More to come and California leads the way!

crossbones · August 3, 2000, 03:12 AM

Lawdog, more is comming. When do you say, enought!!

FULL ALERT www.calnra.org FULL ALERT

AB-273 Licensing and Registration Bill on the Move
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Commentary from the CRPA www.crpa.org

AB273: A Predecessor To Confiscation!

PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY

SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HEARING AUGUST 7TH or 8th
WRITE, FAX AND CALL SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND

GOVERNOR DAVIS -

916-445-2841
916-445-4633 fax

AB273 was greatly expanded in June to become the single most oppressive
bill to lawful firearms owners of the current legislative year. Although
its provisions are massive, its goals can be briefly summarized as follows:

l)To make the acquisition of a handgun by anyone except law enforcement
personnel very difficult.

2) To register all handguns in California and

3) to require licensing of individuals who are "allowed" by the government
to own a handgun before one can even be acquired!

It is obvious from the debates in legislative hearings and comments from
the supporters of AB273 that if it were to become law, they would
immediately introduce follow up legislation to extend its coverage to all
rifles and shotguns as well.

AB273 is a key component of the long range goal of liberal extremists to
ban entirely the private ownership or possession of any firearm! It is a
prime example of why the elections in November are so critically
important!! AB273 will be set tor hearing in the Senate Appropriations
Committee sometime between August 7th and the 8th

SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE

Snail mail address for the governor and senators

Senator or Governor ____________________
State Capitol
Sacramento, CA 95814

Patrick Johnston. SD 5 916-445-2407
Chairman 209-948-7993 fax

Tim Leslie SD 1 916-445-5788
Vice Chairman No fax listed

Dede Alpert SD 39 916-445-3952
916-327-2188 fax

Debra Brown SD 28 916-445-5953
No fax Listed

John Burton SD 3 916-445-1412
916-445-4722 fax

Martha Escutia SD 30 916-327-8315
323-724-6566 fax

Ross Johnson SD 35 916-445-4961
949-833-0696 fax

Betty Karmette 916-445-6447
916-327-9113 fax

Dave Kelley SD 37 916-445-5581
916-327-2187 fax

Bruce McPherson SD 15 916-445-5843
916-445-8081 fax

Richard Mountjoy SD 29 916-445-2848
626-445-3591 fax

Don Perata SD 9 916-445-6577
510-286-3885 fax

John Vasconcellos SD 13 916-445-9740
916-324-0283 fax

Committee Consultant 916-445-3284
No fax listed

oberkommando · August 3, 2000, 03:44 AM

Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shown, that Mankind are more diposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when....

The history of REPEATED Injuries and Upsurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an ABSOLUTE TYRANNY over these states.

We are far from "ABSOLUTE TYRANNY", so I think you should cool down. I am also oppressed by the peoples republik of kalifornia, so Im in the same boat.Civil disobediance and armed revolution are two very differnt things. As to your millions of armed marchers, read the top part about people tolerating sufferage and there is your answer why it wont happen, Jefferson called it a long time ago.

Though it might just be me, but Germans should be the last ones to decide to lock n load, seeing how things have gotten out of hand just a bit in the past, however thats just MHO.

Jolly Roger, don't forget a lot of members here havent experienced the cuting edge of gun control as californians have. Give it a little thought, if you live up in Idaho or Wyoming were very little oppression is on or about you, you will more likely tolerate some abuse in a state thousands of miles away and wonder how that screwed up state got that way, and try an impove your state so it wont be infected with "liberal" ideas like california.

When and if the issue reaches Critical Mass it could very well be here in Kalifornia, but as I see it, it would be a small group or a couple people that set off a storm of protest as is usually the case. If gun owners were cohesive enough to march in the millions they would have voted in the millions and kicked the treasonous politicians to the curb by now. It is a romantic thought but not very realistic.

[This message has been edited by oberkommando (edited August 03, 2000).]

TheBluesMan · August 3, 2000, 08:05 AM

Ongoing thread here: http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/fo...threadid=28237

Closing this duplicate topic.

