Ruger M77 Mark II Target

Blackwood · June 7, 2013, 12:16 PM

I want to buy a bolt action match rifle in .223. Is the Ruger M77 Mark II Target a good buy? I' ve no experience with Ruger bolt action rifles. How is the accuracy and quality by comparison to a Remington 700P? I ask because I like the laminate stock and the price

(1100 Euro for the Ruger and 1600 for the 700P)

JD0x0 · June 7, 2013, 01:00 PM

I have no experience with the target models but my "standard" M77 chambered in .270 win will shoot MOA with factory ammo and an $80 3-9x scope. I'd say it's a pretty good buy.

Bart B. · June 7, 2013, 07:46 PM

Will you shoot it in matches, of so, what types?

jmr40 · June 7, 2013, 09:58 PM

Generally Rugers are more than accurate enough for a hunting rifle. For that purpose I'd pick a Ruger over a Remington every time. As a target rifle most cannot quite keep up with Remington or Savage rifles. 1 MOA is perfectly acceptable for most hunting situations. It won't be competetative in most target shooting games.

Every rifle is an individual, and some Rugers will outshoot some Remingtons. But the odds are in the favor of the Remington being more accurate.

tahunua001 · June 7, 2013, 11:17 PM

ever since Cerberus(Freedom Arms Corp) bought remington their quality has gone downhill I'm afraid. Ruger is a fine company on the other hand. they have had to take cost saving efforts just like everyone else in this economy but they have managed to keep quality better than most. my whole family has grown up with remingtons and have almost been completely converted to Ruger enthusiasts. my brother in law has a M77, my older brother owns an M77 MKII as well as two other M77s all in varying calibers. I own an M77 MKII in 30-06. all are very accurate, well built, high quality and very smooth actions. I would take them over a remington 700 of any configuration.

kahrguy · June 8, 2013, 07:31 AM

I your looking for a target grade factory rifle in 223 you may be better for with a savage arms model 12 Target and varmint series to find the rifle that's fits your class best.

Rem can be more hit and miss in quality , rugers makes a solid rifle today but its best feature is being a control feed action.

I have a custom ruger hunting rifle that is very accurate but today I would buy a savage model 12 target class if match shooting or a varmint if also hunting. You can do a barrel and bolt face change at home down the road as needed with no need for a smithy and the target model comes with a better trigger the other don't have

chipchip · June 8, 2013, 09:04 AM

I have one in a 6.5 Creedmoor and it will shoot 1/2" groups if I do my part. I shoot for fun not competition and I'm very pleased with the gun.

Kachok · June 8, 2013, 10:04 AM

The Ruger is likely to be a good shooter, they have been improving over the past few years, but if you are looking for radical accuracy give Savage or Tikka a good look.

dahermit · June 8, 2013, 10:28 AM

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Generally Rugers are more than accurate enough for a hunting rifle. For that purpose I'd pick a Ruger over a Remington every time. As a target rifle most cannot quite keep up with Remington or Savage rifles. 1 MOA is perfectly acceptable for most hunting situations. It won't be competetative in most target shooting games.

He was not asking about hunting rifles, he was talking about a Ruger Mk II "Target" rifle. If they are anything like my Ruger Mk II Target in .308 Winchester, they will shoot .5 inch at 100 yds. I won a 200 yard egg shooting (placed end-wise), contest at my local club by hitting four of the five...if I had been a better shot, I could have hit all five. As target rifles, Ruger Mk II Target-Varmint rifles in my opinion are under-rated.

MTSCMike · June 8, 2013, 11:03 AM

I had one in .243 several years ago and currently have the .308...both will do sub-MOA all day long with good loads. I am fond of Federal Gold Medal Match and Hornady TAP. I have also owned a tuned Remington PSS in .308 and the Ruger would shoot with it. The Remington might have a .25 MOA edge on a good day from a solid benchrest but I couldn't shoot well enough to guarantee it.

I would have to think the .223 would be just as good. The only drawback to the Ruger is the lack of a tapered base option for scope mounting but that will only hurt you if you want to go to 1000 yards. I used the Remington for 1000 yard shoots but would have been happy with either out to 600 yards.

Blackwood · June 19, 2013, 12:57 PM

@Bart B.
I will shoot the .223 from 100 up to 300 meters (to go for more is difficult in Germany).

tgstoken · June 20, 2013, 10:29 AM

The internet gives Ruger rifles a bad rap for accuracy, but most of these claims are not first hand. I have never owned a Ruger rifle that I would consider inaccurate. The Tang Safety .243 varmint model (bull barrel) would print groups that could be covered with a dime, with cheap ammo. Heck, even my Mini-14 (newer one) will shoot about 1.5 moa with cheap brass cased ammo. My fathers M77 30-06 hunting rig would keep 5 shots inside 4 inches at 300 yards. Dont know where people keep finding these terribly inaccurate rifles...Maybe just inaccurate shooters...

Buzzcook · June 21, 2013, 07:09 PM

Whatever target gun you buy it won't be the last.

Any target gun from a major gun maker will be a good start.

