Casualty at range, $100 loss.

tangolima · May 21, 2020, 10:12 AM

I did it for the 3rd time in 10 years. I shot my chrony right between the eyes. My fault and my fault alone.

I test fired a cut-down Krag carbine for the first time with my handload. Aimed about 5" above the chrony. Problem was the rifle has a tall 1903 front sight. It shots way low unless the rear sight is set to 600yd. I should have bore sighted it before I fired. The 180gr cast bullet just went through, inflicted a horrendous exit wound.

I am going to put an end to this stupidity by getting a labradar. Just wait for sales to happen.

Be careful and don't be like me.

-TL

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berettaprofessor · May 21, 2020, 10:39 AM

Saw the "$100 casualty" title and my first thought was "somebody shot their chrony."

BillM · May 21, 2020, 10:45 AM

I've got a couple of F1 Chrony's that look very similar. Eventually I'll make a
set of bookends for my gun book shelf out of them.

HiBC · May 21, 2020, 11:40 AM

I,too,had a hunch you shot your chronograph.

I whacked the sky screens off my CED once.

reinert · May 21, 2020, 11:55 AM

A dear friend who passed away a bit over a year ago gave me his "Shooting Chrony, Master Gamma With Printer" a few years ago; just like new. He bought a labradar and told me he'd never look back, and he never did. I STILL haven't tried out my gifted Chrony, because I'm just too afraid I'll end up with the thing looking like the OP's unit. It's just kind of a keepsake I treasure from a good friend who's made the journey. I've never tried using any sort of chronograph to date, but maybe one day...

reynolds357 · May 21, 2020, 12:09 PM

I have lost count of the shot chronographs I have seen. I cant help myself, I laugh hysterically every time it happens.

tangolima · May 21, 2020, 12:40 PM

I did laugh each time I killed a chrony till I realized I had just lost 100 bucks. At this rate I could have recouped the $500 labradar price tag in about 10 years. Not great but the convenience of not having to wait for cease fire to set up the chrony is worth half the money.

It is more than $100 actually. It was a beta with wired remote display. I can't do the cheaper alpha version as I can't see that LCD display 5 yd away.

Guys, do post when you see labradar on sales. Thanks in advance.

-TL

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stagpanther · May 21, 2020, 04:24 PM

Don't feel bad, I had a chrony that I hated so much I bought a labradar and have never even remotely looked back. In fact, I occasionally got so fed up I deliberately aimed at my chrony--but of course missed.

How a serious reloader can get by without a labradar and quickload is beyond me.

zeke · May 21, 2020, 04:46 PM

Have shot a couple myself, back when they were cheaper. That is why some choose to buy inexpensive ones.

Scorch · May 21, 2020, 04:48 PM

I have 2 Chronys, one bought and the other gifted after the original owner watched somebody do exactly what you did. Got to remember the bore is 1-1/2" lower than line of sight! Ouch!

I haven't done that YET.

tlm225 · May 21, 2020, 08:44 PM

I avoid this by placing a strip of blue painters tape across sunshade wires 4-5" above the chrony. That serves as a "don't aim below this point" reference. Of course that's no help if someone muffs a shot low.

ms6852 · May 21, 2020, 10:08 PM

I shot one with a 450 Marlin, it rained parts for about 10 minutes.

armoredman · May 22, 2020, 05:09 AM

I shot my F1 on the 6th round I shot over it. Boom. Didn't have a chronograph for quite some time. I am VERY paranoid about my ProChrono I have now, as I can't afford to run out and get another one!
How do I survive without a labradar and quickload? Easily. I don't even know what either of them are. I load by hit and miss, by gosh and by golly, and have an absolute blast in between.

But I am small volume, maybe 100 max per loading trip to the bench, and testers are in ten round blocks.

AzShooter · May 22, 2020, 07:13 AM

I have a Competition Electronics Chronograph. The good thing about it is that if I shoot it I can send it in for repair and only pay a small premium to have it fixed. Not if I shoot it as badly as you did but I've lent it out and gotten it back with bullets through it.

I've bought a few Chrony's over the years, as they have come out with new models and have been very pleased with them.

**4V50 Gary** · May 22, 2020, 08:54 AM

Good learning point. Boresight first.

