Always use a holster

**4V50 Gary** · February 17, 2025, 12:40 PM

If you're CCW, always use a holster. When I wore a hip holster, there was a retention device (even used a Safariland 070 triple retention). The fellow seen in this newslink apparently carried his fyre-arm in his pocket and had a ND while adjusting it.

https://www.wftv.com/news/trending/f...A72BTEX2HM3RY/

**Aguila Blanca** · February 17, 2025, 02:05 PM

Ask Plaxico Burresss how holsterless carry worked out for him ...

Shoots Left · February 17, 2025, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguila Blanca

Ask Plaxico Burresss how holsterless carry worked out for him ...

Speaking of...

This is a video of a podcast with a local Houston rapper who, coincidentally, happens to be a gun enthusiast as well. We can all learn from this.

Forward the video to 46:57 if it starts from the beginning...this is gold!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH_QawYGxLA&t=2818s

**4V50 Gary** · February 17, 2025, 04:08 PM

Thanks guys. Didn't see that video before. The grimaced expression on his face is priceless.

**44 AMP** · February 17, 2025, 04:30 PM

Several years old now, but might still be on the web, I was more than amused by the (plainclothes) cop demonstrating to a class of school children handling the Glock "Fou-tay" by shooting himself in the leg when holstering the gun...

Another example, again, from a while back, was the idiot who was "Mexican carry" (no holster) a Glock in his SWEATPANTS!! The gun slipped while he was in line to check out at a store, he grabbed it, and it fired, striking him in the testicles!

!!

The report didn't say, but I suspect he was using ball ammo!

Bottom line, if your pistol does not have a positive safety (aka safety lock) use a good holster! If your gun does have a positive safety lock, use a good holster anyway!!

**4V50 Gary** · February 17, 2025, 05:01 PM

I remember that cop. He was the only one professional enough in the room to be entrusted with a firearm.

**Aguila Blanca** · February 17, 2025, 06:53 PM

Not a cop. The guy in the classroom was an undercover DEA agent, named Lee Paige. He subsequently sued the government over the release of the video, and his case was dismissed.

**44 AMP** · February 17, 2025, 11:17 PM

As far as I'm concerned, if your job title includes the words "Agent", Deputy", or "Officer" you're some level of cop.

**JohnKSa** · February 18, 2025, 02:02 AM

Carry your gun securely and don't play with it.

If it's in a pocket, it needs to be in the pocket alone, with no other items so you don't need to be reaching in there unless it's to save your life.

Unless it has a very positive safety, that can't be inadvertently disengaged, it needs to be in a holster.

Looks like the Houston rapper's gun was a Glock based on the brief glimpse we get of it. It should never have been in a pocket without being in a hard holster that covered the trigger.

Ricklin · February 18, 2025, 05:40 PM

When I left the peoples republic in 2008 among the first things I did was a carry permit, the second thing was a new Glock 19. I had a hell of a time with the Glock early on. Then I bought the 3rd thing, holsters. I did my homework first and purchased holsters that cover the trigger.
The Glock is too much gun for my low risk small town lifestyle, it's just too much hardware to pack always. It's relegated to my backpack (murse) now with a spare mag.
My LCP lives in my R pocket all alone with the exception of the sticky pocket holster it is in.

Skans · February 19, 2025, 12:23 PM

I pocket-carry a diamondback Db9. While it is in a "pocket-holster", the trigger is exposed. And, I acknowledge that even though this is a DAO pistol, there is some risk to pocket-carrying with an exposed trigger. I have to take a bit of extra care while doing this.

bamaranger · February 20, 2025, 03:41 PM

There are certain designs that lend themselves to pocket carry and others not so much. Pretty hard to have an AD with a J-frame DAO for example. Not unusual with some striker fired autos, as many incidents of such exist.

Familiarity breeds carelessness. Ill handled firearms can bite you if you do something stupid or careless. Develop safe /good habits with your gun handling.

Draw your own conclusions on the rapper and the Fed or whatever he was.

Pumpkin · February 20, 2025, 04:54 PM

Always wondered why people used Ball ammo

fastbolt · February 24, 2025, 01:27 PM

There's a practical reason that the use of either an issued or approved holster for an off-duty or Secondary Weapon holster is often a policy issue among LE nowadays.

Ricklin · February 27, 2025, 03:00 PM

As stated earlier, me and old Gaston's baby had a rough patch in our early relationship. My G19 is their approx. 5 lb. trigger. It's really well broken in now, more like 3 lbs.
A good quality IWB holster that covers the trigger saved our relationship.
I like Kydex better for the backpack with a covered trigger of course.
The LCP and I got off to a better start, I bought a sticky pocket holster when I bought the LCP and it lives in it's sticky holder.
I do force myself to put a magazine through the LCP each range trip, it's a nasty little thing recoil wise. I would not want to be on the receiving end.

farmlife247 · March 19, 2025, 05:39 PM

Even with pocket carry, you should always use a pocket holster.

