which fiberoptic - without tritium - sights work well and are very robust (Glock 19)?

[Para Bellum]

Hello!

I am a game warden and hence out in the woods a lot. My sidearm mostly is a Glock 19. I want fiberoptic sights for that (red front, green rear).
If it is dark I wear a headlamp and use a Light/Laser-Module if my sidearm is needed.

Which fiberoptic sight - without tritium - would you recommend?
It should be very robust, and
it should also work without light as a good "black" sight.

Thank you.
PB

[Shoots Left]

TruGlo TFX Pro meets your requirements and I've had good luck with them.

[Para Bellum]

I do not want tritium, thank you.
And I do not want to discuss tritium.

[HighValleyRanch]

I have the HiVIz front fiber optic on my Glocks. I use a unique post sight for my rear, but have also combined the HiViz with a straight Eight ledge rear sight. It's lasted for years, so is pretty robust. You can also get a Henie FO front and ledge rear combo at their site.

https://www.heinie.com/3155l-50-gloc...tic-front.html

[jmr40]

I find the factory sights work just fine. The big white front dot and large rear U-shaped white outline work well enough in low light or bright light. Some criticize them because they are plastic. But I've never heard of one breaking.

I've seen some 20+ year old guns that showed some wear on the front sight from being placed in and out of holsters tens of thousands of times. I've seen or read of several fiber optic sights breaking.

I don't care much for night sights either. If it's dark enough to see the night sights, you can't see what you're shooting at without some other light source. A weapon mounted light, or headlamp is a better option IMO.

I have several Glocks that came with factory night sights. As they age, (about 10 years) the sights are useless. The gunsmith I use has a box full of factory sights he has removed over the years. He charges me $20 to put factory sights back on my guns with dead sights.

[wild cat mccane]

Dawson are usually the go to and are coming factory on a lot now.

Also decide your diameter pref. There are two standard sizes

[Sharkbite]

I dont think “robust” and “fiber optic” go together very well. Ive seen a bunch break during just range use. On a duty gun with the bumps and bruises i don't see them holding up.

The good news is the fiber optic part is super simple to replace as long as the metal housing is not damaged.

[Aguila Blanca]

I agree that "robust" does not belong in the same sentence as fiber optic. Let's face it -- a fiber optic sight is a glass or plastic tube -- basically like a large strand of fiberglass. It works by gathering light that impinges along the sides and reflecting/refracting it along the length so it can be seen by the shooter. They are inherently fragile.

The other thing about them is that they require ambient light to function. They work moderately in low light, but they don't work at all in darkness. They can't. So if night shooting is a primary consideration, IMHO fiber optic sights aren't a good choice.

[wild cat mccane]

True. But he did ask.

Dawson is standard option and not much to complain about, if at all.

Truglow and HiViz are more enclosed.

[TunnelRat]

I have Dawson sights on my Staccato C2 and P. The fiber optic fronts are still doing fine after thousands of rounds. If the fiber optic falls out you can still use the front sight. I do have a spare section of fiber optic rod in the event the rods break.

[Sharkbite]

There is a reason companies like Wilson (i have a EDC X9) provide spare fiber optic inserts with their sights. Those companies KNOW the rods will break or fall out and need to be replaced.

NOT what i want in a duty/fighting pistol.

[TunnelRat]

Sure, but to be fair the rods are cheap so there really isn’t a reason not to provide them. Again, I’ve gone thousands of rounds with pistols and not had the rods break, and again the front sight is still usable if the rod does break.

My bigger complaint about fiber optic sights is they don’t really stand out unless you’re in bright sun. Indoors, outside with an overhang, they “glow” a little, but not a lot. For my use case that doesn’t work that well. That said I don’t remove them on pistols that come with them. Most of my pistols these days have red dots, and the ones that don’t either have fiber optics or something like a Trijicon HD just to have some contrast on the front sight.

[Shadow9mm]

This feels like DEJAVU, almost identical to your post from last year https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=618167

My recommendation is the same as last time, The Truglow fiber optic look pretty nice, Very well protected fibers. Big fan of the red front green rears. https://www.glockstore.com/TruGlo-Fi...1&custcol9=112

[wild cat mccane]

Look into LPA of Italy.

Their fiber set come on some nice guns. Thinking my Q5 for example.

The dot bulb was pretty sturdy when i cut mine out from red to green.

[stagpanther]

My eyesight is such that I have trouble with any handgun that I have to hold out in front of me with extended arms. So I went through my "gotta replace the sights on all my glocks" phase and bought all kinds of tubes and doodads to replace the stock sights. At the end of all that I concluded the rinky-dink flat nut attachment for the front sight on the slide just wasn't worth messing with and I was better off sticking with the factory sights--unless I went with an optic of sort which could robustly attach to the slide--also not easy to do since these can be equally rinky-dink plate affairs and take a beating.

[dogtown tom]

Para Bellum Hello!

I am a game warden...

Does your agency not dictate what firearm, sights, lasers, lights, etc you can use?

[Shadow9mm]

you still here Para Bellum?

[Gunfu_blaster]

Truglo fiber optic are the most robust followed by HiViz Litewave sights. Truglos have a fortress finish which is nearly impossible to damage. I have brushed them with steel bristles and not even a scratch. The fiber optics are well protected. Super bright in daylight. I am not fond of tritium. The glow is scattered by my astigmatism. Better to use a WML or a red/green dot.

[Jim Watson]

Brazos is one of the few places selling .060" fibre optic if you want a lot of color up front. But a Dawson set will give you FO at both ends and with a "perfect zero" guarantee. If it doesn't shoot where it looks, measure your target and your sight and they will send you a corrective one.

I haven't lost an insert and only broken one since I started putting a tiny drop of super glue at each post. I have to knock them out to change when they get smoked up.

[Para Bellum]

Thank you all for your time and thought!

[Para Bellum]

And thank you JohnKSa for your detailled info. I appreciate your time!
However, I knew much of it. And I also discussed it with my brother who ist a professor of radiology at an Ivy League medical school (I am just a lawyer and part time LEO).

I just want to eliminate every risk of radiation exposure especially close to my liver. That's it. Might be paranoid, but I feel better that way. And there is a medical reason for the paranoia.

So, thank you all, I will go for the robust TruGlo and try that.

Have a good day!