sighting rifle at 50yards

Grof · April 18, 2010, 10:56 PM

can someone help me here get idea how to do this , how to callculate clicks
(I have bushnell 4200 and it's 1/4 click).
I know @ 100 yards if I am off 2" it's 8 clicks, how many is at 50 yards can someone explain this. I want to sight it zero at 200 yards.
thanks.

arizona98tj · April 18, 2010, 10:59 PM

You would double the clicks for 50 yards. In other words, a click at 50 yards will only move your point of impact by 1/8" vs the 1/4" change at 100 yards.

Beentown71 · April 18, 2010, 10:59 PM

Deleted...slow

Beentown

Grof · April 18, 2010, 11:37 PM

Thanks Arizona98tj, so if I double the clicks it will give me same results on 100 yards, now I have Idea how this works.

Beentown71 ,Thanks also I am not expert just trying to get some help from people who know more than I do. great help

javven · April 18, 2010, 11:49 PM

I've always found that if I 'zero' at 50, I'm a bit high at 100 yards. I shoot some of the flatter-shooting calibers. I imagine this is due to height of the scope above the rifle. Thus I prefer about an inch low at 50, then I work on grouping at 100yds (this is where I evaluate ammo / reloads) and finally, a good zero session at the rifle's intended zero-yardage.

gb_in_ga · April 18, 2010, 11:52 PM

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I want to sight it zero at 200 yards.

You need to keep in mind that just because you have your rifle sighted in, zeroed at 50 yards doesn't mean that it is zeroed in at 200 yards. You need to take into account bullet drop, and that varies from rifle to rifle, caliber to caliber, and load to load. You can get into the ballpark zeroing at 50 yards, but there's no substitute for actually sighting in at the desired range.

Grof · April 19, 2010, 12:20 AM

thanks guys,
I just want to come close at 50 yards and than move to 100 yards and have it there 1-2" high so I am good for any range from 50-200 yards

javven · April 19, 2010, 01:23 AM

Usually the MFG will publish velocity for a load somewhere. Take that and the BC / SD values from the manufacturer of the bullet to calculate your bullet drop. You can do this either with MFG table / published data OR you can use one of many online programs to do this.

rshanneck2002 · April 19, 2010, 06:05 AM

Go to the Remington website and download Remington Shoot,it will give you very good basics of bullet impact at various ranges. Have used it for several cal. for several yrs., if they still have it on there. Its very simple to use and covers just about every american cartridge, also euro cals.

K8vf · April 19, 2010, 10:07 PM

http://www.handloads.org/calc/index.html

bamaranger · April 20, 2010, 01:12 PM

That oughta get you over 2" at 50 yds. But......if I wanted a 200 yd zero, I'd sure try and shoot at 200.

That said, I don't have access to a 200 yd range w/ a bench. My std drill is to zero all my full size deer rifle ctgs 2" high at 100. That puts me a tad low at 200, but keeps the bullet closer to the line of sight at intermediate ranges.

The old 3" high at 100 puts the bullet to high at midrange to suit me.

mrawesome22 · April 20, 2010, 07:21 PM

You'll need a lot of data to be sure that where you hit at 50 is going to have you zero at 200. MV, BC, sight height, barrel length...

Calculators will get you close, but you'll just have to go out and shoot to figure it out.

Beentown71 · April 20, 2010, 08:11 PM

Grof,

Wasn't sayin you were slow. Just my connection. Good luck and sorry for the mix up.

Beentown

Grof · April 21, 2010, 05:22 PM

no worrys somethimes I am to slow or to fast.

sc928porsche · April 22, 2010, 12:14 AM

Sight in at 25yds. Check at 100yds. Finish sighting a 200. If you want it sighted in at 200yds, then move it to 200, otherwise you will be guessing. For my flat shooting stuff, I sight at 200, otherwise, I use 100.

blume357 · April 22, 2010, 07:16 AM

At 100 yards each click will move the point of aim 1/4" (4x.25"=1")
(this is how you get the 8 clicks equals 2" at 100 yards)

One minute of angle at 50 yards is equal to 1/2". That's the best way to think about it... (So to move the point of aim/impact 1" you need 8 clicks)

One minute of angle at 25 yards is equal to 1/4"
(to move the point of aim/impact 1" you need 16 clicks)

One minute of angle at 200 yards is equal to 2"
to move the point of aim/ impact 1" you need 2 clicks)

it depends on the caliber of round you are firing as to how much drop, if any you might get between 50 and 200 yards... it could be close to zero, which is what I think you are thinking.

Grof · April 22, 2010, 05:19 PM

blume 357,
well explained , thanks

April 18, 2010, 10:56 PM	#1
Grof Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Posts: 65	sighting rifle at 50yards can someone help me here get idea how to do this , how to callculate clicks (I have bushnell 4200 and it's 1/4 click). I know @ 100 yards if I am off 2" it's 8 clicks, how many is at 50 yards can someone explain this. I want to sight it zero at 200 yards. thanks.

