Are New Marlin Model 60s Actually Remlins?

Single Six · July 7, 2012, 04:48 PM

A separate thread I started in this forum got me to wondering about this. I have no interest in starting the "10/22 vs. Model 60" thing again, but the title of this thread says it all. I keep hearing about how Marlin quality has gone down since being acquired by Remington, thereby giving us "Remlins". So, do the currently-produced Model 60s also suffer from this problem, or are they still a solid buy? Thanks, guys.

Single Six · July 11, 2012, 06:57 AM

....and the silence is deafening. Oh well, I guess no one here has recently bought a Model 60.

johnbt · July 11, 2012, 08:46 AM

Good or bad, they are Remlins.

I can't tell you anything about the quality, but Remington closed the Marlin plant and iirc only 3 employees moved to the new location. And I don't think they were all production workers.

There was a recent post on Marlinowners.com that said the Model 60 will get a makeover "soon." The guy said "you heard it here first" so take it for what it's worth.

Crow Hunter · July 11, 2012, 08:53 AM

A guy I work with got one about 3 months or so ago.

It shoots 2 inches to the right of point of aim at 15 yards and this is with the sight drifted to the left some. I don't know how far to the right it shot before he tried drifting it some.

He also got a little bit of bore cleaner on the receiver cleaning it and took the "paint" finish right off.

He said it was very consistent and never had a failure to feed or fire but he doesn't like it.

He is trying to sell it.

He is the only person that I know that has a newer one.

Single Six · July 11, 2012, 09:14 AM

Thanks, guys, I had thought this one wasn't going to get any responses. Still trying to talk myself into a .22 rifle, but from what I'm hearing, the Ruger 10/22 keeps looking better and better.

FiveInADime · July 11, 2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Single Six

Thanks, guys, I had thought this one wasn't going to get any responses. Still trying to talk myself into a .22 rifle, but from what I'm hearing, the Ruger 10/22 keeps looking better and better.

I don't know how much it costs but if you buy a 10/22 (I would just buy a used one) you can have the barrel reworked and get good accuracy if it doesn't shoot good to begin with. There's a guy on Rimfire Central that does 10/22 barrels pretty cheap if I remember correctly.

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Mr Budha · July 11, 2012, 10:19 AM

I bought a Marlin 60 a about four months ago. I don't really have anything negative to say about it. Pretty sweet gun. I do need to take it to the 100 yard range and see how it does (I haven't adjusted the sights at all). But I have shot it about 400 rounds. Wouldn't really think to sell it..unless it was for that special edition "tactd out" 10/22 :P

seanc · July 11, 2012, 01:48 PM

Shouldn't he adjust the front sight to the right if it's shooting to the right?

If the gun has good groups, it's a good gun. Sounds like you just need to fix the shooter or the sights.

Lastly, my model 60 was bought back in the early 1990's, but the front sight wasn't adjustable. It's easily removable, but not adjustable. For windage, I'd have to drift-adjust the rear leaf sight, which I've only had to do when I replaced the stock sights with Williams sights.

FiveInADime · July 11, 2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by seanc

Shouldn't he adjust the sight to the right if it's shooting to the right?

If the gun has good groups, it's a good gun. Sounds like you just need to fix the shooter or the sights.

Lastly, my model 60 was bought back in the early 1990's, but the front sight wasn't adjustable. It's easily removable, but not adjustable. For windage, I'd have to drift-adjust the rear leaf sight, which I've only had to do when I replaced the stock sights with Williams sights.

I've heard of several Marlin semis these days with the rear sight dovetail not completely lined up on top of the barrel. Makes it awful hard to sight in.

Don't get me wrong I love my one-hole-a-matic 795, but I have checked a few 795s and 60s out that were made in Kentucky and a couple of them were as described above.

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ripnbst · July 11, 2012, 02:33 PM

Whether or not they are a solid buy doesn't make them not Remlins.

Crow Hunter · July 11, 2012, 02:33 PM

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Shouldn't he adjust the front sight to the right if it's shooting to the right?

Yes.

He was tapping the rear sight in it's dovetail though. I don't know that you can adjust the front sight on a model 60, can you?

I didn't examine the rifle, he just came to me after he bought it and told me it was shooting way to the right. I don't know what his definition of
"way" is. He is from Wisconsin originally, if he had been from the South, I would know.

I told him to tap the rear sight to the left with a punch. He came back and said he got it to about 2" to the right at the equivalent distance to across our lab. (Which is right about 15 yards)

moxie · July 11, 2012, 02:41 PM

I love my 60, but the stock sights are horrible. Spend the $$ and get a set of Tech Sights. You'll be glad you did.

http://www.tech-sights.com/marlin.htm

Mr Budha · July 11, 2012, 02:58 PM

I need to look up some videos on how to properly adjust the stock sight on my 60.

I was looking at those tech sights and although I'd like to have em, $70-$80 just doesn't make sense for iron sights on a rifle that costs $160.00 to begin with.

zincwarrior · July 11, 2012, 03:38 PM

Alternatively put a scope on it. Following the rule of "scope = price of rifle" we have a 3x-9x scope of equivalent price on it (looks huge on it actually). We also have it on high mounts such that I can shoot iron sights as well. Its dead accurate, even if the trigger is a bit stiff for my taste.

seanc · July 13, 2012, 12:36 PM

Crow Hunter: I second the scope recomendation. Has your buddy tried putting a scope on his Marlin? Do you have an extra scope laying around? You don't need an expensive scope to get good results, but definitely, dump the cheap POS they sell in the package deal, like I got. Putting a GOOD scope on mine was the best move I've ever made. One of my hunting buddies that can't keep his hands off my Mosin-Nagant now can't get enough of my little .22LR, even with the crappy stock trigger. The accuracy is addictive.

