Modern Ruger 10/22 Trigger Pull. Any Changes?

[FunGramps]

I'm considering a new Ruger 10/22 with the wood stock. I've owned one before, as far back as the early 80's, but sold mine.
I liked the rifle, but wasn't impressed by the trigger pull. It seemed a bit rough around the edges. Not smooth, and too heavy a pull.
Does anyone know if the trigger pull has changed at all with the newer ones, or what it might cost to have a gunsmith lighten it up a bit, if that's even a good idea?
Thanks!

[Shadow9mm]

Last I checked trigger is the same for the factory guns unless you get one of the target models with the BX trigger groups.

With that said, ruger does make a drop in match trigger group now that is 2.5-3lb for $90 if you can find one.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1016234618?pid=534496

There are also tons of aftermarket trigger kits from just the sear, to full trigger kits. Most are drop in, no gunsmithing required, just swap the parts

I have had good luck just adding the power custom sear. and some improvement with the sear and hammer kit.
https://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSear...temsPerPage=48

I have also used Volquartsen parts and they have a great reputation too.
https://volquartsen.com/departments/...022-and-magnum

[Pahoo]

Does anyone know if the trigger pull has changed at all with the newer ones, or what it might cost to have a gunsmith lighten it up a bit, if that's even a good idea?

I don't believe so. I have always found these pulls to be just over 6.0 Lb. and seldom consistent. I have a number of scales and my handiest for these 10/22's has a range of 0-6. This and for other reasons, is not acceptable to me. As my goal is 2.0 to 2.0; smooth and crisp. For about $40.00, I can attain that. I have done OEM but it takes time. If you do by and kit, I recommend a Vots kit.

Enjoy and
Be safe !!!

[jmr40]

Over the years Ruger has made well over 100 variants of the 10/22, with 50-60 different versions shown at any given time. Currently showing 60 different 10/22's on their website.

https://ruger.com/products/1022/overview.html

IMO you can do a lot better than the standard carbine although it may require a little more work to find one. Especially right now. There are several versions of the Sporter that I like.

https://ruger.com/products/1022Sporter/models.html

And the price is only slightly more than the standard rifle, usually under $25.

Over the years Ruger 10/22's have been all over the place. Some are VERY accurate, others horrible. And it is hard to figure out a pattern. Unless you get one with the BX trigger none are particularly light, but sometimes you can still squeeze decent accuracy out of one of the factory triggers.

The BX trigger was about $90 last time I looked and is an easy DIY replacement I have one that came with the BX trigger, and I bought another. I paid a gunsmith to lighten another factory. Seems like he charged me about $25, but that was some years ago.

I've found the versions without a barrel band tend to be more accurate. But even at that I've gone with replacement aftermarket barrels on a couple of mine to get them to shoot well.

[Shadow9mm]

I remember seeing a video years back, I think it was shot show, about how ruger really takes pride in their 10/22 barrels. good steel and hammer forged. I think the main accuracy issues a lot of people have are due to the barrel band and non free floated barrels. and not trying different ammo to see what the gun likes.

[9x19]

Not a lot of improvement in the factory triggers, but the trigger is an easy fix, and there are some after-market options that may astound you (in both light crisp pull and asking price )

A Volquartsen replacement hammer is an easy mod, and costs about $35

You can send your trigger group to a couple places and have a trigger job done, price starts at about $75... I've had good results from Connecticut Precision Chambering (1st choice) and Brimstone Gunsmithing (close 2nd).

For drop-in replacements, there is the Ruger BX version, about $75, or you can buy a complete new trigger group from several other sources... prices start in the low $100 - ie Hornet Custom - and can hit 3x that pretty quick. Volquartsen and Kidd are two of the higher end sellers. In that price range Kidd would be my 1st choice.

[FunGramps]

Thanks so much for the options, everyone. Appears there are much less expensive and easier fixes available than I thought. Much appreciated.

[Pahoo]

Last I checked trigger is the same for the factory guns unless you get one of the target models with the BX trigger groups.

I've taken the opportunity to disassemble and evaluate the work on the BX-Trigger guard as well as a 10/22 Target model. Yes, there are upgrades that were done but one can do better for less money.

Don't get me wrong and I am a Ruger fan. As I've stated before, they still "that" good but the older ones are better. .

Be Safe !!!

