CZ 75

Roland Thunder · May 7, 2019, 10:41 PM

I recently bought my first CZ, a CZ 75. I watched a video on how to field strip and clean it. In the video, the author used oil to lube the rails. I have always used grease to lube rails on metal guns and oil/CLP on polymer gun rails. So, I went with my intuition and used grease.

For those of you with metal CZ's, do you lube with grease or oil.

redlightrich · May 7, 2019, 11:03 PM

I have a few CZ's and I oil all of them. I use a very light oil ( Hoppes I think). I shoot all year, and living in the northeast, the cold winters make me think oil is best. I am afraid the grease may be a bit too thick in the extreme cold. However, even in the mild summers, I use the same light old. Thousands of rounds with no bad effects.

You may be fine with gun grease, but I prefer oil.

Good luck

Rich

5whiskey · May 7, 2019, 11:26 PM

You didn’t mess anything up with putting grease on the rails of a cz. I prefer to grease rails personally, and the CZ platform is not designed so that it suffers damage or doesn’t benefit from grease on the rails.

Dan-O · May 8, 2019, 01:38 AM

Synthetic motor oil on everything

10-96 · May 8, 2019, 02:08 AM

Those are some mighty long rails as far as rails go. I use oil. I don't know when grease got popular (sort of), but there's a whole lot of stuff that will break, wear out, or whatever way before oiled rails.

Roland Thunder · May 8, 2019, 08:33 AM

Post people I know use grease on 1911 rails because they are metal. So, I figure the same would hold true for the CZ 75. Sig actually sends a little tube of grease in the box of new 226's, as I recall.

TomNJVA · May 8, 2019, 09:11 AM

I use a thin coat of a synthetic grease on my CZ 75BD.

Hammerhead · May 8, 2019, 04:44 PM

Love grease on full rail pistols.
Slide Glide Lite or white lithium grease painted onto both sides very thin.
Feels better than oil if nothing else.

Old 454 · May 8, 2019, 05:55 PM

Lucas gun grease on all my cz rails

cslinger · May 8, 2019, 06:17 PM

I use grease on rails (sliding metal on metal).
Oil on barrel/top of hood.

SIGS, CZs, 1911s, Glocks, HKs etc. etc.

mdThanatos · May 8, 2019, 08:33 PM

I have been using grease for a while on my semi-autos. I think as long as you have lubrication on the pistol it will be fine.

dyl · May 9, 2019, 01:38 PM

No matter what the frame is made of (polymer, metal) so far rails have been made of metal. There have been some exceptions. Kahr has a short section of polymer rail as a guide, and i think some XD did too, older Ruger pistols, as did first gen Polymer 80 rear rails. Some rails are made of aluminum (sig226, beretta92 and some pocket pistols) so that's why people are so worried about wearing through the annodization and use what they feel is the most protective grease they have that will stay put. They're worried oil will run off. But even most polymer guns have rails made of metal. So if something works for 1, there is no rule forbidding it's use for the other.

T. O'Heir · May 9, 2019, 01:47 PM

"...went with my intuition..." Good for you. This'd be one of the reasons to not get your training from a video. It's grease on mating parts and oil on the rest. Oil will drain off while grease will not.

JWT · May 9, 2019, 03:19 PM

Dan Wesson specifically recommended that I use oii, not grease, on my DW 1991s after I had FTF issues with them. Apparently their tolerances are too tight for the thicker lube. I use grease on all my other handgun rails.

Sweet Shooter · May 10, 2019, 12:31 PM

If it slides - grease.
If it spins or rotates - oil.

Mobile1 synthetic grease works well on all my pistols. Grease on FL slide rails and a little on the hood helps keep out the rain. I've never had problems even in very cold harsh weather. It can be applied quite thin and stays put for a long time whereas oil tends to evacuate working areas more quickly. I also use it on the guide rod.

Walt Sherrill · May 10, 2019, 05:26 PM

Whether you use grease or oil may also depend on the environment: if there is a lot of dirt, grit in the environment, tor if the temperature is very high or very low, grease can be a problem. Otherwise, it tends to be a non-issue.

I view this question a bit like the debate over Nitrogen in auto tires or air. Most of the folks involved in that debate don't seem to realize that air is 78% nitrogen and only 21% oxygen. Does pure nitrogen (or in this case, grease on the slide and frame) really make that big a difference in performance or durability?

hemiram · May 11, 2019, 01:42 AM

I've used Break-Free for over 40 years and never had any wear issues on semi rails. A friend always uses grease on his guns and it attracts a lot of "scuzz" and I don't see any difference in rail wear between our guns.