The advantage Remington has is there are lots of mods designed for the Model 700. Savage is easy to work on, that's its main advantage.

hoghunter · June 22, 2013, 09:08 PM

I have a ruger m77 mk II target in .308 and it is a real tack driver. I can easily get under 1 inch groups at 100 yards

June 7, 2013, 12:16 PM	#1
Blackwood Member Join Date: May 7, 2013 Location: Germany, near Karlsruhe Posts: 23	Ruger M77 Mark II Target I want to buy a bolt action match rifle in .223. Is the Ruger M77 Mark II Target a good buy? I' ve no experience with Ruger bolt action rifles. How is the accuracy and quality by comparison to a Remington 700P? I ask because I like the laminate stock and the price (1100 Euro for the Ruger and 1600 for the 700P)

June 7, 2013, 11:17 PM	#5
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 7,839	ever since Cerberus(Freedom Arms Corp) bought remington their quality has gone downhill I'm afraid. Ruger is a fine company on the other hand. they have had to take cost saving efforts just like everyone else in this economy but they have managed to keep quality better than most. my whole family has grown up with remingtons and have almost been completely converted to Ruger enthusiasts. my brother in law has a M77, my older brother owns an M77 MKII as well as two other M77s all in varying calibers. I own an M77 MKII in 30-06. all are very accurate, well built, high quality and very smooth actions. I would take them over a remington 700 of any configuration. __________________ ignore my complete lack of capitalization. I still have no problem correcting your grammar. I never said half the stuff people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin

June 7, 2013, 01:00 PM	#2
JD0x0 Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2013 Posts: 1,037	I have no experience with the target models but my "standard" M77 chambered in .270 win will shoot MOA with factory ammo and an $80 3-9x scope. I'd say it's a pretty good buy.

June 7, 2013, 07:46 PM	#3
Bart B. Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 2009 Posts: 8,927	Will you shoot it in matches, of so, what types?

June 7, 2013, 09:58 PM	#4
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,976	Generally Rugers are more than accurate enough for a hunting rifle. For that purpose I'd pick a Ruger over a Remington every time. As a target rifle most cannot quite keep up with Remington or Savage rifles. 1 MOA is perfectly acceptable for most hunting situations. It won't be competetative in most target shooting games. Every rifle is an individual, and some Rugers will outshoot some Remingtons. But the odds are in the favor of the Remington being more accurate.

June 8, 2013, 07:31 AM	#6
kahrguy Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2012 Posts: 561	I your looking for a target grade factory rifle in 223 you may be better for with a savage arms model 12 Target and varmint series to find the rifle that's fits your class best. Rem can be more hit and miss in quality , rugers makes a solid rifle today but its best feature is being a control feed action. I have a custom ruger hunting rifle that is very accurate but today I would buy a savage model 12 target class if match shooting or a varmint if also hunting. You can do a barrel and bolt face change at home down the road as needed with no need for a smithy and the target model comes with a better trigger the other don't have

June 8, 2013, 09:04 AM	#7
chipchip Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Posts: 247	I have one in a 6.5 Creedmoor and it will shoot 1/2" groups if I do my part. I shoot for fun not competition and I'm very pleased with the gun.

June 8, 2013, 10:04 AM	#8
Kachok Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2012 Posts: 304	The Ruger is likely to be a good shooter, they have been improving over the past few years, but if you are looking for radical accuracy give Savage or Tikka a good look.

June 8, 2013, 11:03 AM	#10
MTSCMike Senior Member Join Date: March 15, 2011 Location: Middle TN Posts: 164	I had one in .243 several years ago and currently have the .308...both will do sub-MOA all day long with good loads. I am fond of Federal Gold Medal Match and Hornady TAP. I have also owned a tuned Remington PSS in .308 and the Ruger would shoot with it. The Remington might have a .25 MOA edge on a good day from a solid benchrest but I couldn't shoot well enough to guarantee it. I would have to think the .223 would be just as good. The only drawback to the Ruger is the lack of a tapered base option for scope mounting but that will only hurt you if you want to go to 1000 yards. I used the Remington for 1000 yard shoots but would have been happy with either out to 600 yards.

June 19, 2013, 12:57 PM	#11
Blackwood Member Join Date: May 7, 2013 Location: Germany, near Karlsruhe Posts: 23	@Bart B. I will shoot the .223 from 100 up to 300 meters (to go for more is difficult in Germany).

June 20, 2013, 10:29 AM	#12
tgstoken Member Join Date: December 17, 2006 Posts: 35	The internet gives Ruger rifles a bad rap for accuracy, but most of these claims are not first hand. I have never owned a Ruger rifle that I would consider inaccurate. The Tang Safety .243 varmint model (bull barrel) would print groups that could be covered with a dime, with cheap ammo. Heck, even my Mini-14 (newer one) will shoot about 1.5 moa with cheap brass cased ammo. My fathers M77 30-06 hunting rig would keep 5 shots inside 4 inches at 300 yards. Dont know where people keep finding these terribly inaccurate rifles...Maybe just inaccurate shooters...

June 21, 2013, 07:09 PM	#13
Buzzcook Senior Member Join Date: November 29, 2007 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 6,126	Whatever target gun you buy it won't be the last. Any target gun from a major gun maker will be a good start. The advantage Remington has is there are lots of mods designed for the Model 700. Savage is easy to work on, that's its main advantage.

June 22, 2013, 09:08 PM	#14
hoghunter Member Join Date: June 2, 2013 Posts: 16	I have a ruger m77 mk II target in .308 and it is a real tack driver. I can easily get under 1 inch groups at 100 yards