My S&W Victory model is all original now

GaryED50 · December 21, 2014, 07:45 AM

Only problem was I had to make my own pin to hold the swivel in place

Gary

JAREDSHS · December 21, 2014, 07:49 AM

Such a beautiful old gun.....really beautiful.

tallball · December 21, 2014, 09:46 AM

NICE!

GaryED50 · December 21, 2014, 01:42 PM

Thanks

Only thing I don't understand is the point of the sling swivel with only 1 loop what on the other end of the sling?

Gary

**4V50 Gary** · December 21, 2014, 02:05 PM

I have a Victory that was butchered years ago: replacement barrel with an aftermarket barrel (bluing shows it's different metal) that was not timed (so it locked up on two cylinders); buffed out the S&W logo; filed down the hammer to make notches; lanyard loop was removed and stud inserted in its place; plastic stag grips, and; center pin was shortened too much, and then lengthened with JB Weld.

I retimed the barrel, opened up the forcing cone, removed the milling marks and hand polished it, made a new center pin on a lathe, replaced the cylinder stop, milled out the swivel stud and inserted a replacement lanyard loop. It was plenty of work before it was blued.

Anyhow, I still have to make new walnut grips for it.

On the lanyard loop, there's only one because the loop is attached to the bottom to prevent loss of the handgun. The loop may be worn on the shoulder.

ETA: Gary, I wish mine was untouched but it was in butchered state when I got it.

GaryED50 · December 21, 2014, 02:17 PM

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I have a Victory that was butchered years ago: replacement barrel with an aftermarket barrel (bluing shows it's different metal) that was not timed (so it locked up on two cylinders); buffed out the S&W logo; filed down the hammer to make notches; lanyard loop was removed and stud inserted in its place; plastic stag grips, and; center pin was shortened too much, and then lengthened with JB Weld.

I retimed the barrel, opened up the forcing cone, removed the milling marks and hand polished it, made a new center pin on a lathe, replaced the cylinder stop, milled out the swivel stud and inserted a replacement lanyard loop. It was plenty of work before it was blued.

Anyhow, I still have to make new walnut grips for it.

On the lanyard loop, there's only one because the loop is attached to the bottom to prevent loss of the handgun. The loop may be worn on the shoulder.

ETA: Gary, I wish mine was untouched but it was in butchered state when I got it.

Sounds like you will have the revolver restored to original condition soon. Hope you'll post pics when finished. I didn't know the loop was to prevent loss.

Thanks

Gary

BerdanSS · December 21, 2014, 02:44 PM

Man o man I love those pistols. Keep telling myself I'll pick one up one of these days. The first time I ever held one was at a LGS a buddy owned. He had one in there and let me shoot it a time or two. Most accurate pistol I've ever shot. Shot a whole 50 round box of cheap LFN, every one touching @ 10 yards. Ended up with a single quarter size hole

Again, very nice pistol, thanks for sharing.

Bob Wright · December 24, 2014, 02:39 PM

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GaryED50 said, in part: I didn't know the loop was to prevent loss.

Look at photos of WW II vintage, and after, of MPs in class A uniforms. They had a rather elaborate braided shoulder loop and lanyard of white cording. Gave them a pretty official look. Particularly notice during the war criminal trials.

Current trend is to have similar lanyards and swivels to be used by canoists or kayakers.

Bob Wright

James K · December 24, 2014, 04:46 PM

The original purpose of the lanyard loop was to prevent the gun from being lost if dropped by a cavalryman (hollering "ooops" and going back is not a good idea in the middle of a charge). The U.S. cavalry never used a lanyard, as far as I can determine, but they wanted a loop on the M1911 in case they did. British officers did use the lanyard, though, and Military Police used it to keep a bad guy from taking the gun in a struggle.

Jim

December 21, 2014, 07:45 AM	#1
GaryED50 Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2012 Location: Dawsonville Georgia Posts: 542	My S&W Victory model is all original now Only problem was I had to make my own pin to hold the swivel in place Gary

December 21, 2014, 02:05 PM	#5
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,294	I have a Victory that was butchered years ago: replacement barrel with an aftermarket barrel (bluing shows it's different metal) that was not timed (so it locked up on two cylinders); buffed out the S&W logo; filed down the hammer to make notches; lanyard loop was removed and stud inserted in its place; plastic stag grips, and; center pin was shortened too much, and then lengthened with JB Weld. I retimed the barrel, opened up the forcing cone, removed the milling marks and hand polished it, made a new center pin on a lathe, replaced the cylinder stop, milled out the swivel stud and inserted a replacement lanyard loop. It was plenty of work before it was blued. Anyhow, I still have to make new walnut grips for it. On the lanyard loop, there's only one because the loop is attached to the bottom to prevent loss of the handgun. The loop may be worn on the shoulder. ETA: Gary, I wish mine was untouched but it was in butchered state when I got it. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

December 21, 2014, 07:49 AM	#2
JAREDSHS Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2004 Location: Mountains in North East Tennessee. Posts: 176	Such a beautiful old gun.....really beautiful.

December 21, 2014, 09:46 AM	#3
tallball Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2014 Posts: 2,444	NICE!

December 21, 2014, 01:42 PM	#4
GaryED50 Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2012 Location: Dawsonville Georgia Posts: 542	Thanks Only thing I don't understand is the point of the sling swivel with only 1 loop what on the other end of the sling? Gary

December 21, 2014, 02:44 PM	#7
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Location: to close to other houses Posts: 1,176	Man o man I love those pistols. Keep telling myself I'll pick one up one of these days. The first time I ever held one was at a LGS a buddy owned. He had one in there and let me shoot it a time or two. Most accurate pistol I've ever shot. Shot a whole 50 round box of cheap LFN, every one touching @ 10 yards. Ended up with a single quarter size hole Again, very nice pistol, thanks for sharing.

December 24, 2014, 04:46 PM	#9
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	The original purpose of the lanyard loop was to prevent the gun from being lost if dropped by a cavalryman (hollering "ooops" and going back is not a good idea in the middle of a charge). The U.S. cavalry never used a lanyard, as far as I can determine, but they wanted a loop on the M1911 in case they did. British officers did use the lanyard, though, and Military Police used it to keep a bad guy from taking the gun in a struggle. Jim