Some hateful speech against NRA members

[Garand Illusion]

The below is so hateful I just wanted to make sure everyone else could see what the other side is doing.

I realize that the anti's have no logic to support them, so they have no choice but to deal with snide remarks and condescending and insulting arguments based strictly on emtion, but isn't calling all of the 90 million or so gun owners in the United States anti-children going a little far?

Shoot Machine Guns, Raise Money for Republicans

As if it wasn’t already obvious how much the gun lobby is in bed with the Republican Party, this “machine gun shoot out” on August 5th makes it crystal clear.

Isn’t it so interesting how overweight, middle-aged white guys like to pretend they’re important. How sad their lives must be to prove their “manliness” by shooting a machine gun. How sad is your existence — your day to day boring life — that a machine gun shoot makes your whole summer. That way, you can fantasize what it would be like to fight in a war — not that many of the attendees have ever been in one. Not that these “tough guys” even have a clue what violence and war actually look like.

We wonder if there is any correlation between the attendees weight and the number of rounds they hope to fire? Hopefully they can just sit back and plunk away. Doing any kind of physical exertion or running up a hill with an Uzi might be too much.

So anything that men like to do is "compensating" for something.

I guess for that matter, being a blind supporter of groups like FSA and gunguys.com is to compensate for being born with too little intelligence to understand what it means to give up civil rights. Or too little courage to be a citizen of a truly free nation.

And from Yesterday, there's this:

Send a Message to Sesame Workshop CEO: Put Down the Gun Elmo!

As we noted earlier this week, CeaseFire NJ has brought attention to the National Rifle Association’s fundraising strategy that is offering discounted tickets to Sesame Place and other kid-friendly theme parks - in return for donations to the NRA’s political arm, the Institute for Legislative Action (ILA).

Well, CeaseFire NJ is not letting up with their campaign, “Put the gun down, Elmo!” — which is sure to cause some headaches. The group is calling on Americans to send a letter to Sesame Workshop CEO Gary Knell.

You gotta click on this link just to see the great graphic of Elmo holding a gun.

PR nightmare for Sesame Place? I’d say so. For a children’s educational company to partner with the NRA is simply perverse.

I'll bet 80% of NRA members are family people. Most of the ones I know are.

[armoredman]

My counter.



I am very pro children, especially my own.

[Waitone]

A little information on the Freedom States Alliance
http://www.freedomstatesalliance.com/mission.php

Not surprising the rhetoric is hateful.

[oldbillthundercheif]

Ha!

They think there are not many vets at machine-gun shoots! Hilarious. The various branches of the US military juggernaut are the ones responsible for hooking so many fine young Americans on the sport. I bet old vets who have made some cash in private life after leaving the service make up 50% of the people involved in machine-gun shoots.

[PTR 91]

Who ever wrote that "how sad is your exsitence your day to day boring life that a machine gun shoot makes your whole summer". I guess writing any pointless crap just to get attention makes his whole summer. The other side doesn't have a leg to stand on so they just lash out at firearms owners, it's quite pathetic.

[crowbeaner]

Hmmm. I just saw on CBS a few fast looks at the agendas they have. It was a fast forward on topics. Three in particular that I DID catch were: Gun Control, Global Warming and Climate Control. I guess there isn't any question what to expect from the liberal mainstream? media, is there. Get comfortable for a long fight guys and gals; it's going to be a long one. So much for their flashes of the future. And we ALL know what the liberal dumocrats are up to.

[Manedwolf]

Olbermann apparently did a screaming rant about the upcoming event as well.

There's no hate like liberal hate.

[Wildalaska]

All the fringers are getting hysterical

WilditsthattimeofyearAlaska

[Justme]

People are stupid.

[Wildalaska]

People are stupid.

Notice how they left off Alaska and hawaii from their US map, not that anyone up here would give a hoot about them

WildjairiemonAlaska

[nibbler]

Isn’t it so interesting how overweight, middle-aged white guys like to pretend they’re important. How sad their lives must be to prove their “manliness” by shooting a machine gun. How sad is your existence — your day to day boring life — that a machine gun shoot makes your whole summer. That way, you can fantasize what it would be like to fight in a war — not that many of the attendees have ever been in one. Not that these “tough guys” even have a clue what violence and war actually look like.

We wonder if there is any correlation between the attendees weight and the number of rounds they hope to fire? Hopefully they can just sit back and plunk away. Doing any kind of physical exertion or running up a hill with an Uzi might be too much.

Without naming any names, implying anyone's position or generalizing at all, I do think their is some merit to this argument.

Lets be realistic here- a lot of the attendees of this event WILL be overweight and even more will be middle aged. It is foolish to suggest that this is a good look when you're playing soldiers.

Although this article itself is a generalization, I would not for a minute pretend there's no truth in it.

[BillCA]

Lets be realistic here- a lot of the attendees of this event WILL be overweight and even more will be middle aged. It is foolish to suggest that this is a good look when you're playing soldiers.

Although this article itself is a generalization, I would not for a minute pretend there's no truth in it.

Didn't I just read some statistic that said 75% of Americans would be "overweight" by 2015?

Let's see here... Machinegun shoot: An event with the ability to rapidly turn large piles of cash into noise.

Yup, I'd say the majority of shooters will be "middle aged" or older because they're the ones who have the most disposable income. I doubt many $6.50/hr burger flippers will show up with a $2500 gun and $1,000 worth of ammo to shoot. Or academics. Or college students.

