Oppose gun control? Alabama says you're a terrorist

dasmi · May 10, 2007, 01:08 PM

http://www.homelandsecurity.alabama....i-gov_grps.htm
If opposing big government, and gun control, and respect of this flag

make me a terrorist, then I wear the title with pride.

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Few people involved in this self styled “Patriot Movement” are criminals but there are some on the extreme fringe that are convinced that the Government has been subverted and that their freedoms must be aggressively defended to the point of attacks on our governing institutions.

Kinda like how our founders attacked their governing institutions.

dasmi · May 10, 2007, 01:51 PM

Bump.
I just called the Governor's office. I suggest everyone does the same.
334-242-7100

FirstFreedom · May 10, 2007, 03:21 PM

but of course we all knew it was only a matter of time before the "terrorists" were anyone that the government doesn't like particularly well. And so the "war on terror" becomes the "war on citizens who speak their minds and/or act a little off".

Previously, it was only the Southern Poverty Law Center that branded anti-government groups as "hate" groups or "terrorist" groups - now the government agrees with those whackos???

Mad Martigan · May 11, 2007, 10:10 PM

The page is gone.

dasmi · May 11, 2007, 10:25 PM

Mirrored here.
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ncleo...i-gov_grps.htm

SuckLead · May 12, 2007, 11:10 PM

It really is amazing. I keep getting this continuous loop of McCarthy and his list of card carrying communists in my head. Anyone else?

mrawesome22 · May 13, 2007, 01:06 AM

The U.S.A. was founded on the principles of overthrowing a government the "people" were sick of.

Today if that thought enters your mind, you are automatically a terrorist.

Hold on. There is a knock at my door.

It's homeland securiasbdiubayubdfuasd ....................

JimR · May 13, 2007, 09:58 PM

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It really is amazing. I keep getting this continuous loop of McCarthy and his list of card carrying communists in my head. Anyone else?

McCarthy was largely proven to have been correct, by the Venona Papers, which became available in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. In other words, that's not a very good analogy.

junkpile · May 13, 2007, 10:59 PM

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McCarthy was largely proven to have been correct, by the Venona Papers, which became available in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. In other words, that's not a very good analogy.

Though the list was a shopping list or somesuch. The claiming of something like that, the whipping up of hysteria against a certain group with little to go on, whether or not the group is deserving of it, is what the analogy is referring to

FirstFreedom · May 14, 2007, 12:18 AM

No, it's quite an apt analogy, because the point is,

IT DOESN'T MATTER one bit whether they were communists - that was their right under, ya know, the 1st amendment.

Just like IT DOESN'T MATTER whether someone is anti-big-government, and/or anti-gun-laws. It does NOT follow that they are thus "hate groups" nor "terrorists", domestic or otherwise. Ya know, under the 1st & 2nd amendments.

IOW, one's got nothing to do with the other.

jimpeel · May 14, 2007, 02:25 AM

From the Purdue link:

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In fact, we fought a civil war over the issue of individual and states versus federal rights.

Shouldn't that have been:

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In fact, we fought a civil war over the issue of individual rights and states' powers versus federal powers.

MrApathy · May 14, 2007, 02:43 AM

use the way back machine.
http://www.archive.org/web/web.php

the information posted is right up there with the FBI joint terrorism brochure that was released years ago and scrapped.

jimpeel · May 14, 2007, 02:50 AM

<Sherman>Thank you Mr. Peabody!</Sherman>

Slugthrower · May 14, 2007, 07:49 AM

Virgina just put through a regional transportation taxation program. This program can raise taxes at will. We the people of VA didn't approve it, nor were we given a referendum to seek public approval. Taxation without representation is what it is. We fought the Revolutionary War over this very reason. America and the States that make her are going down to a class of politicians that believe that we are nothing more than subjects to their crown. If the Founders were alive today they would be called "terrorists". Time to wake up.

May 10, 2007, 03:21 PM	#3
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	The link you provided is bad but of course we all knew it was only a matter of time before the "terrorists" were anyone that the government doesn't like particularly well. And so the "war on terror" becomes the "war on citizens who speak their minds and/or act a little off". Previously, it was only the Southern Poverty Law Center that branded anti-government groups as "hate" groups or "terrorist" groups - now the government agrees with those whackos???

May 14, 2007, 02:43 AM	#12
MrApathy Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2004 Posts: 529	use the way back machine. http://www.archive.org/web/web.php the information posted is right up there with the FBI joint terrorism brochure that was released years ago and scrapped. __________________ Divided and conquered, Gripped by fear Wishful thinking that it can't happen here It's well underways but nobody knows A repeat of history, That's how it goes

May 10, 2007, 01:51 PM	#2
dasmi Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2005 Posts: 882	Bump. I just called the Governor's office. I suggest everyone does the same. 334-242-7100

May 11, 2007, 10:10 PM	#4
Mad Martigan Senior Member Join Date: March 29, 2006 Posts: 444	The page is gone.

May 11, 2007, 10:25 PM	#5
dasmi Senior Member Join Date: January 18, 2005 Posts: 882	Mirrored here. http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/ncleo...i-gov_grps.htm

May 12, 2007, 11:10 PM	#6
SuckLead Member Join Date: April 27, 2007 Posts: 63	It really is amazing. I keep getting this continuous loop of McCarthy and his list of card carrying communists in my head. Anyone else?

May 13, 2007, 01:06 AM	#7
mrawesome22 Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2005 Location: Ohio, Appalachia's foothills. Posts: 3,779	The U.S.A. was founded on the principles of overthrowing a government the "people" were sick of. Today if that thought enters your mind, you are automatically a terrorist. Hold on. There is a knock at my door. It's homeland securiasbdiubayubdfuasd ....................

May 14, 2007, 12:18 AM	#10
FirstFreedom Junior member Join Date: May 31, 2004 Location: The Toll Road State, U.S.A. Posts: 12,451	No, it's quite an apt analogy, because the point is, IT DOESN'T MATTER one bit whether they were communists - that was their right under, ya know, the 1st amendment. Just like IT DOESN'T MATTER whether someone is anti-big-government, and/or anti-gun-laws. It does NOT follow that they are thus "hate groups" nor "terrorists", domestic or otherwise. Ya know, under the 1st & 2nd amendments. IOW, one's got nothing to do with the other.

May 14, 2007, 02:50 AM	#13
jimpeel Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 1999 Location: Longmont, CO, USA Posts: 4,530	<Sherman>Thank you Mr. Peabody!</Sherman>

May 14, 2007, 07:49 AM	#14
Slugthrower Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2006 Posts: 823	Virgina just put through a regional transportation taxation program. This program can raise taxes at will. We the people of VA didn't approve it, nor were we given a referendum to seek public approval. Taxation without representation is what it is. We fought the Revolutionary War over this very reason. America and the States that make her are going down to a class of politicians that believe that we are nothing more than subjects to their crown. If the Founders were alive today they would be called "terrorists". Time to wake up.