Using N140 instead of Varget

kln4 · August 13, 2013, 08:31 PM

I have an AR10 B and M1A and have been using Varget as my powder, until recently. I was given an unopened 8lb can of N140, (guy no longer want to reload his M16). Anyway I have it and was wondering if anyone has used it in their M1A or AR10. Most of my reload manuals are old like me, and I can't find any data using N140. Both rifles are service grade and I've be shooting Hornady 168gr BTHP with Varget for years.
thanks

savagest · August 14, 2013, 02:50 AM

i will look in my sierra manual for you

steve4102 · August 14, 2013, 07:37 AM

From VV's web site.

N140
A true multipurpose powder, which can usually be used in
place of IMR4320, Reloder 15 or Hodgdon H380. Good
choice also for .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .308
Winchester, .30-06 Springfield,
8x57 IS (8 mm Mauser) and
.375 H&H Magnum.

Link and data found here.

http://www.lapua.com/upload/download...10_2012eng.pdf

Sure Shot Mc Gee · August 14, 2013, 07:58 AM

I actually have a free-be Vihtavuori 2001 hand book. As stated:

N-140
308: HPBT sierra 168 gr.
38.3 to 42.9 gr.
2313 to 2558

S/S

Rimfire5 · August 14, 2013, 08:36 AM

I tried N140 in my .308 Savage and found it resulted in my most accurate loads.

I had used Varget, R-15, and H4895 with a lot of experimentation with 150 through 175 grain bullets.

The N140 got the best results by a small margin and had the lowest standard deviation in velocity when shot through my chronograph.
I think part of the reason was that it meters so well.

In my rifle, N140 is my go to powder.

kln4 · August 14, 2013, 08:37 AM

Thanks, I got the vv page and will start my first test rounds. I like my varget and have been using it for years but have one 8lb can left. The biggest problem is getting the bullets.

rox · August 14, 2013, 08:54 AM

Here's a more up-to-date Viht online load data book:

Vihtavouri Reloading Data 11th Edition 2013

http://www.lapua.com/upload/download...11_2013eng.pdf

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stubbicatt · August 14, 2013, 10:13 AM

I like the N140 and N550 powders. There has been some speculation concerning the ongoing VV commercial concern. I guess they are being closed down if someone doesn't buy them.

mehavey · August 14, 2013, 04:28 PM

Quote:

....guess they are being closed down if someone doesn't buy them.

OUCH !!!
I had not heard that -- any web citations to read other than THIS brief heads-up?

rox · August 16, 2013, 03:02 AM

Quote:

There has been some speculation concerning the ongoing VV commercial concern. I guess they are being closed down if someone doesn't buy them.

There was a possibility of the closure of the Finnish Viht factory, but the owners of Viht have plenty of other places where they could manufacture the Viht product line. My industry contacts tell me they don't think Viht powders are disappearing anytime soon.

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August 13, 2013, 08:31 PM	#1
kln4 Member Join Date: August 13, 2013 Posts: 82	Using N140 instead of Varget I have an AR10 B and M1A and have been using Varget as my powder, until recently. I was given an unopened 8lb can of N140, (guy no longer want to reload his M16). Anyway I have it and was wondering if anyone has used it in their M1A or AR10. Most of my reload manuals are old like me, and I can't find any data using N140. Both rifles are service grade and I've be shooting Hornady 168gr BTHP with Varget for years. thanks

August 14, 2013, 02:50 AM	#2
savagest Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2013 Posts: 110	i will look in my sierra manual for you

August 14, 2013, 07:37 AM	#3
steve4102 Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,968	From VV's web site. N140 A true multipurpose powder, which can usually be used in place of IMR4320, Reloder 15 or Hodgdon H380. Good choice also for .223 Remington, .22-250 Remington, .308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, 8x57 IS (8 mm Mauser) and .375 H&H Magnum. Link and data found here. http://www.lapua.com/upload/download...10_2012eng.pdf

August 14, 2013, 07:58 AM	#4
Sure Shot Mc Gee Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,876	I actually have a free-be Vihtavuori 2001 hand book. As stated: N-140 308: HPBT sierra 168 gr. 38.3 to 42.9 gr. 2313 to 2558 S/S

August 14, 2013, 08:36 AM	#5
Rimfire5 Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 982	I tried N140 in my .308 Savage and found it resulted in my most accurate loads. I had used Varget, R-15, and H4895 with a lot of experimentation with 150 through 175 grain bullets. The N140 got the best results by a small margin and had the lowest standard deviation in velocity when shot through my chronograph. I think part of the reason was that it meters so well. In my rifle, N140 is my go to powder.

August 14, 2013, 08:37 AM	#6
kln4 Member Join Date: August 13, 2013 Posts: 82	Thanks, I got the vv page and will start my first test rounds. I like my varget and have been using it for years but have one 8lb can left. The biggest problem is getting the bullets.

August 14, 2013, 08:54 AM	#7
rox Member Join Date: October 4, 2012 Posts: 81	Here's a more up-to-date Viht online load data book: Vihtavouri Reloading Data 11th Edition 2013 http://www.lapua.com/upload/download...11_2013eng.pdf ..

August 14, 2013, 10:13 AM	#8
stubbicatt Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2007 Posts: 1,707	I like the N140 and N550 powders. There has been some speculation concerning the ongoing VV commercial concern. I guess they are being closed down if someone doesn't buy them.