Sevens · May 22, 2020, 02:36 PM

Full disclosure: I kind of hate chronos, but that is a major thread drift and nobody agrees with me anyway.

But to my point... you did great because you killed the world’s most frustrating chronograph! The Chrony series does a fine job of reading each shot and it’s micro brain has all the potential in the world to do extreme mathematical computations -BUT- it limits you to a 10-shot string AND it forces you to take the power of NASA and manipulate it all with only a ridiculous three old-tech click buttons.

When the day comes that my Chrony Beta Master takes a slug and explodes, I will crack a beer and celebrate. (after I get home of course, not on the range)

Forget the fact that I don’t enjoy time spent with a Chrongraph... the Chrony series is definitely the BEST chronograph to shoot and destroy!

Paul B. · May 22, 2020, 03:00 PM

"It is more than $100 actually. It was a beta with wired remote display. I can't do the cheaper alpha version as I can't see that LCD display 5 yd away."

Maybe this will help. When you're lining up the Chrony with the target and the rifle, if your scope is a variable do the set up using the lowest power on the scope so that when they are lined up the crosshairs are in the middle and about two thirds of the way up from the top of the machine. I killed three Chonograph over the years since I bought my first one.

The first was like the OPs only not quite so bad Another happened when I was running some loads from a .44 SPL. and the bullet one of the posts holding the sunshade. The last one was actually my first chronograph, an old Oehler Model ten. It got so erratic I sent it back for repair. It came buck and went haywire again so I put me out of my misery by shooting the damned with a 30-06 IIRC. Since I described how I set up I haven't killed another one.

Paul B.

tangolima · May 22, 2020, 04:59 PM

The chrony works quite alright with me. I don't use any of the fancy features. Just take down the numbers and do my own analysis on excel, including taking out erroneous readings. With 10 years of continuous use, I have figured out solutions to problem of almost of any kinds. What I can't fix, other than this constant casualty rate, is the wait for cease fire to set up and the wait the other guys have to put up with me. That's probably the main excuse to upgrade. Upcoming memorial day is the chance. If I can a good deal, I will get a labradar. If not, I will hunt for another chrony and continue with the destiny.

Please help me out of this calamity by posting a link when you see a good deal!

-TL

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Arub · May 22, 2020, 08:11 PM

Out of curiosity, how far out from the muzzle was the chrony set? I don't have the intestinal fortitude to set mine in front of the at any range, just set it up 10 to 15 feet from the muzzle.

tangolima · May 22, 2020, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arub

Out of curiosity, how far out from the muzzle was the chrony set? I don't have the intestinal fortitude to set mine in front of the at any range, just set it up 10 to 15 feet from the muzzle.

About 5 yd. You will get erroneous readings if you put it too close. The gas comes out of the muzzle would trigger sensor #1 prematurely. I agree putting anything in front of the muzzle this close is risky. If you accidentally hit it, flying debris may hurt you or bystanders. Another reason (excuse) to upgrade. Thanks.

-TL

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bamaranger · May 23, 2020, 02:24 AM

Clipped mine about a year ago, but got away w/ it. The slug just creased the top of the gap for the last window. A bit of duct tape and I was back in business.

Bamaboy came out last week, wanted to chrono some pistol loads. His 3rd shot over my Chrony, he clipped one of the sunshades. More duct tape!

Nathan · May 23, 2020, 07:48 AM

That is your god telling you that you should have bought a Labradar!

olddav · May 23, 2020, 07:52 AM

I want to chuckle but I believe I see my future.

reinert · May 23, 2020, 08:56 AM

Does anyone use the magnetospeed? I’ve considered one in the past, but haven’t researched any reviews lately. Seems they’ve been around long enough to have solid performance info “yea or nay” on them. (?)

tangolima · May 23, 2020, 02:15 PM

I have never considered the magnetospeed and the sort. Would rather stay with optical chronies. Don't want to strap anything to the gun. Besides I want to be able to measure projectile speed of archery, slingshot, etc.