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RKBA!
"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4
Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website

August 3, 2000, 03:12 AM	#1
crossbones Junior member Join Date: May 30, 2000 Posts: 19	Lawdog, more is comming. When do you say, enought!! FULL ALERT www.calnra.org FULL ALERT AB-273 Licensing and Registration Bill on the Move ======================================= Commentary from the CRPA www.crpa.org AB273: A Predecessor To Confiscation! PLEASE DISTRIBUTE WIDELY SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE HEARING AUGUST 7TH or 8th WRITE, FAX AND CALL SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE AND GOVERNOR DAVIS - 916-445-2841 916-445-4633 fax AB273 was greatly expanded in June to become the single most oppressive bill to lawful firearms owners of the current legislative year. Although its provisions are massive, its goals can be briefly summarized as follows: l)To make the acquisition of a handgun by anyone except law enforcement personnel very difficult. 2) To register all handguns in California and 3) to require licensing of individuals who are "allowed" by the government to own a handgun before one can even be acquired! It is obvious from the debates in legislative hearings and comments from the supporters of AB273 that if it were to become law, they would immediately introduce follow up legislation to extend its coverage to all rifles and shotguns as well. AB273 is a key component of the long range goal of liberal extremists to ban entirely the private ownership or possession of any firearm! It is a prime example of why the elections in November are so critically important!! AB273 will be set tor hearing in the Senate Appropriations Committee sometime between August 7th and the 8th SENATE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE Snail mail address for the governor and senators Senator or Governor ____________________ State Capitol Sacramento, CA 95814 Patrick Johnston. SD 5 916-445-2407 Chairman 209-948-7993 fax Tim Leslie SD 1 916-445-5788 Vice Chairman No fax listed Dede Alpert SD 39 916-445-3952 916-327-2188 fax Debra Brown SD 28 916-445-5953 No fax Listed John Burton SD 3 916-445-1412 916-445-4722 fax Martha Escutia SD 30 916-327-8315 323-724-6566 fax Ross Johnson SD 35 916-445-4961 949-833-0696 fax Betty Karmette 916-445-6447 916-327-9113 fax Dave Kelley SD 37 916-445-5581 916-327-2187 fax Bruce McPherson SD 15 916-445-5843 916-445-8081 fax Richard Mountjoy SD 29 916-445-2848 626-445-3591 fax Don Perata SD 9 916-445-6577 510-286-3885 fax John Vasconcellos SD 13 916-445-9740 916-324-0283 fax Committee Consultant 916-445-3284 No fax listed

August 3, 2000, 03:44 AM	#2
oberkommando Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 1999 Posts: 1,158	Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shown, that Mankind are more diposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed. But when.... The history of REPEATED Injuries and Upsurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an ABSOLUTE TYRANNY over these states. We are far from "ABSOLUTE TYRANNY", so I think you should cool down. I am also oppressed by the peoples republik of kalifornia, so Im in the same boat.Civil disobediance and armed revolution are two very differnt things. As to your millions of armed marchers, read the top part about people tolerating sufferage and there is your answer why it wont happen, Jefferson called it a long time ago. Though it might just be me, but Germans should be the last ones to decide to lock n load, seeing how things have gotten out of hand just a bit in the past, however thats just MHO. Jolly Roger, don't forget a lot of members here havent experienced the cuting edge of gun control as californians have. Give it a little thought, if you live up in Idaho or Wyoming were very little oppression is on or about you, you will more likely tolerate some abuse in a state thousands of miles away and wonder how that screwed up state got that way, and try an impove your state so it wont be infected with "liberal" ideas like california. When and if the issue reaches Critical Mass it could very well be here in Kalifornia, but as I see it, it would be a small group or a couple people that set off a storm of protest as is usually the case. If gun owners were cohesive enough to march in the millions they would have voted in the millions and kicked the treasonous politicians to the curb by now. It is a romantic thought but not very realistic. [This message has been edited by oberkommando (edited August 03, 2000).]

August 3, 2000, 08:05 AM	#3
TheBluesMan Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 15, 1999 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,558	Ongoing thread here: http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/fo...threadid=28237 Closing this duplicate topic. ------------------ RKBA! "The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security" Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4 Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio. Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website