Bfglowkey · May 11, 2019, 07:52 AM

Owning a clone I find the synthetic lubricants work very well and offer astounding retain ability on parts without over attraction of contamination particles. Of course if I am headed to a known dusty environment I make sure I didn’t over do it lol.

rburch · May 14, 2019, 09:03 PM

I use grease on the rails of all my guns, and oil for everything else.

AirForceShooter · May 15, 2019, 09:55 AM

Mobil One 5W30.
On literally everything that shoots.

AFS

**4V50 Gary** · May 15, 2019, 05:22 PM

I use whatever I have at hand.

I won't use WD-40 though.

Apple a Day · June 2, 2019, 09:15 PM

Grease on the rails for me

Americanpatriot · June 2, 2019, 10:04 PM

Milcomm TW25B Weapons Grease if I use grease at all. Small amount will do. Never had issues with collecting debris or grit. Military uses it on machine guns. Normally I use Eezox which is my favorite CLP. Been using it around 15-20 years

May 7, 2019, 10:41 PM	#1
Roland Thunder Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Location: Gwinnett County Georgia Posts: 1,137	CZ 75 I recently bought my first CZ, a CZ 75. I watched a video on how to field strip and clean it. In the video, the author used oil to lube the rails. I have always used grease to lube rails on metal guns and oil/CLP on polymer gun rails. So, I went with my intuition and used grease. For those of you with metal CZ's, do you lube with grease or oil. __________________ Do not follow where the path may lead, go, instead where there is no path and leave a trail - Ralph Waldo Emerson

May 7, 2019, 11:26 PM	#3
5whiskey Senior Member Join Date: October 23, 2005 Location: US Posts: 3,753	You didn’t mess anything up with putting grease on the rails of a cz. I prefer to grease rails personally, and the CZ platform is not designed so that it suffers damage or doesn’t benefit from grease on the rails. __________________ Support the NRA-ILA Auction, ends 03/09/2018 https://thefiringline.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=593946

May 8, 2019, 02:08 AM	#5
10-96 Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 2005 Location: Tx Panhandle Territory Posts: 4,190	Those are some mighty long rails as far as rails go. I use oil. I don't know when grease got popular (sort of), but there's a whole lot of stuff that will break, wear out, or whatever way before oiled rails. __________________ Rednecks... Keeping the woods critter-free since March 2, 1836. (TX Independence Day) I suspect a thing or two... because I've seen a thing or two.

May 8, 2019, 08:33 AM	#6
Roland Thunder Senior Member Join Date: December 29, 2010 Location: Gwinnett County Georgia Posts: 1,137	Post people I know use grease on 1911 rails because they are metal. So, I figure the same would hold true for the CZ 75. Sig actually sends a little tube of grease in the box of new 226's, as I recall. __________________ Do not follow where the path may lead, go, instead where there is no path and leave a trail - Ralph Waldo Emerson

May 8, 2019, 09:11 AM	#7
TomNJVA Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2014 Location: Floyd, VA Posts: 244	I use a thin coat of a synthetic grease on my CZ 75BD. __________________ In NJ, the bad guys are armed and the households are alarmed. In VA, the households are armed and the bad guys are alarmed.

May 7, 2019, 11:03 PM	#2
redlightrich Senior Member Join Date: January 24, 2016 Posts: 341	I have a few CZ's and I oil all of them. I use a very light oil ( Hoppes I think). I shoot all year, and living in the northeast, the cold winters make me think oil is best. I am afraid the grease may be a bit too thick in the extreme cold. However, even in the mild summers, I use the same light old. Thousands of rounds with no bad effects. You may be fine with gun grease, but I prefer oil. Good luck Rich

May 8, 2019, 01:38 AM	#4
Dan-O Senior Member Join Date: August 3, 2011 Location: Northern Colorado Posts: 969	Synthetic motor oil on everything

May 8, 2019, 04:44 PM	#8
Hammerhead Senior Member Join Date: June 1, 2004 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,432	Love grease on full rail pistols. Slide Glide Lite or white lithium grease painted onto both sides very thin. Feels better than oil if nothing else.

