brass question

mrdux · July 14, 2009, 01:48 PM

can I make 25/06 brass from 30/06?

rgitzlaff · July 14, 2009, 01:51 PM

Can't you find .25-06 brass anywhere? I believe all you would have to do is run a .30-06 case through your .25-06 full length die, then trim to length.

mrdux · July 14, 2009, 02:24 PM

yes i can find 25/06 brass but i have about 300 30/06 cases and no 30/06. Now I guess i could tell the wife that since I have that many 30/06 cases that I need another rifle. But I just don't want to the that "Buzzard Squock" come out of her mouth.. It if very loud

Farmland · July 14, 2009, 02:44 PM

The simple answer is yes. though it doesn't look it is as easy as running them through a 25-06 die.

In any event here is a nice link I found when considering doing the same thing. It is an interesting read.

http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch.../msg00245.html

mrdux · July 14, 2009, 02:59 PM

farmland...Thanks for the post. That is some good reading.

Farmland · July 14, 2009, 03:10 PM

Your welcome from another 25-06 fan with tons of 30-06 brass. Though I do have a 30-06.

GeauxTide · July 14, 2009, 03:27 PM

Have been using '06 brass in my 6.5-06 for many years. I use Imperial Graphite lube on the necks and stroke it down.

Scorch · July 14, 2009, 05:11 PM

One word of advice: if you make 25-06 brass out of 30-06 brass, check the neck carefully after forming it to make sure the brass in the neck area is not too thick. Not typically a problem with commercial brass, but a potential problem with military brass.

DWARREN123 · July 14, 2009, 05:27 PM

Trade or sell the 30-06 brass and get 25-06 brass. Easiest way.

ForneyRider · July 15, 2009, 11:49 AM

I have a handful of .25-06 and .257 Weatherby. Free to good home.

mrdux · July 15, 2009, 11:58 AM

Forney...I send you a PM

FM12 · July 15, 2009, 12:05 PM

As mentioned previously, neck may be too thick. An easier conversion is the .270 Win to 25-06. If you have .270 dies also, might run the 30-06 thru the .270 die first, may save some "Grunt" work.

Lube the case body well, no lube on the neck though. I useImperial sizeing wax, YMMV.

mrdux · July 15, 2009, 12:11 PM

FM12... just ordered some Imperial sizeing wax, from midway. One way or another I am going to try to work up a load for this 25/06
FM12. Isn't the 270win just a little longer than the 25/06? I guess I would have to cut the 270win down a little.
But I seen were forneyrider has some that are free to a good home. Am I promise to love them, squeeze them, hold them polish them, load them and then shoot them )))))

FM12 · July 16, 2009, 05:27 PM

WHICHEVER you reform, be sure and trim them to minimum recommended length!

**Unclenick** · July 16, 2009, 06:09 PM

The .270 is longer only to the extent that the further inward slope of the shoulder still has the same neck length on it. Probably not a necessary thing to have done, as the 25-06 doesn't do it. No matter. You'll have to trim after squirting brass into a narrow diameter anyway.

The warning to watch the neck wall thickness is to be taken seriously, as an over maximum neck thickness can jam in a tight chamber making for very high pressure. Size the case of your choice. Use an inside neck reamer to remove all but the last couple thousandths of excess brass. Do that last part with an outside neck turning tool to ensure even neck thickness, then run it over a .25-06 expander to get the ID right.

mrdux · July 17, 2009, 08:57 AM

well I think I just buy some more 25/06 Brass.
Thanks everyone for the help and advice

**Unclenick** · July 17, 2009, 09:08 AM

Sorry if it was discouraging. If you already own most of the right tools, it's no big deal to do, but if you don't, the savings gets hard to realize. It's more reasonable to undertake the expense of tooling up if you have a chambering you can't buy the brass ready made for at competitive prices.

If you're not going to get a .30-'06, look around to see if you can trade the brass for what you want, or sell it to help buy what you want?

mrdux · July 17, 2009, 11:31 AM

Well i just thought that since I had some 30/06 brass and would just try it, But i will just try to sell or trade them.

July 14, 2009, 01:48 PM	#1
mrdux Member Join Date: July 9, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 15	brass question can I make 25/06 brass from 30/06?