-TL

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May 21, 2020, 10:39 AM	#2
berettaprofessor Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2008 Posts: 1,103	Saw the "$100 casualty" title and my first thought was "somebody shot their chrony." __________________ "What most people forget is that the first country the Nazi's conquered was their own." 44AMP on thefiringline.com

May 21, 2020, 04:24 PM	#8
stagpanther Senior Member Join Date: March 2, 2014 Posts: 12,975	Don't feel bad, I had a chrony that I hated so much I bought a labradar and have never even remotely looked back. In fact, I occasionally got so fed up I deliberately aimed at my chrony--but of course missed. How a serious reloader can get by without a labradar and quickload is beyond me. __________________ "Everyone speaks gun."--Robert O'Neill *I am NOT an expert--I do not have any formal experience or certification in firearms use or testing; use any information I post at your own risk!*

May 21, 2020, 04:48 PM	#10
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,249	I have 2 Chronys, one bought and the other gifted after the original owner watched somebody do exactly what you did. Got to remember the bore is 1-1/2" lower than line of sight! Ouch! I haven't done that YET. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

May 21, 2020, 08:44 PM	#11
tlm225 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 976	I avoid this by placing a strip of blue painters tape across sunshade wires 4-5" above the chrony. That serves as a "don't aim below this point" reference. Of course that's no help if someone muffs a shot low. __________________ All that is neccessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke

May 22, 2020, 08:54 AM	#15
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,309	Good learning point. Boresight first. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

May 21, 2020, 10:12 AM	#1
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 5,183	Casualty at range, $100 loss. I did it for the 3rd time in 10 years. I shot my chrony right between the eyes. My fault and my fault alone. I test fired a cut-down Krag carbine for the first time with my handload. Aimed about 5" above the chrony. Problem was the rifle has a tall 1903 front sight. It shots way low unless the rear sight is set to 600yd. I should have bore sighted it before I fired. The 180gr cast bullet just went through, inflicted a horrendous exit wound. I am going to put an end to this stupidity by getting a labradar. Just wait for sales to happen. Be careful and don't be like me. -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

May 21, 2020, 10:45 AM	#3
BillM Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2009 Location: Amity Oregon Posts: 798	I've got a couple of F1 Chrony's that look very similar. Eventually I'll make a set of bookends for my gun book shelf out of them.

May 21, 2020, 11:40 AM	#4
HiBC Senior Member Join Date: November 13, 2006 Posts: 8,350	I,too,had a hunch you shot your chronograph. I whacked the sky screens off my CED once.

May 21, 2020, 11:55 AM	#5
reinert Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 646	A dear friend who passed away a bit over a year ago gave me his "Shooting Chrony, Master Gamma With Printer" a few years ago; just like new. He bought a labradar and told me he'd never look back, and he never did. I STILL haven't tried out my gifted Chrony, because I'm just too afraid I'll end up with the thing looking like the OP's unit. It's just kind of a keepsake I treasure from a good friend who's made the journey. I've never tried using any sort of chronograph to date, but maybe one day...

May 21, 2020, 12:09 PM	#6
reynolds357 Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2012 Posts: 6,187	I have lost count of the shot chronographs I have seen. I cant help myself, I laugh hysterically every time it happens.

May 21, 2020, 12:40 PM	#7
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 5,183	I did laugh each time I killed a chrony till I realized I had just lost 100 bucks. At this rate I could have recouped the $500 labradar price tag in about 10 years. Not great but the convenience of not having to wait for cease fire to set up the chrony is worth half the money. It is more than $100 actually. It was a beta with wired remote display. I can't do the cheaper alpha version as I can't see that LCD display 5 yd away. Guys, do post when you see labradar on sales. Thanks in advance. -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

May 21, 2020, 04:46 PM	#9
zeke Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 1999 Location: NW Wi Posts: 1,759	Have shot a couple myself, back when they were cheaper. That is why some choose to buy inexpensive ones.

May 21, 2020, 10:08 PM	#12
ms6852 Senior Member Join Date: April 4, 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 1,394	I shot one with a 450 Marlin, it rained parts for about 10 minutes.

May 22, 2020, 05:09 AM	#13
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,483	I shot my F1 on the 6th round I shot over it. Boom. Didn't have a chronograph for quite some time. I am VERY paranoid about my ProChrono I have now, as I can't afford to run out and get another one! How do I survive without a labradar and quickload? Easily. I don't even know what either of them are. I load by hit and miss, by gosh and by golly, and have an absolute blast in between. But I am small volume, maybe 100 max per loading trip to the bench, and testers are in ten round blocks.

