Tokarev TT33: trigger no reset w/mag out?

jmstr · September 20, 2016, 03:27 PM

Hello everyone,

New-to-me TT-33 and I am doing my due-diligence of cleaning/lubing/inspecting before I take it to the range. Snapcaps to check for hammer follow, etc.

I ordered some spare parts to have on hand for the future, as I want to get them before 20 years pass and they aren't available. Specifically, a hammer/sear pack.

In the process of my cleaning and inspection of all parts I noticed something that seems wrong to me, but I don't know if I should worry, and/or what to look at to fix it.

Specifically, with one of the two hammer packs the trigger won't reset if the mag is out.

With either hammer pack and the magazine in, all moves 'normally' [the slide moves the hammer back, finger back on trigger, let slide go forward, release trigger to the 'reset' point, fire, repeat]. The trigger resets with no problems.

With one of the hammer packs and the magazine out, the trigger won't return to firing position. The disconnector seems to be staying 'down', until the mag is pushed in. However, the mag seems to touch the sear and not the disconnector.

I've done a full on parts swap, piece by piece, and I can't tell if it is only the sear, or the sear and disconnector.

Any suggestions?

Anyone I don't know that you can recommend to send the trigger pack off to [other than Bill Springfield/trigger works- I already am familiar with him]?

Since this only happens with the mag out, should I not worry and just call it a mag disconnect? [even though it is the SAME design as the other trigger pack- and isn't a true mag disconnect.]

Is this a risk of doubling or other misfiring issues?

Clark · September 21, 2016, 01:04 PM

I don't know if this will help at all, but my house is a Tokarev junk yard and 213 type 9mm Tokarevs have some parts that appear to me to be redesigned only to prevent interchangeability with other Tokarevs. Especially the hammer assemblies.

T. O'Heir · September 21, 2016, 01:44 PM

Parts like hammers and triggers require fitting to work properly in most pistols. Absolute WHAG though.
This is just about the only thing on the net that might help. No on-line manuals anywhere. Even on Bigger Hammer. http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/field-strip/tt33-ttc/
However, Gunparts is listing a manual at $5.99 that might be worth buying.

Model12Win · September 21, 2016, 03:13 PM

Did you clean the pistol and the new trigger pack first?

September 20, 2016, 03:27 PM	#1
jmstr Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2001 Location: San Joaquin Valley, CA Posts: 1,304	Tokarev TT33: trigger no reset w/mag out? Hello everyone, New-to-me TT-33 and I am doing my due-diligence of cleaning/lubing/inspecting before I take it to the range. Snapcaps to check for hammer follow, etc. I ordered some spare parts to have on hand for the future, as I want to get them before 20 years pass and they aren't available. Specifically, a hammer/sear pack. In the process of my cleaning and inspection of all parts I noticed something that seems wrong to me, but I don't know if I should worry, and/or what to look at to fix it. Specifically, with one of the two hammer packs the trigger won't reset if the mag is out. With either hammer pack and the magazine in, all moves 'normally' [the slide moves the hammer back, finger back on trigger, let slide go forward, release trigger to the 'reset' point, fire, repeat]. The trigger resets with no problems. With one of the hammer packs and the magazine out, the trigger won't return to firing position. The disconnector seems to be staying 'down', until the mag is pushed in. However, the mag seems to touch the sear and not the disconnector. I've done a full on parts swap, piece by piece, and I can't tell if it is only the sear, or the sear and disconnector. Any suggestions? Anyone I don't know that you can recommend to send the trigger pack off to [other than Bill Springfield/trigger works- I already am familiar with him]? Since this only happens with the mag out, should I not worry and just call it a mag disconnect? [even though it is the SAME design as the other trigger pack- and isn't a true mag disconnect.] Is this a risk of doubling or other misfiring issues?

September 21, 2016, 01:04 PM	#2
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	I don't know if this will help at all, but my house is a Tokarev junk yard and 213 type 9mm Tokarevs have some parts that appear to me to be redesigned only to prevent interchangeability with other Tokarevs. Especially the hammer assemblies.

September 21, 2016, 01:44 PM	#3
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	Parts like hammers and triggers require fitting to work properly in most pistols. Absolute WHAG though. This is just about the only thing on the net that might help. No on-line manuals anywhere. Even on Bigger Hammer. http://www.m1-garand-rifle.com/field-strip/tt33-ttc/ However, Gunparts is listing a manual at $5.99 that might be worth buying.

September 21, 2016, 03:13 PM	#4
Model12Win Junior member Join Date: October 20, 2012 Posts: 5,854	Did you clean the pistol and the new trigger pack first?