February 17, 2025, 12:40 PM	#1
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,288	Always use a holster If you're CCW, always use a holster. When I wore a hip holster, there was a retention device (even used a Safariland 070 triple retention). The fellow seen in this newslink apparently carried his fyre-arm in his pocket and had a ND while adjusting it. https://www.wftv.com/news/trending/f...A72BTEX2HM3RY/ __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 17, 2025, 02:05 PM	#2
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 19,034	Ask Plaxico Burresss how holsterless carry worked out for him ... __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

February 17, 2025, 04:08 PM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,288	Thanks guys. Didn't see that video before. The grimaced expression on his face is priceless. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 17, 2025, 04:30 PM	#5
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 30,437	Several years old now, but might still be on the web, I was more than amused by the (plainclothes) cop demonstrating to a class of school children handling the Glock "Fou-tay" by shooting himself in the leg when holstering the gun... Another example, again, from a while back, was the idiot who was "Mexican carry" (no holster) a Glock in his SWEATPANTS!! The gun slipped while he was in line to check out at a store, he grabbed it, and it fired, striking him in the testicles! !! The report didn't say, but I suspect he was using ball ammo! Bottom line, if your pistol does not have a positive safety (aka safety lock) use a good holster! If your gun does have a positive safety lock, use a good holster anyway!! __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

February 17, 2025, 05:01 PM	#6
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,288	I remember that cop. He was the only one professional enough in the room to be entrusted with a firearm. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

February 17, 2025, 06:53 PM	#7
Aguila Blanca Staff Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 19,034	Not a cop. The guy in the classroom was an undercover DEA agent, named Lee Paige. He subsequently sued the government over the release of the video, and his case was dismissed. __________________ NRA Life Member / Certified Instructor NRA Chief RSO / CMP RSO 1911 Certified Armorer Jeepaholic

February 17, 2025, 11:17 PM	#8
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 30,437	As far as I'm concerned, if your job title includes the words "Agent", Deputy", or "Officer" you're some level of cop. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

February 18, 2025, 02:02 AM	#9
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 25,560	Carry your gun securely and don't play with it. If it's in a pocket, it needs to be in the pocket alone, with no other items so you don't need to be reaching in there unless it's to save your life. Unless it has a very positive safety, that can't be inadvertently disengaged, it needs to be in a holster. Looks like the Houston rapper's gun was a Glock based on the brief glimpse we get of it. It should never have been in a pocket without being in a hard holster that covered the trigger. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

February 18, 2025, 05:40 PM	#10
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,371	Bought a Glock When I left the peoples republic in 2008 among the first things I did was a carry permit, the second thing was a new Glock 19. I had a hell of a time with the Glock early on. Then I bought the 3rd thing, holsters. I did my homework first and purchased holsters that cover the trigger. The Glock is too much gun for my low risk small town lifestyle, it's just too much hardware to pack always. It's relegated to my backpack (murse) now with a spare mag. My LCP lives in my R pocket all alone with the exception of the sticky pocket holster it is in. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

February 19, 2025, 12:23 PM	#11
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,320	I pocket-carry a diamondback Db9. While it is in a "pocket-holster", the trigger is exposed. And, I acknowledge that even though this is a DAO pistol, there is some risk to pocket-carrying with an exposed trigger. I have to take a bit of extra care while doing this.

February 20, 2025, 03:41 PM	#12
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,788	unfixable There are certain designs that lend themselves to pocket carry and others not so much. Pretty hard to have an AD with a J-frame DAO for example. Not unusual with some striker fired autos, as many incidents of such exist. Familiarity breeds carelessness. Ill handled firearms can bite you if you do something stupid or careless. Develop safe /good habits with your gun handling. Draw your own conclusions on the rapper and the Fed or whatever he was.

February 20, 2025, 04:54 PM	#13
Pumpkin Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2020 Location: Seguin Texas Posts: 981	Always wondered why people used Ball ammo

February 24, 2025, 01:27 PM	#14
fastbolt Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2002 Location: northern CA for a little while longer Posts: 1,965	There's a practical reason that the use of either an issued or approved holster for an off-duty or Secondary Weapon holster is often a policy issue among LE nowadays. __________________ Retired LE - firearms instructor & armorer

February 27, 2025, 03:00 PM	#15
Ricklin Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2008 Location: SW Washington state Posts: 2,371	That pesky safety lever As stated earlier, me and old Gaston's baby had a rough patch in our early relationship. My G19 is their approx. 5 lb. trigger. It's really well broken in now, more like 3 lbs. A good quality IWB holster that covers the trigger saved our relationship. I like Kydex better for the backpack with a covered trigger of course. The LCP and I got off to a better start, I bought a sticky pocket holster when I bought the LCP and it lives in it's sticky holder. I do force myself to put a magazine through the LCP each range trip, it's a nasty little thing recoil wise. I would not want to be on the receiving end. __________________ ricklin Freedom is not free

March 19, 2025, 05:39 PM	#16
farmlife247 Junior Member Join Date: March 19, 2025 Posts: 8	Even with pocket carry, you should always use a pocket holster.