A Bill to Save A Child - HR 1580

abruzzi · May 11, 1999, 09:15 PM

This is the verbatim text of H.R.1580:

106th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 1580
To prohibit the sale of guns that have not been approved by the Secretary of the Treasury, and for other purposes.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

April 27, 1999
Ms. LOFGREN (for herself, Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York, Ms. WATERS, Mrs. MINK of Hawaii, Mr. LANTOS, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island, Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD, Ms. LEE, Mr. CONYERS, and Mr. MCGOVERN) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

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A BILL
To prohibit the sale of guns that have not been approved by the Secretary of the Treasury, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Save a Child Act of 1999'.

SEC. 2. PROHIBITIONS WITH RESPECT TO UNAPPROVED GUNS.

(a) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it shall be unlawful, with such exceptions for law enforcement and other legitimate purposes as the Secretary of the Treasury by rule provides, to sell, purchase, or possess any firearm (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code) that is not approved by the Secretary. The Secretary shall not approve for the purposes of this section the Intratec TEC-9 and similar weapons.

(b) PENALTY- Whoever possesses a firearm in violation of subsection (a) shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for 5 years, or both.

(c) EFFECTIVE DATE- This section shall take effect 30 days after the date the Secretary first makes rules under subsection (a).

Miss .357 · May 11, 1999, 10:40 PM

You have got to be x!>?!*o9t kidding me! The Secretary of the Treasury is now a gun expert. I suppose that if this were to pass and God forbid a child were to be shot be another child using one of these 'forbidden' guns, the Secretary of Treasury be held accountable for the act. Yeah, right.

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"Time changes everything"

David Schmidbauer · May 11, 1999, 10:50 PM

Mrs .357

Your missing the Point... the BIG point.

> any firearm that is not approved by the Secretary.<

Meaning he has to make a list of "approved" firearms. Not like, as of late, "unapproved" ones.

This in could result in a list of a very limited list along the lines of "12 gauge S/S O/U Shotfuns, 30-30 Lever Action Rifles, and .22 Single Action Revolvers". These they could claim (temporarily of course) have "ligetimate" hunting applications.

ALL ELSE.... EVERYTHING THAT IS... not falling within that criteria would be ILLEGAL!!

WE MUST STOP THIS BILL AT ALL COST!!!!

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Schmit, GySgt, USMC(Ret)
NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS
"Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

Join NRA today! (SEF) · May 11, 1999, 11:31 PM

BATF operates from under the wing of Dept. of Treasury.
Need I say more......

Ed Brunner · May 12, 1999, 09:12 AM

We have very few leglislative chances left. After that,it becomes dangerous.

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Better days to be,

Ed

John/az2 · May 12, 1999, 10:26 AM

Yes, Ed. It appears that all peaceful avenues of redress are being closed...

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John/az

"Just because something is popular, does not make it right."

www.countdown9199.com

Coinneach · May 13, 1999, 06:38 PM

John,

I had that same thought... actually, that thought has been keeping me awake at night for the last several months.

Our rights are consistently ignored. Our desires are consistently ignored. The facts of gun ownership are consistently ignored.

Peaceful resistance has gotten us absolutely nowhere. We tell the politicritters, "Hey, you can't do that!", and they say, "Oh yeah? Watch us!"

How far do we have to be pushed before we start pushing back?

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"Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est."
(The sword does not kill; it is a tool in the hands of the killer.)
--Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)

May 11, 1999, 09:15 PM	#1
abruzzi Senior Member Join Date: April 24, 1999 Location: Hurricane, WV, USA Posts: 192	This is the verbatim text of H.R.1580: 106th CONGRESS 1st Session H. R. 1580 To prohibit the sale of guns that have not been approved by the Secretary of the Treasury, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES April 27, 1999 Ms. LOFGREN (for herself, Mrs. MCCARTHY of New York, Ms. WATERS, Mrs. MINK of Hawaii, Mr. LANTOS, Ms. WOOLSEY, Mr. KENNEDY of Rhode Island, Ms. MILLENDER-MCDONALD, Ms. LEE, Mr. CONYERS, and Mr. MCGOVERN) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A BILL To prohibit the sale of guns that have not been approved by the Secretary of the Treasury, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Save a Child Act of 1999'. SEC. 2. PROHIBITIONS WITH RESPECT TO UNAPPROVED GUNS. (a) IN GENERAL- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it shall be unlawful, with such exceptions for law enforcement and other legitimate purposes as the Secretary of the Treasury by rule provides, to sell, purchase, or possess any firearm (as defined in section 921 of title 18, United States Code) that is not approved by the Secretary. The Secretary shall not approve for the purposes of this section the Intratec TEC-9 and similar weapons. (b) PENALTY- Whoever possesses a firearm in violation of subsection (a) shall be fined under title 18, United States Code, or imprisoned for 5 years, or both. (c) EFFECTIVE DATE- This section shall take effect 30 days after the date the Secretary first makes rules under subsection (a).

May 11, 1999, 10:40 PM	#2
Miss .357 Member Join Date: May 3, 1999 Posts: 25	You have got to be x!>?!*o9t kidding me! The Secretary of the Treasury is now a gun expert. I suppose that if this were to pass and God forbid a child were to be shot be another child using one of these 'forbidden' guns, the Secretary of Treasury be held accountable for the act. Yeah, right. ------------------ "Time changes everything"

May 11, 1999, 10:50 PM	#3
David Schmidbauer Retired Screen Name Join Date: November 17, 2000 Posts: 396	Mrs .357 Your missing the Point... the BIG point. > any firearm that is not approved by the Secretary.< Meaning he has to make a list of "approved" firearms. Not like, as of late, "unapproved" ones. This in could result in a list of a very limited list along the lines of "12 gauge S/S O/U Shotfuns, 30-30 Lever Action Rifles, and .22 Single Action Revolvers". These they could claim (temporarily of course) have "ligetimate" hunting applications. ALL ELSE.... EVERYTHING THAT IS... not falling within that criteria would be ILLEGAL!! WE MUST STOP THIS BILL AT ALL COST!!!! ------------------ Schmit, GySgt, USMC(Ret) NRA Life, Lodge 1201-UOSSS "Si vis Pacem Para Bellum"

May 11, 1999, 11:31 PM	#4
Join NRA today! (SEF) Member Join Date: May 11, 1999 Posts: 61	BATF operates from under the wing of Dept. of Treasury. Need I say more......

May 12, 1999, 09:12 AM	#5
Ed Brunner Senior Member Join Date: October 12, 1998 Location: Natchez, MS, USA Posts: 2,562	We have very few leglislative chances left. After that,it becomes dangerous. ------------------ Better days to be, Ed

May 12, 1999, 10:26 AM	#6
John/az2 Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 1999 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,729	Yes, Ed. It appears that all peaceful avenues of redress are being closed... ------------------ John/az "Just because something is popular, does not make it right." www.countdown9199.com

May 13, 1999, 06:38 PM	#7
Coinneach Staff Alumnus Join Date: February 23, 1999 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 4,272	John, I had that same thought... actually, that thought has been keeping me awake at night for the last several months. Our rights are consistently ignored. Our desires are consistently ignored. The facts of gun ownership are consistently ignored. Peaceful resistance has gotten us absolutely nowhere. We tell the politicritters, "Hey, you can't do that!", and they say, "Oh yeah? Watch us!" How far do we have to be pushed before we start pushing back? ------------------ "Quemadmoeum gladius neminem occidit, occidentis telum est." (The sword does not kill; it is a tool in the hands of the killer.) --Seneca "the Younger" (ca. 4 BC-65 AD)