May 8, 2019, 05:55 PM	#9
Old 454 Senior Member Join Date: August 15, 2011 Location: Chesterton Ind. Posts: 839	Lucas gun grease on all my cz rails

May 8, 2019, 06:17 PM	#10
cslinger Senior Member Join Date: July 14, 2002 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,049	I use grease on rails (sliding metal on metal). Oil on barrel/top of hood. SIGS, CZs, 1911s, Glocks, HKs etc. etc. __________________ "Is there anyway I can write my local gun store off on my taxes as dependents?"

May 8, 2019, 08:33 PM	#11
mdThanatos Senior Member Join Date: August 19, 2008 Posts: 104	I have been using grease for a while on my semi-autos. I think as long as you have lubrication on the pistol it will be fine.

May 9, 2019, 01:38 PM	#12
dyl Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,310	No matter what the frame is made of (polymer, metal) so far rails have been made of metal. There have been some exceptions. Kahr has a short section of polymer rail as a guide, and i think some XD did too, older Ruger pistols, as did first gen Polymer 80 rear rails. Some rails are made of aluminum (sig226, beretta92 and some pocket pistols) so that's why people are so worried about wearing through the annodization and use what they feel is the most protective grease they have that will stay put. They're worried oil will run off. But even most polymer guns have rails made of metal. So if something works for 1, there is no rule forbidding it's use for the other. Last edited by dyl; May 9, 2019 at 01:46 PM.

May 9, 2019, 01:47 PM	#13
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...went with my intuition..." Good for you. This'd be one of the reasons to not get your training from a video. It's grease on mating parts and oil on the rest. Oil will drain off while grease will not.

May 9, 2019, 03:19 PM	#14
JWT Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2007 Location: Southern Arizona Posts: 3,888	Dan Wesson specifically recommended that I use oii, not grease, on my DW 1991s after I had FTF issues with them. Apparently their tolerances are too tight for the thicker lube. I use grease on all my other handgun rails.

May 10, 2019, 12:31 PM	#15
Sweet Shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 17, 2011 Posts: 672	If it slides - grease. If it spins or rotates - oil. Mobile1 synthetic grease works well on all my pistols. Grease on FL slide rails and a little on the hood helps keep out the rain. I've never had problems even in very cold harsh weather. It can be applied quite thin and stays put for a long time whereas oil tends to evacuate working areas more quickly. I also use it on the guide rod.

May 10, 2019, 05:26 PM	#16
Walt Sherrill Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 6,348	Whether you use grease or oil may also depend on the environment: if there is a lot of dirt, grit in the environment, tor if the temperature is very high or very low, grease can be a problem. Otherwise, it tends to be a non-issue. I view this question a bit like the debate over Nitrogen in auto tires or air. Most of the folks involved in that debate don't seem to realize that air is 78% nitrogen and only 21% oxygen. Does pure nitrogen (or in this case, grease on the slide and frame) really make that big a difference in performance or durability? Last edited by Walt Sherrill; May 10, 2019 at 06:43 PM.

May 11, 2019, 01:42 AM	#17
hemiram Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2005 Location: Toledo, ohio Posts: 762	I've used Break-Free for over 40 years and never had any wear issues on semi rails. A friend always uses grease on his guns and it attracts a lot of "scuzz" and I don't see any difference in rail wear between our guns.

May 11, 2019, 07:52 AM	#18
Bfglowkey Senior Member Join Date: May 27, 2018 Posts: 302	Owning a clone I find the synthetic lubricants work very well and offer astounding retain ability on parts without over attraction of contamination particles. Of course if I am headed to a known dusty environment I make sure I didn’t over do it lol.

May 14, 2019, 09:03 PM	#19
rburch Senior Member Join Date: July 15, 2007 Location: Blacksburg VA Posts: 750	I use grease on the rails of all my guns, and oil for everything else. __________________ I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

May 15, 2019, 09:55 AM	#20
AirForceShooter Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Location: Sarasota (sort of) Florida Posts: 1,296	Mobil One 5W30. On literally everything that shoots. AFS __________________ 'Qui tacet consentit': To remain silent is to consent.

May 15, 2019, 05:22 PM	#21
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,309	I use whatever I have at hand. I won't use WD-40 though. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 2, 2019, 09:15 PM	#22
Apple a Day Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2000 Location: Poquoson,Virginia Posts: 1,524	Grease on the rails for me

June 2, 2019, 10:04 PM	#23
Americanpatriot Member Join Date: June 11, 2017 Posts: 34	Milcomm TW25B Weapons Grease if I use grease at all. Small amount will do. Never had issues with collecting debris or grit. Military uses it on machine guns. Normally I use Eezox which is my favorite CLP. Been using it around 15-20 years