I want to build a gun

bigbearcb · February 5, 2006, 05:57 PM

Hello all I am wanting to build a gun ive been told to do the kit thing from scratch and many others too. But I want your opion about this topic I dont care what type of gun rifle pistol it dont matter. If you could help me out it would be great.

Marlboro Man · February 5, 2006, 05:59 PM

I would say to you that you first need to decide on what gun you want to build and then come back.

cntryboy1289 · February 5, 2006, 11:55 PM

You can build so many different guns that you really have to know what type of gun you want to build. I would advise you to visit this forum, it has a lot of good inforamtion and a lot of knowledgable folks there that can help answer any questions you might have:

http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi?

About the only thing that will limit you is your imagination. A machining background would be nice as well as the machines to go with it, but you can use your imagination and build a lot of guns with various hand tools as well.

makar15 · February 6, 2006, 05:14 PM

You also have to watch out to because alot (most) kits are full auto and you may have to buy a few parts to make them legal.

cntryboy1289 · February 6, 2006, 05:20 PM

You are correct, but most of the kits come with enough parts for them to be legal. These kits weren't what I was talking about though. The poster was asking about building a gun, not putting on parts from a kit.

Now, you can buy 0% up to 80% frames and do the machining yourself or you can just make one from a set of plans and I thought this is what the poster was talking about.

They are legal to build for yourself by yourself as long as you don't intend to sell the gun. Lot's of people build their own guns this way and have a good time doing so.

makar15 · February 6, 2006, 06:02 PM

What I was talking about was building a gun from parts kits. You know where you buy the parts out of say shot gun news then have your local dealer order a receiver or frame for you then you assemble the parts.

keebo52 · February 6, 2006, 07:47 PM

I've built several AKs from kits. It's lots of fun and really not that hard. There are several discussion groups on the net that have great tutorials on how to build AKs. Try http://www.gunco.net/forums/ and http://www.surplusrifle.com for build information.

makar15 · February 7, 2006, 01:01 AM

keebo, I have a question about your aks are they full auto because most of those kits are full auto kits and what if you live in a state that does not allow full auto the you are in trouble.

cntryboy1289 · February 7, 2006, 01:56 AM

None of the kits that are for sale in the US are supposed to be able to be full auto. I haven't seen any myself that say they come with full auto capabilities. I of course may be wrong about it. Most kits have to have a certain number of parts on it that make it compliant with the 1968 rules. BTW, no state allows the use of a full auto without the Feds selling you the stamp to have one.

keebo52 · February 7, 2006, 11:10 AM

cntryboy1289 is right. Full auto is illegal anywhere in the USA. The kits usually come with the original full-auto fire control group but most have the full-auto disconnector removed. All my AKs are legal builds which means they are semi-auto and have the correct number of US made compliance parts required by the feds. You MUST have at least 6 US made parts for the AK to be legal. To be safe, most builders replace the full-auto fire control group with US made semi-auto parts. That still leaves 3 additional parts to be replaced. I replaced the fire control group (3 parts), the pistol grip, the gas piston and the receiver. If you want to get everything in one kit, you can buy kits that have the compliance parts included from Tapco and other vendors. Here is a link that explains the compliance parts thing. http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=696 This site (Gunco.net) has the answer to all your build questions. If you do a search you can find the answer. IF not, just post your question and they there will be happy to help you. Of course, I'll help any way I can but the folks at gunco have MUCH more experience that me.

Good luck on the build.

jclaude · February 8, 2006, 05:05 PM

Do you have a budget in mind for this project? If so, it could probably help with some recommendations.

Budget or not, I will cast my vote for a sporter weight Mauser actioned bolt rifle in your choice of calibers.

walter in florida · February 9, 2006, 02:23 PM

I bought a used H & R model 622 which had been dry fired much to much and has a cylinder with deep ruts on some of the cylinder's chambers. I will have to replace the hammer which is messed up also, but not plactical if I need a new cylinder. Is there a cheap way of repairing the cylinder such as liquid steel or other products? I always carried my reading glasses, except the time I bought this revolver. I don not want to spend 75,00 to fix a 50.00 gun. Thanks walter in florida.