Ever notice on those YouTube videos that first time machinegun shooters almost invariably turn their heads to the camera with a BIG grin on their faces? That's because it's fun.

[Crpng Incrementalism]

Didn't I just read some statistic that said 75% of Americans would be "overweight" by 2015?

say the majority of shooters will be "middle aged" or older because they're the ones who have the most disposable income. I doubt many $6.50/hr burger flippers will show up with a $2500 gun and $1,000 worth of ammo to shoot. Or academics. Or college students.

Considering wealth, I'd still say that even younger shooters are heavier than average. At least that's what I notice at my local gun shop. The clerks there aren't making a killing monetarily, but they're definitely more overweight on average than the typical retail clerk their age. When I say "on average" for the late teen/early 20s... its more like either you are the "Michelin Man" or you are not. And the gunshop is definitely more Michelin Man in regards to the young clerks than the typical retail establishment with clerks of similar age.

[Bud Helms]

Welcome to TFL, Crpng Incrementalism.

[FirstFreedom]

I find that the NRA is NOT really pro-Republican at all. They are simply pro-gun-rights, and it's the dumb Democrats at the federal level who have shot themselves in the foot by being anti-gun; the NRA has no choice but to strongly oppose their shenanigans. The NRA is continuously giving A and A+ recommendations to Democrats in thousands of races nationwide in their candidate ratings - freely and happily given to Dems who are pro-gun - 95% of the time, when this happens, it is at the state level.

Lots of liberals have this illogical view of the NRA (one inlaw who served in Vietnam and owns several guns told me he'd never join the NRA because they're the "National Republican Army"). Well duh - it's the chicken & the egg - have the Dems stop supporting gun bans, and the NRA might endorse them! No "might" about it, actually - they would.

I DO find however, and this irks me, that the NRA IS pro-incumbent, meaning that in a race where an incumbent who has gained some power, who has only say, a B+ or A rating, will be endorsed over a newcomer (regardless of party, mind you), with an A+ gun record. I can't fault them too much because I see where they're coming from, but I'd rather they go for purity over practicality and endorse the A+ guy or gal.

As for antis spewing hatred - bah, par for the course - they're idiots; whaddya gonna do?

[Northern Sod Breaker]

Why is it that when some one mentions "Middle aged and over weight" Michael Moore comes to mind. I don't imagine he's done exercise in a long while.

[Manedwolf]

How sad their lives must be to prove their “manliness” by shooting a machine gun. How sad is your existence — your day to day boring life — that a machine gun shoot makes your whole summer.

As opposed to proving one's manliness by mindlessly buying a new flatscreen that will depreciate in value and become useless in a few years? Or any new must-have gadget?

Or being obsessed with what's going on with the next American Idle show, or sitting on a freaking couch watching TV, period?

Or sitting in a chair pretending to be a hero in World of Warcraft?

Yeah.

I'd rather be outside. And to whomever wrote that article, I tend to go from the range to the gym to do freeweights. Quite in shape...and young, too.

Stereotypes are seldom universal.

[O.C. 4 U]

As opposed to proving one's manliness by mindlessly buying a new flatscreen that will depreciate in value and become useless in a few years? Or any new must-have gadget?

Yeah, the guy who wrote that article was probably one of the first in line for the new "i" phone.

[Al Norris]

[sidetrack]

Originally Posted by FirstFreedom

I DO find however, and this irks me, that the NRA IS pro-incumbent, meaning that in a race where an incumbent who has gained some power, who has only say, a B+ or A rating, will be endorsed over a newcomer (regardless of party, mind you), with an A+ gun record.

I have to take an exception to this, FF.

A newcomer has no record. While you or anyone else, might agree with their stance on the 2A, at the State or Federal level, they have no record. Whatever they may have done at a local level, most times has no correlation to what they may do at the level of the State legislature, and most particularly, the Federal Legislature.

This why the NRA will back an incumbent. They know what the incumbent will do, while the newcomer is a virtual unknown.

[/sidetrack]

[workinwifdakids]

(I see what you were going for there, but it's not High Road.)

[Don Gwinn]

I'm not anti-child.

I just don't think they should be running political crusade websites.

[mvpel]

Wow, national publicity for the event thanks to Olberman - I've been looking forward to it for a while, now I just can't wait!

I'll be manning the GO-NH table between stints of turning money into noise, so if you come out to Pelham, please be sure to introduce yourself.

[Manedwolf]

Wow, national publicity for the event thanks to Olberman - I've been looking forward to it for a while, now I just can't wait!

I'll be manning the GO-NH table between stints of turning money into noise, so if you come out to Pelham, please be sure to introduce yourself.

I'm all for the liberals flipping out over this. It will dispel the rockstar cloud around their candidates, and show the vast majority of Americans that despite the pretenses at "moderate" facades, they're still the same foaming loonies at their core. And once the pictures of happily families get out, they'll look even dumber. I hope the press doesn't mob it, though! That could ruin the fun...is the club ready to stop the press trucks?

Glad it's happening now. The organizer of this even might just have changed the course of American history for the better by waking people up and preventing a Hillbama regime. Does he realize that?

His actions have gone national and are making people realize "Wow...these democrats ARE still the same old democrats we threw out back then..."

[workinwifdakids]

You could have banned me, but I appreciate the work you do around here and I thank you for the edit instead.

I do get cranky, but I try not to get out of line. For the rest of you, Don's all right in my book.

[Crosshair]

It may be noise, but it is very fun noise. I don't even bother with fireworks anymore, too small.