Hi Point 9mm

[campingnights]

My son decided to upgrade his 22 revolver to a larger caliber handgun. I was pleased that he chose 9mm, as I shoot that too, and ammo is pretty available around here for it. What dismayed me was his decision to buy a Hi Point 9mm on sale at Cabelas. I was certain that a cheap handgun like this would give him nothing but trouble and maybe turn him off from handguns altogether. After a couple of trips to the range, I gotta say I was completely wrong. The gun had good heft to absorb recoil, was accurate, and went BANG every time we pulled the trigger. I also liked the ghost ring site that was mounted on his 9. Hi Point is still ugly as sin, but when I look at the fact that 4-5 Hi Points could be had for what I paid for my Beretta 9mm inox, well even an old dog can learn new tricks. I liked the ghost ring enough to want one for my 9, but heck, they want the better part of $200 for one. Guess I'll spend less and just get a Hi Point for me too! At least I can field strip my Beretta faster than my son can take his apart, guess I'll have to challenge him to that race......LoL

[Gun Slide Guy]

they get a bad rap, but they're just basic, ugly guns that typically function just like much more expensive options

[Wreck-n-Crew]

Welcome to TFL! The subject of Hi-Points has been discussed at length here more than a few times and the majority of people who have had one have good things to say about their functionality. Myself being one of those people I see them as the ugliest, most reliable,heaviest, best customer service, accurate gun in their price range.

They have a simple blow back style design which is easy to build but a pain to disassemble the first few times. However I am not a fan of it as a primary EDC or for home protection if a better one can be had. Just my personal opinion.

[James K]

It never ceases to amuse me when I read something like: "Hi Points are no good, worthless, inaccurate, unreliable junk and if I ever see one..."

Jim

[madmo44mag]

Welcome to TFL! The subject of Hi-Points has been discussed at length here more than a few times and the majority of people who have had one have good things to say about their functionality. Myself being one of those people I see them as the ugliest, most reliable,heaviest, best customer service, accurate gun in their price range.

They have a simple blow back style design which is easy to build but a pain to disassemble the first few times. However I am not a fan of it as a primary EDC or for home protection if a better one can be had. Just my personal opinion.

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[Cheapshooter]

The Hi-Point C9 is a great choice for a "move up" gun for your son. By no means the best choice for CCW, although it can be done. They are very accurate, and reliable. It's not the best looking gun in the case, but there are a few from makers more "accepted" by self proclaimed experts that are just about as ugly. And finally, where the detractors are bound to say a Hi-Point would never be an heirloom to pass down in the future like they think their near, or above $1000 would be, why not? They have a no questioned warranty that covers every part of the gun, and to who ever owns it at a given time. Not just the original owner. So the original might not be passed down, but if it isn't, a new one can be.

If you haven't seen these videos, here is a little fun, and interesting viewing.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...20FB9BE30284ED


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...F5CECBC53983E8

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...A4229D8FD854B6

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...8A05B0A4A0E8E9


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQU_icf92f8

[Grant D]

I have a Hi-Point 9mm. carbine that is a lot of fun to shoot. I didn't buy it to pass down, just to shoot.
It's like my ten year old 2004 white Ford F150 XL plain Jane pick up.
It's not pretty but it gets me back and forth to work every day.

[campingnights]

Hilarious videos Cheapshooter. I loved them. I didn't realise the barrel was fixed to the frame instead of floating. We didn't field strip my son's as the slide wouldn't lock back far enough to drive out the pin (he eventually solved that problem somehow). I like arrangement as it helps accuracy, kinda like the PPK. I'm thinking of a Hi Point 45 for next summer. I'm gonna keep my Beretta, but I'm definately a Hi Point convert for the future.

[AustinTX]

Hi-Point actually doesn't encourage people to disassemble the guns for cleaning. Cleaning the bore after shooting and occasionally blowing the internals out with an aerosol solvent (like Gunscrubber), followed by lubrication, is enough.

http://www.hipointfirearmsforums.com...pistol-279499/

[Cheapshooter]

Thanks AustinTx. I remember reading that, but didn't want to post it without the link to back it up. I have never seen a need to take my Hi-Point apart for cleaning, or lubricating. Pretty much just do as that link stated even before I read it.

Campingnights, I just picked ked up a used Hi-Point JHP (45) at my Little Shop of Horrors (to my bank account) a couple months ago. I haven't had a chance to try it, but judging by my experience with my C9, and a friend's JHP I am looking forward to some fun, and accurate shooting.

[campingnights]

AustinTx, generally I agree with that, but I like to disassemble a new firearm to degunk it and remove any manufacturing crud left in it. Looking at the Hi Point, I don't see any reason why a bore snake and judicious use of Fireclean and a q-tip wouldn't be sufficient for normal cleaning, unless I drag it in the dirt for half a mile beind the car!
Cheapshooter, if you get out and shoot that 45 I'd like to hear what you think of it.

[AustinTX]

AustinTx, generally I agree with that, but I like to disassemble a new firearm to degunk it and remove any manufacturing crud left in it.

