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Berry's Plated Bullets
If anyone is interested, Shooting Times just posted an article oabout Berry's plated bullets. Their opinion was favorable -- and they included a chart with some representative load data.
https://www.shootingtimes.com/editor...bullets/382815
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Aguila Blanca- thanks for the information, I use Berry bullets in several calibers and am always looking for good load data.
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Good article. The writer may be late to the party. I've been loading plated bullets for years (I'm partial to X-treme; but Berry's are great too).
Because of plated bullets, I basically quit loading lead. Less messy at the load bench. No lube smoke at the range. Much much much easier firearm clean up. Well worth the slight extra cost compared to straight lead.
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I call Bull on this article. Over the last 26+ years (Speer #12 Copywrite 1994) Gold Dots, Unicores, etc. have been on the market and Lane Pierce (author) has loaded, tested, and commented them. They always were and have been PLATED bullets. He may not have used Berry's but he has written extensively on Speer Plated Products over the last 30 years.
I've been using West Coast / Accura / Xtreme since ~1991. Tried Rainiers and a couple others. Not all plated are the same as far as core hardness and plating thickness. Lee data is copied from a colaboration between Accurate Arms (pre Western) & Rainier. Shame is that Western took down AA's page on the data which inculded an explination on WHY they compiled the pressure tested load data. Rainier had some of the thinnest plating around. If you believe this garbage don't load the 30 carbine bullets as they will go WAY past the 1500 fps for thick plated speed limit. Xtreme has tested that bullet to 2200 fps. If STAFF or anyone else wants to call me on this point they had better CALL Xtreme and ask them for themselves first. I've driven this bullet to over 2100 fps (chrono'ed) with accuracy comperable to FMJ. |
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I have shot several plated 9MM bullets from different mfgs. Some are shinier than others but far as I can tell they all shoot the same. Midwestern, Berrys, Extreme, Ranier, and prolly others. I usually buy from who has them in stock at the best price.........I recently ordered some coated bullets from Brazos, delivery slow these days, may be after the election by the time I get them.
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Berry's bullets are a great bang for your buck. I just wish they'd offer more variety in their bullets, specifically making some bullets for .32 revolvers and more bullets with a crimp groove for .38/.357 and .45 Colt.
The plating can take every bit of the 1250 fps velocity, but the recoil generated (especially in light revolvers) can pull bullets out of cases quickly without a proper crimp. The alignment is key and one reason I use a Lyman M die when I load .32. Plan to buy the M die for .38 and .45 in the near future.
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Incidentally, it is peak pressure and not velocity that determines a bullet's limitations. A Berry's that is loaded to 1250 fps in a 4" 9 mm barrel will go faster in a longer barrel and do just fine, as pressure is getting lower by the time 4" is reached and will get still lower beyond that distance in a longer tube.
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link to THR thread Very early on different products jacket thicknesses and some core are laid out. Last edited by SHR970; August 17, 2020 at 06:56 PM. |
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