Arisaka questions

bkricks · August 15, 2024, 01:49 PM

My grandson got an aria aka ( looks like type 38) two vent holes. It has this incomplete bolt assembly, can anyone tell me anything about it to get parts. Thanks

FrankenMauser · August 15, 2024, 02:04 PM

That is a training rifle, not intended to be fired with live ammo.

**44 AMP** · August 15, 2024, 02:27 PM

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That is a training rifle, not intended to be fired with live ammo.

Agreed. I don't see any locking lugs on the bolt body. DO NOT put live ammo in the gun. It shouldn't fit, or fire, but if it does, it will be a disaster and dangerous to the shooter.

The Type 38 and Type 99 Arisakas use a Mauser pattern bolt, with large dual locking lugs on the bolt head. I don't see anything like that in your pictures.

I wouldn't risk it.

Hawg · August 16, 2024, 12:32 PM

I agree with the others. This is what an Arisaka bolt looks like.

jcj54 · August 17, 2024, 12:38 PM

Japanese Army and Navy training rifles were smooth bore with cast iron receivers meant for minimal power wooden bullet training cartridges. They were made in 6.5 and 7.7, and WILL chamber service cartridges.
The results of firing a service cartridge are catastrophic for rifle and shooter....

bamaranger · August 19, 2024, 11:28 PM

Once again, I am amazed at the depth of knowledge from our members. Well done guys.....I knew none of this stuff.

**44 AMP** · August 20, 2024, 01:09 PM

For something to ponder, remember that there were Training rifles, /drill rifles / parade rifles / and service rifles in numerous types and forms used by many nations through WWII, and some nations still do.

Also, in the case of the Japanese, there are "last ditch" rifles (rifles identified as "last ditch" due to their generally inferior construction compared to service rifles.) This is a term made up by gun dealers, and may not be accurate.

The Japanese planned to use everything they had in their "last ditch" defense, and that included weapons built cheaply and poorly for the defense, service weapons and drill/training weapons, if they could shoot (once, anyway) and would take a bayonet. I've also heard they were producing large numbers of bamboo spears, and that there was one arsenal that kept producing type 38s (6.5mm) service rifles until the last days of the war.

Arisakas can be lots of different things, from a historical use perspective. I'm not an expert in the field, but I do know a few things, one of which applies to all wartime guns, buy the gun, not the story, without documentation.

Good luck with yours, its a wall hanger, not a safe functional firearm.

**4V50 Gary** · August 27, 2024, 07:24 PM

Concur w/44_AMP. It's a prize in and of itself.

Danwin22 · October 11, 2024, 09:47 AM

I have a custom Arisaka 30-06 that was built by my brother's father-in-law.

I'm 85 and ended up with keeping it in the family.

The builder was best buds with Ted Williams so I'm sure Ted handled this rifle at some point.

August 15, 2024, 02:04 PM	#2
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,776	That is a training rifle, not intended to be fired with live ammo. __________________ -Unwilling Range Officer -Unwilling Match Designer -NRL22/PRS22/PRO -Something about broccoli and carrots

August 19, 2024, 11:28 PM	#6
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,800	wow! Once again, I am amazed at the depth of knowledge from our members. Well done guys.....I knew none of this stuff.

August 20, 2024, 01:09 PM	#7
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 30,487	For something to ponder, remember that there were Training rifles, /drill rifles / parade rifles / and service rifles in numerous types and forms used by many nations through WWII, and some nations still do. Also, in the case of the Japanese, there are "last ditch" rifles (rifles identified as "last ditch" due to their generally inferior construction compared to service rifles.) This is a term made up by gun dealers, and may not be accurate. The Japanese planned to use everything they had in their "last ditch" defense, and that included weapons built cheaply and poorly for the defense, service weapons and drill/training weapons, if they could shoot (once, anyway) and would take a bayonet. I've also heard they were producing large numbers of bamboo spears, and that there was one arsenal that kept producing type 38s (6.5mm) service rifles until the last days of the war. Arisakas can be lots of different things, from a historical use perspective. I'm not an expert in the field, but I do know a few things, one of which applies to all wartime guns, buy the gun, not the story, without documentation. Good luck with yours, its a wall hanger, not a safe functional firearm. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

August 27, 2024, 07:24 PM	#8
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,306	Concur w/44_AMP. It's a prize in and of itself. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

August 16, 2024, 12:32 PM	#4
Hawg Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 16,380	I agree with the others. This is what an Arisaka bolt looks like.

August 17, 2024, 12:38 PM	#5
jcj54 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2011 Posts: 282	Japanese Army and Navy training rifles were smooth bore with cast iron receivers meant for minimal power wooden bullet training cartridges. They were made in 6.5 and 7.7, and WILL chamber service cartridges. The results of firing a service cartridge are catastrophic for rifle and shooter....