Some day, I'll replace the trigger. A good replacement trigger isn't that expensive.

Crow Hunter · July 13, 2012, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Crow Hunter: I second the scope recomendation. Has your buddy tried putting a scope on his Marlin? Do you have an extra scope laying around? You don't need an expensive scope to get good results, but definitely, dump the cheap POS they sell in the package deal, like I got. Putting a GOOD scope on mine was the best move I've ever made. One of my hunting buddies that can't keep his hands off my Mosin-Nagant now can't get enough of my little .22LR, even with the crappy stock trigger. The accuracy is addictive.

Some day, I'll replace the trigger. A good replacement trigger isn't that expensive.

He is an odd bird. If there is something about a gun that isn't "perfect" he will get rid of it.

I tell him to stop looking for things before he doesn't have any more guns left.

July 7, 2012, 04:48 PM	#1
Single Six Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2010 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,522	Are New Marlin Model 60s Actually Remlins? A separate thread I started in this forum got me to wondering about this. I have no interest in starting the "10/22 vs. Model 60" thing again, but the title of this thread says it all. I keep hearing about how Marlin quality has gone down since being acquired by Remington, thereby giving us "Remlins". So, do the currently-produced Model 60s also suffer from this problem, or are they still a solid buy? Thanks, guys.

July 11, 2012, 06:57 AM	#2
Single Six Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2010 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,522	....and the silence is deafening. Oh well, I guess no one here has recently bought a Model 60.

July 11, 2012, 08:46 AM	#3
johnbt Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Richmond, Virginia USA Posts: 6,004	Good or bad, they are Remlins. I can't tell you anything about the quality, but Remington closed the Marlin plant and iirc only 3 employees moved to the new location. And I don't think they were all production workers. There was a recent post on Marlinowners.com that said the Model 60 will get a makeover "soon." The guy said "you heard it here first" so take it for what it's worth.

July 11, 2012, 08:53 AM	#4
Crow Hunter Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2012 Posts: 1,078	A guy I work with got one about 3 months or so ago. It shoots 2 inches to the right of point of aim at 15 yards and this is with the sight drifted to the left some. I don't know how far to the right it shot before he tried drifting it some. He also got a little bit of bore cleaner on the receiver cleaning it and took the "paint" finish right off. He said it was very consistent and never had a failure to feed or fire but he doesn't like it. He is trying to sell it. He is the only person that I know that has a newer one.

July 11, 2012, 09:14 AM	#5
Single Six Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2010 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,522	Thanks, guys, I had thought this one wasn't going to get any responses. Still trying to talk myself into a .22 rifle, but from what I'm hearing, the Ruger 10/22 keeps looking better and better.

July 11, 2012, 10:19 AM	#7
Mr Budha Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 115	I bought a Marlin 60 a about four months ago. I don't really have anything negative to say about it. Pretty sweet gun. I do need to take it to the 100 yard range and see how it does (I haven't adjusted the sights at all). But I have shot it about 400 rounds. Wouldn't really think to sell it..unless it was for that special edition "tactd out" 10/22 :P

July 11, 2012, 01:48 PM	#8
seanc Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 1998 Posts: 624	Shouldn't he adjust the front sight to the right if it's shooting to the right? If the gun has good groups, it's a good gun. Sounds like you just need to fix the shooter or the sights. Lastly, my model 60 was bought back in the early 1990's, but the front sight wasn't adjustable. It's easily removable, but not adjustable. For windage, I'd have to drift-adjust the rear leaf sight, which I've only had to do when I replaced the stock sights with Williams sights.

July 11, 2012, 02:33 PM	#10
ripnbst Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 2010 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 1,560	Whether or not they are a solid buy doesn't make them not Remlins.

July 11, 2012, 02:41 PM	#12
moxie Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2006 Location: TX Posts: 513	I love my 60, but the stock sights are horrible. Spend the $$ and get a set of Tech Sights. You'll be glad you did. http://www.tech-sights.com/marlin.htm

July 11, 2012, 02:58 PM	#13
Mr Budha Senior Member Join Date: May 8, 2012 Location: South Florida Posts: 115	I need to look up some videos on how to properly adjust the stock sight on my 60. I was looking at those tech sights and although I'd like to have em, $70-$80 just doesn't make sense for iron sights on a rifle that costs $160.00 to begin with.

July 11, 2012, 03:38 PM	#14
zincwarrior Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2011 Location: Texas, land of Tex-Mex Posts: 2,261	Alternatively put a scope on it. Following the rule of "scope = price of rifle" we have a 3x-9x scope of equivalent price on it (looks huge on it actually). We also have it on high mounts such that I can shoot iron sights as well. Its dead accurate, even if the trigger is a bit stiff for my taste.

July 13, 2012, 12:36 PM	#15
seanc Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 1998 Posts: 624	Crow Hunter: I second the scope recomendation. Has your buddy tried putting a scope on his Marlin? Do you have an extra scope laying around? You don't need an expensive scope to get good results, but definitely, dump the cheap POS they sell in the package deal, like I got. Putting a GOOD scope on mine was the best move I've ever made. One of my hunting buddies that can't keep his hands off my Mosin-Nagant now can't get enough of my little .22LR, even with the crappy stock trigger. The accuracy is addictive. Some day, I'll replace the trigger. A good replacement trigger isn't that expensive.