verbatim the NRA Board's proposals for additional reforms. The judge is satisfied with the reforms that the NRA Board has made and the case has now been concluded.

To learn more on the reforms that have been made by the NRA Board of Directors, go to:

https://www.ammoland.com/2025/02/nra...nra-president/
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Old February 11, 2025, 06:31 PM   #16
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The ballot issue of TAR has this two-page ad, one page just before the white paper that starts the ballot information and one just after. These contain Buzz Mills' recommendations for the board of directors to create NRA 2.0. These are definitely the folks to vote for if you want to oust the old guard from the board.

But whether the old guard is fully shown the door or not, NRA membership still has the one unsurpassed political advantage it has always had, and that is its size. In a past article about the NRA's political influence, the liberal Atlantic Weekly magazine pointed out that despite anti-gunners' claims that the NRA buys influence, the NRA's political might does not come from its campaign contributions (it was something like the 290th largest organizational campaign donor nationwide in the 2020 election). Its power and influence in Washington come from the one thing it can do that no other pro-2A organization can do, and that is put out a call for letters and phone calls to representatives that will result in hundreds of thousands, and sometimes even millions, of affirmative actions by its members. (And then, of course, the Washington reaction is followed up on by how the members cast their ballots on voting day.)

Whatever else you feel about the past organizational governance screw-ups and failures, that one fact of sheer size is far and away our country's most important safeguard against bad gun legislation and for pro-2nd Amendment legislation. The GOA is more assertive in the arena of no-compromise lawsuits, so I am a life member. John Lott continues to do a better job of arguing the folly of gun control advocates' claims, so I donate to him. I also belong to several other pro-2A organizations. But I will not resign my NRA life membership nor cease to renew my Golden Eagle status each year because of that one factor that remains no matter who is in charge: the 900-pound gorilla clout the organization has in Washington.
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Old February 11, 2025, 07:43 PM   #17
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Thank you Uncle Nick.

Now I have a ballot for the NMLRA (National Muzzle Loading Rifle Association) and don't know anyone who is running.
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Old February 12, 2025, 07:13 PM   #18
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The NRA is coming back
NRA's New York trial has ended recently (in December).

The trial judge made it clear that all parties who were involved in the financial misconduct at NRA have been banned from working at NRA for the next ten years.

The trial judge recognized the many financial reforms made by the NRA Board of Directors over the past several years and indicated that he approved the reforms that are currently in place at NRA. In his Final Judgement the trial judge adopted, nearly verbatim the NRA Board's proposals for additional reforms. The judge is satisfied with the reforms that the NRA Board has made and the case has now been concluded.
You joined this forum and other gunboards soley for the purpose of shilling for the NRA Old Guard. People are asking about you too:

https://onlygunsandmoney.com/?p=35061
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The trial judge made it clear that all parties who were involved in the financial misconduct at NRA have been banned from working at NRA for the next ten years.
What does "working at" mean?

Members of boards of directors are not employees.
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Old February 13, 2025, 03:52 PM   #20
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Board actions are based on majority vote. How did your candidates vote on each of the changes? How many of the changes were proposed by members of your "team"?
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Old February 14, 2025, 12:08 PM   #21
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Thanks for the information, I will consider your recommendations when I cast my votes.

Where do these people stand on the repeal of the Hughes Amendment?
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Old February 14, 2025, 12:59 PM   #22
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I'm not aware of any place where you can look up something that specific, but you can try looking the individual candidates up online. They may mention it. The fact Buzz Mills likes them is a nudge in the right direction, as Gunsite has had in the past and is bringing back a submachinegun operators class.
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Old February 14, 2025, 03:57 PM   #23
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P.S.

It took me a minute to find the home cities and states of the two write-in candidates on the list recommended by Buzz Mills. You need this information to write them in. Charles Brown is from Dayton, Ohio, and Paul Babaz if from Atlanta, Georgia. These locations are posted in this version of the material that went into the ad in TAR.

Per my first post in this thread, keep in mind the NRA is 300 times bigger than the next largest Pro-2A organization, so we need to keep its preservation in our sights!
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Old February 14, 2025, 11:42 PM   #24
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Uncle Nick, I agree most heartedly with your position.
If one is dissatisfied with an organization, the least likely successful move to improve its agenda is to quit. If there is an equivalent similar exodus of members, the reason for the dissatisfaction is unlikely to improve. Change requires strength in numbers, and now that the NRA's new leaders have recognized the fallacies of the past, we need to strengthen the membership. The leader of the pro-2nd amendment enthusiasts is one that has the most voters. If we discard the NRA and divide our aspirations among more than one representative, we are not likely to be as successful.
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Here's another group that is anti-Old Guard:

https://electanewnra.com/

Is the election over yet? I sent in my ballot a while back.
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