[jpx2rk]

Go over to rimfirecentral and look/search for trigger upgrades, etc., Numerous posts about the various options available. I sent a couple oem trigger groups off to one of the services (can't remember which one) and they re-work the oem stuff, and get the trigger pull down in the 2-3# range, nice crisp break as well.

[stinkeypete]

The big change in trigger is that the trigger group now has a plastic housing. Just disassemble, pop a pin, drop in the upgraded trigger group, done.

The Ruger BX trigger group module was $50 a few years ago, now seems to be $75 to 100 on eBay. Why? No clue.

The BX trigger is a big improvement and well worth the money. Still, not an “ultimate” trigger. Volquartsen makes some nice parts and their deluxe milled trigger group is $275 if you feel like going whole hog. There are other nice aftermarket triggers for less.

You can drop a few thousand in to your 10/22 or tune it to a pretty darned nice bunny buster for $100 and some elbow grease. It’s not horrible stock, either.

The guys at rimfirecentral.com can talk your ear off about small shops selling reworked trigger groups for less than the volquartsen.

I dropped a BX trigger in mine and it’s good enough for me. I’m a bit of a trigger snob. It’s not as nice as a stock CZ trigger, but hey... it’s a 10/22 not an German match rifle.

[Pahoo]

The guys at rimfirecentral.com can talk your ear off about small shops selling reworked trigger groups for less than the volquartsen.

I was fortunate to buy an older aluminum trigger guard/group for $15.00, at a GS. Ruger refer to them as "trigger-guard" and us "vintage" shooters know them as trigger groups; Same/Same. .......
Did my $39.00 upgrade and now have a spare that is better than the BX ....

Regardless, the more you shoot a 10/22, the better the trigger pull. Volquartsen and others, can not give you the finished pull weight; they can only list a range. However, the finished pull should not exceed 2.5, smooth, and crisp ......

Be Safe !!!

[FunGramps]

Originally Posted by jmr40

Over the years Ruger has made well over 100 variants of the 10/22, with 50-60 different versions shown at any given time. Currently showing 60 different 10/22's on their website.

https://ruger.com/products/1022/overview.html

IMO you can do a lot better than the standard carbine although it may require a little more work to find one. Especially right now. There are several versions of the Sporter that I like.

https://ruger.com/products/1022Sporter/models.html

And the price is only slightly more than the standard rifle, usually under $25.

Over the years Ruger 10/22's have been all over the place. Some are VERY accurate, others horrible. And it is hard to figure out a pattern. Unless you get one with the BX trigger none are particularly light, but sometimes you can still squeeze decent accuracy out of one of the factory triggers.

The BX trigger was about $90 last time I looked and is an easy DIY replacement I have one that came with the BX trigger, and I bought another. I paid a gunsmith to lighten another factory. Seems like he charged me about $25, but that was some years ago.

I've found the versions without a barrel band tend to be more accurate. But even at that I've gone with replacement aftermarket barrels on a couple of mine to get them to shoot well.

Thanks for the recommendation to look at the sporters. I just paid for a new one and will be shipped to my FFL. It has the either love it or hate it stock...the rosewood sporter with the dragon on one side of the rear stock. The wood is gorgeous. I'm considering a drop in Kidd kit for the trigger pull.

[Drm50]

I have put Volquartsen Target hammer kits in dozens of stock 10/22s. The new sintered hammers are replaced and shims added. Makes nice trigger pull for informal target and hunting purposes. Since Ruger went to plastic trigger housing the hammer shims make a really big difference. When I get beat up old model 10/22s I swap out trigger group for new plastic units that I buy cheap from guys building 10/22s. That improves the gun about 25% right off.

[Siggy-06]

Just something to consider: the Bergara BXR. Comes with a better stock, barrel, trigger, and takes the 10/22 mags. You basically get a deluxe 10/22 for $499, without going into the Kidd or Volquartsen $$$ prices. I have a 10/22 that I’ve added a bunch of kidd parts too, and the bergara with the steel barrel(theres a carbon fiber one for $30-40 more), and the Bergara is just better all around.

[kymasabe]

Mine is much improved with a Power Custom hammer kit and yellow jacket bolt buffer. I think I paid less than $40 for both and made a very noticable improvement.

[zplinker]

I've had the Kidd package in mine for years, and would do it again in a heartbeat. The trigger is set at 1#, and works perfectly.