May 22, 2020, 07:13 AM	#14
AzShooter Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2006 Location: Surprise, Az. Posts: 766	I have a Competition Electronics Chronograph. The good thing about it is that if I shoot it I can send it in for repair and only pay a small premium to have it fixed. Not if I shoot it as badly as you did but I've lent it out and gotten it back with bullets through it. I've bought a few Chrony's over the years, as they have come out with new models and have been very pleased with them.

May 22, 2020, 02:36 PM	#16
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,775	Full disclosure: I kind of hate chronos, but that is a major thread drift and nobody agrees with me anyway. But to my point... you did great because you killed the world’s most frustrating chronograph! The Chrony series does a fine job of reading each shot and it’s micro brain has all the potential in the world to do extreme mathematical computations -BUT- it limits you to a 10-shot string AND it forces you to take the power of NASA and manipulate it all with only a ridiculous three old-tech click buttons. When the day comes that my Chrony Beta Master takes a slug and explodes, I will crack a beer and celebrate. (after I get home of course, not on the range) Forget the fact that I don’t enjoy time spent with a Chrongraph... the Chrony series is definitely the BEST chronograph to shoot and destroy! __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

May 22, 2020, 03:00 PM	#17
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,938	"It is more than $100 actually. It was a beta with wired remote display. I can't do the cheaper alpha version as I can't see that LCD display 5 yd away." Maybe this will help. When you're lining up the Chrony with the target and the rifle, if your scope is a variable do the set up using the lowest power on the scope so that when they are lined up the crosshairs are in the middle and about two thirds of the way up from the top of the machine. I killed three Chonograph over the years since I bought my first one. The first was like the OPs only not quite so bad Another happened when I was running some loads from a .44 SPL. and the bullet one of the posts holding the sunshade. The last one was actually my first chronograph, an old Oehler Model ten. It got so erratic I sent it back for repair. It came buck and went haywire again so I put me out of my misery by shooting the damned with a 30-06 IIRC. Since I described how I set up I haven't killed another one. Paul B. __________________ COMPROMISE IS NOT AN OPTION!

May 22, 2020, 04:59 PM	#18
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 5,183	The chrony works quite alright with me. I don't use any of the fancy features. Just take down the numbers and do my own analysis on excel, including taking out erroneous readings. With 10 years of continuous use, I have figured out solutions to problem of almost of any kinds. What I can't fix, other than this constant casualty rate, is the wait for cease fire to set up and the wait the other guys have to put up with me. That's probably the main excuse to upgrade. Upcoming memorial day is the chance. If I can a good deal, I will get a labradar. If not, I will hunt for another chrony and continue with the destiny. Please help me out of this calamity by posting a link when you see a good deal! -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

May 22, 2020, 08:11 PM	#19
Arub Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2001 Location: UCLA (upper corner of lower Alabama) Posts: 533	Out of curiosity, how far out from the muzzle was the chrony set? I don't have the intestinal fortitude to set mine in front of the at any range, just set it up 10 to 15 feet from the muzzle.

May 23, 2020, 02:24 AM	#21
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,808	two purple hearts for mine!!!! Clipped mine about a year ago, but got away w/ it. The slug just creased the top of the gap for the last window. A bit of duct tape and I was back in business. Bamaboy came out last week, wanted to chrono some pistol loads. His 3rd shot over my Chrony, he clipped one of the sunshades. More duct tape!

May 23, 2020, 07:48 AM	#22
Nathan Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2001 Posts: 6,829	That is your god telling you that you should have bought a Labradar!

May 23, 2020, 07:52 AM	#23
olddav Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2008 Location: Lower Alabama Posts: 727	I want to chuckle but I believe I see my future.

May 23, 2020, 08:56 AM	#24
reinert Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2008 Posts: 646	Magnetospeed? Does anyone use the magnetospeed? I’ve considered one in the past, but haven’t researched any reviews lately. Seems they’ve been around long enough to have solid performance info “yea or nay” on them. (?)

May 23, 2020, 02:15 PM	#25
tangolima Senior Member Join Date: September 28, 2013 Posts: 5,183	I have never considered the magnetospeed and the sort. Would rather stay with optical chronies. Don't want to strap anything to the gun. Besides I want to be able to measure projectile speed of archery, slingshot, etc. -TL Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk