Out of State Black Powder Pistol Purchase

jetscrazy44 · April 14, 2015, 10:40 AM

I know this question has been raised before, but I can't find any info pertaining to this particular case.

The question is, is it illegal to purchase a cap and ball pistol outside of NJ without a Permit to Purchase and bring it back into the state? Also, what would be the legality if you plan on using a Kirst Converter in it and modifying the recoil shield?

Thanks everyone.

Edit: Sorry if I posted this in the wrong area, just joined the forums.

Fingers McGee · April 14, 2015, 02:42 PM

Knowing what little I do about NJ - based on anecdotal evidence on the web, you'd probably not see the light of day for a very longtime

wogpotter · April 14, 2015, 04:53 PM

AS far as I know NJ does not consider B/P or muzzle-loaders as anything except rifles & pistols, the same as a modern gun.

noelf2 · April 14, 2015, 07:26 PM

If they let you out,... why go back?

cliffhangernlv · April 14, 2015, 07:36 PM

Some poor old guy was arrested for having a flintlock pistol in his car. Supposedly an original, antique. That's NJ.

AKexpat · April 14, 2015, 08:02 PM

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Some poor old guy was arrested for having a flintlock pistol in his car. Supposedly an original, antique. That's NJ.

Might as well get a full-auto M4 with beaucoup 30-40 round mags. In NJ, a flintlock pistol is just as deadly.

F**K Chris Christie in his possible bid for POTUS. I am a Libertarian and he is a RINO, and until he rescinds all of his state's draconian gun laws, he will be a pawn of the NWO.

James K · April 15, 2015, 10:09 PM

NJ gun laws are especially draconian and the ultimate intent is to ban all guns except for LE and the Mafia. But, the fact is that most state laws regarding handgun carry do NOT make an exception for antique or repro guns. I may be wrong but I know of no state that has a carry license that exempts a C&B revolver, for example, or any that exempt a flintlock pistol from the laws on armed robbery or assault with a deadly weapon.

Antiques and repros are typically exempt from SOME of the laws regarding purchase, but not from the criminal laws regarding their use. So you might be able to buy that flintlock with no restrictions, but if you stick up a bank with it, or fire it down main street at noon, it is no different from a Glock.

Jim

swathdiver · April 15, 2015, 10:31 PM

Federal law, Florida and Texas for example, which mirrors Federal law on this, have no restrictions on the open carry of antique firearms and Florida, don't know about Texas, has no restrictions on the concealed carry of antique firearms.

But many local governments do not care what the law allows and most LEOs don't know the law regarding antique firearms and would probably arrest you anyway.

That fella with the antique firearms in Jersey had the charges dropped against him.

Bishop Creek · April 15, 2015, 10:53 PM

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But many local governments do not care what the law allows and most LEOs don't know the law regarding antique firearms and would probably arrest you anyway

Which is why I am very careful with my cap and ball revolvers when I go out target shooting with them. Lock them up in a case in the car, etc.

April 14, 2015, 10:40 AM	#1
jetscrazy44 Junior Member Join Date: April 14, 2015 Posts: 3	Out of State Black Powder Pistol Purchase I know this question has been raised before, but I can't find any info pertaining to this particular case. The question is, is it illegal to purchase a cap and ball pistol outside of NJ without a Permit to Purchase and bring it back into the state? Also, what would be the legality if you plan on using a Kirst Converter in it and modifying the recoil shield? Thanks everyone. Edit: Sorry if I posted this in the wrong area, just joined the forums.

April 14, 2015, 07:26 PM	#4
noelf2 Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2008 Location: Stuart, VA Posts: 2,473	If they let you out,... why go back? __________________ Liberty and freedom often offends those who understand neither.

April 15, 2015, 10:31 PM	#8
swathdiver Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2012 Location: Treasure Coast, Florida Posts: 335	Federal law, Florida and Texas for example, which mirrors Federal law on this, have no restrictions on the open carry of antique firearms and Florida, don't know about Texas, has no restrictions on the concealed carry of antique firearms. But many local governments do not care what the law allows and most LEOs don't know the law regarding antique firearms and would probably arrest you anyway. That fella with the antique firearms in Jersey had the charges dropped against him. __________________ “Gird up now thy loins like a man; for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.” - Job 38:3

April 14, 2015, 02:42 PM	#2
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Location: High & Dry in Missouri Ozarks Posts: 2,113	Knowing what little I do about NJ - based on anecdotal evidence on the web, you'd probably not see the light of day for a very longtime

April 14, 2015, 04:53 PM	#3
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	AS far as I know NJ does not consider B/P or muzzle-loaders as anything except rifles & pistols, the same as a modern gun.

April 14, 2015, 07:36 PM	#5
cliffhangernlv Member Join Date: February 14, 2015 Posts: 53	Some poor old guy was arrested for having a flintlock pistol in his car. Supposedly an original, antique. That's NJ.

April 15, 2015, 10:09 PM	#7
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	NJ gun laws are especially draconian and the ultimate intent is to ban all guns except for LE and the Mafia. But, the fact is that most state laws regarding handgun carry do NOT make an exception for antique or repro guns. I may be wrong but I know of no state that has a carry license that exempts a C&B revolver, for example, or any that exempt a flintlock pistol from the laws on armed robbery or assault with a deadly weapon. Antiques and repros are typically exempt from SOME of the laws regarding purchase, but not from the criminal laws regarding their use. So you might be able to buy that flintlock with no restrictions, but if you stick up a bank with it, or fire it down main street at noon, it is no different from a Glock. Jim