April 18, 2010, 10:59 PM	#3
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	Deleted...slow Beentown __________________ Μολὼν λάβε Time for the Mall Ninja list: Beretta 92fs, Springer XD9, High Standard Model HB, RRA bull bbl...aw heck with it time to go plink

April 19, 2010, 10:07 PM	#10
K8vf Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Iosco county Michigan Posts: 39	Use this. Change values to get what you need. http://www.handloads.org/calc/index.html

April 20, 2010, 01:12 PM	#11
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,800	16 clicks That oughta get you over 2" at 50 yds. But......if I wanted a 200 yd zero, I'd sure try and shoot at 200. That said, I don't have access to a 200 yd range w/ a bench. My std drill is to zero all my full size deer rifle ctgs 2" high at 100. That puts me a tad low at 200, but keeps the bullet closer to the line of sight at intermediate ranges. The old 3" high at 100 puts the bullet to high at midrange to suit me.

April 20, 2010, 08:11 PM	#13
Beentown71 Senior Member Join Date: March 1, 2009 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,560	Grof, Wasn't sayin you were slow. Just my connection. Good luck and sorry for the mix up. Beentown __________________ Μολὼν λάβε Time for the Mall Ninja list: Beretta 92fs, Springer XD9, High Standard Model HB, RRA bull bbl...aw heck with it time to go plink

April 18, 2010, 10:59 PM	#2
arizona98tj Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 980	You would double the clicks for 50 yards. In other words, a click at 50 yards will only move your point of impact by 1/8" vs the 1/4" change at 100 yards.

April 18, 2010, 11:37 PM	#4
Grof Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Posts: 65	Thanks Arizona98tj, so if I double the clicks it will give me same results on 100 yards, now I have Idea how this works. Beentown71 ,Thanks also I am not expert just trying to get some help from people who know more than I do. great help

April 18, 2010, 11:49 PM	#5
javven Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Posts: 195	I've always found that if I 'zero' at 50, I'm a bit high at 100 yards. I shoot some of the flatter-shooting calibers. I imagine this is due to height of the scope above the rifle. Thus I prefer about an inch low at 50, then I work on grouping at 100yds (this is where I evaluate ammo / reloads) and finally, a good zero session at the rifle's intended zero-yardage.

April 19, 2010, 12:20 AM	#7
Grof Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Posts: 65	thanks guys, I just want to come close at 50 yards and than move to 100 yards and have it there 1-2" high so I am good for any range from 50-200 yards

April 19, 2010, 01:23 AM	#8
javven Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2009 Posts: 195	Usually the MFG will publish velocity for a load somewhere. Take that and the BC / SD values from the manufacturer of the bullet to calculate your bullet drop. You can do this either with MFG table / published data OR you can use one of many online programs to do this.

April 19, 2010, 06:05 AM	#9
rshanneck2002 Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2008 Posts: 194	Go to the Remington website and download Remington Shoot,it will give you very good basics of bullet impact at various ranges. Have used it for several cal. for several yrs., if they still have it on there. Its very simple to use and covers just about every american cartridge, also euro cals.

April 20, 2010, 07:21 PM	#12
mrawesome22 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2005 Location: Ohio, Appalachia's foothills. Posts: 3,779	You'll need a lot of data to be sure that where you hit at 50 is going to have you zero at 200. MV, BC, sight height, barrel length... Calculators will get you close, but you'll just have to go out and shoot to figure it out.

April 21, 2010, 05:22 PM	#14
Grof Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Posts: 65	no worrys somethimes I am to slow or to fast.

April 22, 2010, 12:14 AM	#15
sc928porsche Senior Member Join Date: May 29, 2008 Location: now living in alabama Posts: 2,433	Sight in at 25yds. Check at 100yds. Finish sighting a 200. If you want it sighted in at 200yds, then move it to 200, otherwise you will be guessing. For my flat shooting stuff, I sight at 200, otherwise, I use 100.

April 22, 2010, 07:16 AM	#16
blume357 Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2005 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 3,943	So, your scope is calibrated to 1/4 of a minute of angle... (MOA) At 100 yards each click will move the point of aim 1/4" (4x.25"=1") (this is how you get the 8 clicks equals 2" at 100 yards) One minute of angle at 50 yards is equal to 1/2". That's the best way to think about it... (So to move the point of aim/impact 1" you need 8 clicks) One minute of angle at 25 yards is equal to 1/4" (to move the point of aim/impact 1" you need 16 clicks) One minute of angle at 200 yards is equal to 2" to move the point of aim/ impact 1" you need 2 clicks) it depends on the caliber of round you are firing as to how much drop, if any you might get between 50 and 200 yards... it could be close to zero, which is what I think you are thinking.

April 22, 2010, 05:19 PM	#17
Grof Member Join Date: February 27, 2008 Posts: 65	blume 357, well explained , thanks