July 14, 2009, 05:11 PM	#8
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,249	One word of advice: if you make 25-06 brass out of 30-06 brass, check the neck carefully after forming it to make sure the brass in the neck area is not too thick. Not typically a problem with commercial brass, but a potential problem with military brass. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

July 16, 2009, 06:09 PM	#15
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,738	The .270 is longer only to the extent that the further inward slope of the shoulder still has the same neck length on it. Probably not a necessary thing to have done, as the 25-06 doesn't do it. No matter. You'll have to trim after squirting brass into a narrow diameter anyway. The warning to watch the neck wall thickness is to be taken seriously, as an over maximum neck thickness can jam in a tight chamber making for very high pressure. Size the case of your choice. Use an inside neck reamer to remove all but the last couple thousandths of excess brass. Do that last part with an outside neck turning tool to ensure even neck thickness, then run it over a .25-06 expander to get the ID right. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

July 17, 2009, 09:08 AM	#17
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,738	Sorry if it was discouraging. If you already own most of the right tools, it's no big deal to do, but if you don't, the savings gets hard to realize. It's more reasonable to undertake the expense of tooling up if you have a chambering you can't buy the brass ready made for at competitive prices. If you're not going to get a .30-'06, look around to see if you can trade the brass for what you want, or sell it to help buy what you want? __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

July 14, 2009, 01:51 PM	#2
rgitzlaff Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2006 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 525	Can't you find .25-06 brass anywhere? I believe all you would have to do is run a .30-06 case through your .25-06 full length die, then trim to length.

July 14, 2009, 02:24 PM	#3
mrdux Member Join Date: July 9, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 15	yes i can find 25/06 brass but i have about 300 30/06 cases and no 30/06. Now I guess i could tell the wife that since I have that many 30/06 cases that I need another rifle. But I just don't want to the that "Buzzard Squock" come out of her mouth.. It if very loud

July 14, 2009, 02:44 PM	#4
Farmland Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2009 Posts: 869	The simple answer is yes. though it doesn't look it is as easy as running them through a 25-06 die. In any event here is a nice link I found when considering doing the same thing. It is an interesting read. http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch.../msg00245.html

July 14, 2009, 02:59 PM	#5
mrdux Member Join Date: July 9, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 15	farmland...Thanks for the post. That is some good reading.

July 14, 2009, 03:10 PM	#6
Farmland Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2009 Posts: 869	Your welcome from another 25-06 fan with tons of 30-06 brass. Though I do have a 30-06.

July 14, 2009, 03:27 PM	#7
GeauxTide Senior Member Join Date: April 20, 2009 Location: Helena, AL Posts: 4,514	Have been using '06 brass in my 6.5-06 for many years. I use Imperial Graphite lube on the necks and stroke it down.

July 14, 2009, 05:27 PM	#9
DWARREN123 Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2006 Location: BETWEEN TN & KY Posts: 1,758	Trade or sell the 30-06 brass and get 25-06 brass. Easiest way.

July 15, 2009, 11:49 AM	#10
ForneyRider Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2007 Location: Forney, TX Posts: 725	I have a handful of .25-06 and .257 Weatherby. Free to good home.

July 15, 2009, 11:58 AM	#11
mrdux Member Join Date: July 9, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 15	Forney...I send you a PM

July 15, 2009, 12:05 PM	#12
FM12 Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2007 Location: Monroeville, Alabama Posts: 1,683	As mentioned previously, neck may be too thick. An easier conversion is the .270 Win to 25-06. If you have .270 dies also, might run the 30-06 thru the .270 die first, may save some "Grunt" work. Lube the case body well, no lube on the neck though. I useImperial sizeing wax, YMMV.

July 15, 2009, 12:11 PM	#13
mrdux Member Join Date: July 9, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 15	FM12... just ordered some Imperial sizeing wax, from midway. One way or another I am going to try to work up a load for this 25/06 FM12. Isn't the 270win just a little longer than the 25/06? I guess I would have to cut the 270win down a little. But I seen were forneyrider has some that are free to a good home. Am I promise to love them, squeeze them, hold them polish them, load them and then shoot them )))))

July 16, 2009, 05:27 PM	#14
FM12 Senior Member Join Date: February 5, 2007 Location: Monroeville, Alabama Posts: 1,683	WHICHEVER you reform, be sure and trim them to minimum recommended length!

July 17, 2009, 08:57 AM	#16
mrdux Member Join Date: July 9, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 15	well I think I just buy some more 25/06 Brass. Thanks everyone for the help and advice

July 17, 2009, 11:31 AM	#18
mrdux Member Join Date: July 9, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 15	Well i just thought that since I had some 30/06 brass and would just try it, But i will just try to sell or trade them.