That's fair. It just seems that a lot of people think they have to take it apart every time they clean it. On top of being a pain, I'd be reluctant to drive out tight-fitting pins very often, lest the fit start to loosen up.

[jaytothekizzay]

I bought a hipoint about 10 years ago as my first gun. I could never get it to run... I ended up giving it to my cousin. After a quick trip back to hipoint it was returned to him. Its been running flawlessly for about ten years now... never been taken apart. Just bore snaked , shot with aerosol gun scrubber, occasional bronze brush, compressed air, and clp

[5whiskey]

Not a Hi-Point fan, and yes I have shot them. I will say that in my experience they typically run pretty well.

[SSGN_Doc]

Can't say I'm a fan of Hi-points, because I hate the way they look and I hate the way they feel. But, they do seem to work well. I would consider a carbine of theirs if they had a good factory hi-cap mag.

[TimSr]

Poor people need to defend themselves too.

[mr bolo]

from what Ive seen, they seem to be decent pistols for the money, looks like something that could be used to supply resistance fighters or dropped behind enemy lines like they did during WWII with the Liberator pistols, the HP is actually a better fighting / defense gun than those cheap Liberators

I wouldnt mind having one , it looks like it would make a good camp gun or something to have in the boonies or carry in your ATV as a back up

[James K]

Myth aside, Liberators were never actually dropped to anyone and apparently none were ever used against an enemy in WWII. All but a few were destroyed after the war, making them a collectors' item today. The Hi Point is a lot better, though whether it will become a collectible only time will tell.

Jim

[Super Sneaky Steve]

Hi-Points may be good value guns and I wouldn't say anything bad about them especially after the torture tests I've seen them go through on youtube, but when it comes to buying guns I prefer something nice that I'll be happy with forever.

So maybe for his next gun I'd suggest saving your change for a few months or instead of buying beer save up for a quality firearm. If you get a good one his kids and grandkids will be enjoying them for many years down the road.

[campingnights]

Sneeky, my son is married and probably older than you, and I don't drink beer.

[dsk]

Myth aside, Liberators were never actually dropped to anyone and apparently none were ever used against an enemy in WWII. All but a few were destroyed after the war, making them a collectors' item today.

My understanding is that a few were dropped over the Philippines, but the majority of them were dropped in Europe... directly over the North Sea.

It's my observation that handgun enthusiasts can be divided into two major groups: the traditionalists who decry anything made of plastic or stamped steel, and the modernists who want everything that's tactical and cutting-edge. The Hi Points are neither. If you like your guns to be polished blued steel and wood you're going to sneer at them. If you like your guns ninja-black and stamped with the official SEAL Team Six™ badge of approval you're going to laugh at them. But if you simply can't afford a $500 firearm, or if you're the kind of buyer who just wants a gun to keep inside the house or car and you're not a gun enthusiast then it's a lot harder to argue against them, and if you find yourelf on the wrong end of the barrel you don't want to argue with one either. There's a market for $29.95 electric drills for guys who just need to drill a hole every once in awhile, and there's certainly a market for $149.95 pistols as well.

[Cheapshooter]

But if you simply can't afford a $500 firearm, or if you're the kind of buyer who just wants a gun to keep inside the house or car and you're not a gun enthusiast then it's a lot harder to argue against them

Then you have my group of gun enthusiasts.
I can afford $500 and above for a gun I decide I want.
I am a gun, and shooting enthusiast, and don't need, or want Gun to just keep in the house or car.
I bought a Hi-Point C9 just for the heck of it, and probably most of all to see if it could possibly be as bad as all the hype from the haters.
I then found out that they are reliable, accurate guns that are actually as much fun to shoot as any.
That of course leads to stage two, a second Hi-Point. This time a JHP (45acp). I might even have to pick up a JCP (40 S&W) if a used one pops up at a decent price.

[James K]

One sure thing about the bigger caliber Hi Points, you don't need weights to hold them steady.

Hi, dsk, Some Liberators were used in the Philippines, to arm local police until they could get better weapons, but none were air dropped. After the war, the ones in England were taken from depots, put in barges and dumped at sea. IIRC, it was the Channel, though, not the North Sea. The whole thing was a silly idea, inspired by a fictional novel, that ordinary people would find a gun and suddenly become fierce warriors, rising up against the occupiers. Nope.

Jim

[dsk]

BTW I actually shot a Liberator pistol once. They are PAINFUL to shoot, because the breechblock is closed by spring tension alone (there's a "gate" that also comes down to keep the cartridge in place), and it pops out when fired and then traps the web of your hand when it returns. You quickly learn to hold the thing really low on the grip. It also is horribly inaccurate, as the bullet simply rattles down the oversized, unrifled barrel and keyholes in a target placed just ten feet away. They were only meant to be shoved directly in someone's face and then pull the trigger. If that somehow didn't do the job you were in serious trouble.

[Doyle]

I don't drink beer

You poor fellow.