J.P. Sauer & Sonh Revolver

TheNatureBoy · June 16, 2013, 04:19 PM

I purchased a J.P. Sauer & Sohn 45 Colt, nickel plated for $230 the other day from a friend of mine. Its in really good condition. Smooth action with 1 pound of trigger pull. My friend had the pull adjusted when he purchased it years ago. I'm a reloader (rifle) and was wondering if It would be worth it given the fact that I don't intend to shoot it a lot. It will be on my hip when I go hunting or target shooting on the power line that runs down my friends property. Also, what grain bullet do you recommend I purchase if the advice is not to reload. Thanks

#don't know jack squat about revolvers.

Sarge · June 16, 2013, 04:27 PM

The first thing I recommend is that you get that trigger fixed and reset at no less than 4#. If you truly know nothing about revolvers, the last thing you need is a 1# trigger on a sixgun.

A 250 grain SWC at 800+ fps is never a bad choice in a 45 Colt.

TheNatureBoy · June 16, 2013, 04:45 PM

I removed the hash tag "don't know squat about revolvers" because its a little misleading. That statement was in reference to reloading. I've owned a S&W 629 Classic and a Ruger Bisley 44 or 45 caliber (can't remember cause its been a while). Not a expert but not a novice either. I do appreciate the advice about the trigger pull on the other hand. I do intend to do something about that. I also appreciate the advice on the ammo.

Bob Wright · June 16, 2013, 05:45 PM

I will add my approval on the 250 gr. SWC @ 800~900 fps range.

I have a .357 Magnum Hy Hunter made by J.P. Sauer & Sohn. These were successors to the American made Great Western guns made in the late 'Fifties. Good, stout sixguns.

Bob Wright

Sarge · June 16, 2013, 05:57 PM

I've had three of these over the years, two .44's with a .45 Colt between them. The only one that gave me trouble was the last .44, which broke a cylinder bolt spring and could utterly NOT be disassembled and nut-buster, heat, nor any of the standard 'locked threads' remedies had the slightest effect. That one got scrapped for parts.

Overall though, they were nice, strong revolvers with slick actions. All of my Hawes-Sauers shot to the sights to 50 yards or so with 240-250 grain bullets. Execution, bore, finish and consistency of chamber mouths was excellent. I'd buy another and I wish I had kept the .45 Colt.

UncleEd · June 16, 2013, 06:09 PM

I can't remember if the Hawes is built with the old Colt/Ruger actions (three screw) or with the transfer bar system.

If it's the former, just remember to load one, skip a chamber and load 4 more,
then pull hammer all the way back and let it down on the empty chamber.
Do not carry six!

model18 · June 16, 2013, 06:24 PM

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Mine from yrs ago. Wish I still had it but .44's are expensive to shoot if you don't reload.

HighValleyRanch · June 16, 2013, 06:31 PM

NO, NO TRANSFER BAR, so you have to load five.

Do a search on "Hawes Western Marshall"
I have a bunch of threads on my JP Sauer and Sons Hawes six shooter.

These are built HEAVY DUTY!
Mine has a VERY light trigger and is super reliable as well as extremely accurate.
Mine is a .357

But for my .454 Alaskan, I load with trail boss powder for light target loads.
Both for .45 Colt and in the .454 cases.

Good deal on the JP Sauer. They are great guns and way unrated by most.

(IT'S THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM!LOL)

TheNatureBoy · June 17, 2013, 07:03 AM

Thanks for the responses everybody. My friend discussed the loading procedure (load one, skip one and load the other 4) a number of times. Thanks again.

June 16, 2013, 04:19 PM	#1
TheNatureBoy Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2007 Posts: 1,204	J.P. Sauer & Sonh Revolver I purchased a J.P. Sauer & Sohn 45 Colt, nickel plated for $230 the other day from a friend of mine. Its in really good condition. Smooth action with 1 pound of trigger pull. My friend had the pull adjusted when he purchased it years ago. I'm a reloader (rifle) and was wondering if It would be worth it given the fact that I don't intend to shoot it a lot. It will be on my hip when I go hunting or target shooting on the power line that runs down my friends property. Also, what grain bullet do you recommend I purchase if the advice is not to reload. Thanks #don't know jack squat about revolvers.

June 16, 2013, 04:27 PM	#2
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,495	The first thing I recommend is that you get that trigger fixed and reset at no less than 4#. If you truly know nothing about revolvers, the last thing you need is a 1# trigger on a sixgun. A 250 grain SWC at 800+ fps is never a bad choice in a 45 Colt. __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

June 16, 2013, 05:57 PM	#5
Sarge Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2002 Location: MO Posts: 5,495	I've had three of these over the years, two .44's with a .45 Colt between them. The only one that gave me trouble was the last .44, which broke a cylinder bolt spring and could utterly NOT be disassembled and nut-buster, heat, nor any of the standard 'locked threads' remedies had the slightest effect. That one got scrapped for parts. Overall though, they were nice, strong revolvers with slick actions. All of my Hawes-Sauers shot to the sights to 50 yards or so with 240-250 grain bullets. Execution, bore, finish and consistency of chamber mouths was excellent. I'd buy another and I wish I had kept the .45 Colt. __________________ People were smarter before the Internet, or imbeciles were harder to notice.

June 16, 2013, 06:24 PM	#7
model18 Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2006 Posts: 419	Hawes .44 SA [/URL] Mine from yrs ago. Wish I still had it but .44's are expensive to shoot if you don't reload.

June 16, 2013, 06:31 PM	#8
HighValleyRanch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2005 Posts: 4,135	NO, NO TRANSFER BAR, so you have to load five. Do a search on "Hawes Western Marshall" I have a bunch of threads on my JP Sauer and Sons Hawes six shooter. These are built HEAVY DUTY! Mine has a VERY light trigger and is super reliable as well as extremely accurate. Mine is a .357 But for my .454 Alaskan, I load with trail boss powder for light target loads. Both for .45 Colt and in the .454 cases. Good deal on the JP Sauer. They are great guns and way unrated by most. (IT'S THE ONE ON THE BOTTOM!LOL) __________________ From the sweet grass to the slaughter house; From birth until death; We travel between these two eternities........from 'Broken Trail"

June 16, 2013, 04:45 PM	#3
TheNatureBoy Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2007 Posts: 1,204	I removed the hash tag "don't know squat about revolvers" because its a little misleading. That statement was in reference to reloading. I've owned a S&W 629 Classic and a Ruger Bisley 44 or 45 caliber (can't remember cause its been a while). Not a expert but not a novice either. I do appreciate the advice about the trigger pull on the other hand. I do intend to do something about that. I also appreciate the advice on the ammo.

June 16, 2013, 05:45 PM	#4
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 3,005	I will add my approval on the 250 gr. SWC @ 800~900 fps range. I have a .357 Magnum Hy Hunter made by J.P. Sauer & Sohn. These were successors to the American made Great Western guns made in the late 'Fifties. Good, stout sixguns. Bob Wright

June 16, 2013, 06:09 PM	#6
UncleEd Senior Member Join Date: April 13, 2013 Location: N. Georgia Posts: 1,150	I can't remember if the Hawes is built with the old Colt/Ruger actions (three screw) or with the transfer bar system. If it's the former, just remember to load one, skip a chamber and load 4 more, then pull hammer all the way back and let it down on the empty chamber. Do not carry six!

June 17, 2013, 07:03 AM	#9
TheNatureBoy Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2007 Posts: 1,204	Thanks for the responses everybody. My friend discussed the loading procedure (load one, skip one and load the other 4) a number of times. Thanks again.