[berettaprofessor]

The Ruger 10/22 trigger is easily lightened into a 2-3# trigger with little skill needed. See around 6 minutes, 20 seconds into this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aQcnOjUizw

[Shadow9mm]

Originally Posted by berettaprofessor

The Ruger 10/22 trigger is easily lightened into a 2-3# trigger with little skill needed. See around 6 minutes, 20 seconds into this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aQcnOjUizw

Bad idea. Yes it can be done, but that kind of work, changing sear angles and the like, is best done by a gunsmith. It's easy to mess up, or not get quite right. Thus can result in an unsafe or non functional gun and you will end up having to buy replacement factory parts for, or the relatively inexpensive match parts you should have just bought on the first place
. Personally. If I make any mod to a gun, it is with an aftermarket part. Or on an extra factory part I bought. I always want to be able to put the gun back to factory spec if I need to or something does not work as planned.

[Fishbed77]

A Volquartsen replacement hammer is an easy mod, and costs about $35

This is the quickest, easiest, and least expensive method to improve a 10/22 trigger.

Obviously a full Kidd trigger group replacement is a superior option, but you have to weigh the value to you, as it will cost almost as much as the host firearm.

[MarkCO]

Originally Posted by Fishbed77

This is the quickest, easiest, and least expensive method to improve a 10/22 trigger.

Obviously a full Kidd trigger group replacement is a superior option, but you have to weigh the value to you, as it will cost almost as much as the host firearm.

Agree.

I only have one 10/22 made by Ruger and it has a full VQ trigger group in it. The others are VQ or Tactical Solutions receivers with TS, Kidd or Beyer barrels on them and aftermarket triggers or ones worked over by one of the companies mentioned above.

My precision 10/22 has a TS prototype trigger in it, but they have not brought it to market yet. My understanding is that it was a BX housing reworked. Mine has an overtravel screw in it, and it is sweet. But lots of options short of the full groups from VQ or Kidd.

[Pahoo]

Bad idea. Yes it can be done, but that kind of work, changing sear angles and the like, is best done by a gunsmith. It's easy to mess up, or not get quite right.

I went thru this process just to say that I can and came away with the attitude that it really wasn't worth my time so I just buy the kits and get consistent performance. In the learning curve of these 10/22, this is about 75% of the way. ......

Be Safe !!!

[pete2]

I have a couple that I did a DIY trigger job on, 3to 3-1/2# pull on them. One with a Volq. hammer and springs, one with a BX trigger.
The Volq. and the BX are around 2-1/2#. The DIY actually have a better feel than the other 2 to me but I actually like a 3-1/2# pull, same as my handguns.
One note on the plastic trigger guards. The parts actually fit better in them than in the metal guards. Ruger guns (handguns and 10/22s) generally have a lot of built in slop. This makes it harder to get a decent pull but you can make them a lot better. Oddly, I have a Ruger AR lower that has a 2 stage 4-1/2# pull that is really good for a cheap stock AR. Not a target quality pull but a useable trigger as is. This was a great surprise to me, only good Ruger stock trigger I've ever seen.

[berettaprofessor]

Thus can result in an unsafe or non functional gun and you will end up having to buy replacement factory parts for, or the relatively inexpensive match parts you should have just bought on the first place
. Personally. If I make any mod to a gun, it is with an

Maybe. Or maybe it’s easier than you think. Or maybe I’m just surprisingly unique, having done three like this, put them through all the safety checks, and each of them better than the BX trigger I bought for $60. And as good as the Volquartsen I paid $200 for. Just try it. You can always replace the hammer.

Horror of horrors, I’ve also done the auto-bolt release mod myself too.

[Pahoo]

Maybe. Or maybe it’s easier than you think.

An instructor friend of mine, asked me if I would look at his 10/22 as it was not functioning properly. Because he is a fellow instructor and I always look forward to a challenge, I said; sure. ....

Problems;
Someone attempted to do a home-made trigger work with OEM parts. All of the springs had been clipped short and the hammer filed down. Even the magazine spring was not reassembled correctly. I have a bunch of OEM parts, left over from upgrade jobs, used them and was back in action. As a courtesy, he offered to pay me and as usual, I refused as with friends, it al comes out even, in the end. .....

Be Safe !!!

[MarkCO]

Some people can build a complete rifle, others have trouble cleaning a rifle. Not all are equal in skill level or knowledge. Know your limitations, don't be stupid.