Handy · February 9, 2006, 04:09 PM

Walter, there is a tool for ironing out/shaving firing pin burrs on .22 chambers. I think I remember seeing it in Brownells catalog, so you could give them a call or talk to a gunsmith.

The ruts won't go away, but the raised sections will. I don't think the ruts will cause trouble on their own.

Harry Bonar · February 9, 2006, 06:32 PM

Dear Sir:
I would sincerely suggest that if you want to "build a gun" that you build a muzzle-loader from scratch!
Harry B.

fhp490 · February 11, 2006, 09:01 PM

I agree with Harry B
go to the web sight and it will give you an idea
you will have a lot of fun doing it and the pride when it is finished
you will also learn a lot about fitting and finisning

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/catego...77&styleID=300

precision40 · February 20, 2006, 02:55 AM

If your not on a tight budget, you can always start with an AR15. Complete parts kits can be had for $600-$700 from DPMS. Brownells has some excellent videos about building an AR. I've built a couple and had a GREAT time doing so. Theres nothing to be scared about, the parts are basically drop-in.

The AR was designed to be extremely easy to build and maintain.

Lazy D · February 20, 2006, 10:16 AM

I would highly recommend you get one of these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7220511938

superpelly · February 20, 2006, 04:51 PM

All you need is a nice stick and some rubber bands and you got yourself a really cool rubber-band stick gun.

I think some little kid is being a little prankster!!!!!

Kids, these days!!!

Don P · February 21, 2006, 07:48 PM

I'm just curious if you intend on building a pistol or a rifle. I may be wrong here but as I understand it if building a pistol you will need a FFL to purchase the frame and not sure about rifle parts.

mxwelch · February 22, 2006, 08:46 AM

A frame for a pistol or a receiver for a rifle will require a FFL dealer. Stripped or completely assembled, it doesn't matter. Anything else you can buy without it.

Dave Haven · February 23, 2006, 12:15 AM

Quote:

A frame for a pistol or a receiver for a rifle will require a FFL dealer.

Unless you make it yourself.

February 5, 2006, 05:57 PM	#1
bigbearcb Junior Member Join Date: February 5, 2006 Location: IOWA Posts: 9	I want to build a gun Hello all I am wanting to build a gun ive been told to do the kit thing from scratch and many others too. But I want your opion about this topic I dont care what type of gun rifle pistol it dont matter. If you could help me out it would be great.

February 5, 2006, 11:55 PM	#3
cntryboy1289 Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2004 Location: Ms Posts: 1,160	info for you You can build so many different guns that you really have to know what type of gun you want to build. I would advise you to visit this forum, it has a lot of good inforamtion and a lot of knowledgable folks there that can help answer any questions you might have: http://www.homegunsmith.com/cgi-bin/ib3/ikonboard.cgi? About the only thing that will limit you is your imagination. A machining background would be nice as well as the machines to go with it, but you can use your imagination and build a lot of guns with various hand tools as well.

February 6, 2006, 05:20 PM	#5
cntryboy1289 Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2004 Location: Ms Posts: 1,160	right but, You are correct, but most of the kits come with enough parts for them to be legal. These kits weren't what I was talking about though. The poster was asking about building a gun, not putting on parts from a kit. Now, you can buy 0% up to 80% frames and do the machining yourself or you can just make one from a set of plans and I thought this is what the poster was talking about. They are legal to build for yourself by yourself as long as you don't intend to sell the gun. Lot's of people build their own guns this way and have a good time doing so.

February 7, 2006, 01:56 AM	#9
cntryboy1289 Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2004 Location: Ms Posts: 1,160	Where are you buying full auto kits from? None of the kits that are for sale in the US are supposed to be able to be full auto. I haven't seen any myself that say they come with full auto capabilities. I of course may be wrong about it. Most kits have to have a certain number of parts on it that make it compliant with the 1968 rules. BTW, no state allows the use of a full auto without the Feds selling you the stamp to have one.

February 8, 2006, 05:05 PM	#11
jclaude Senior Member Join Date: January 3, 2006 Location: Coastal North Carolina Posts: 157	Budget? Do you have a budget in mind for this project? If so, it could probably help with some recommendations. Budget or not, I will cast my vote for a sporter weight Mauser actioned bolt rifle in your choice of calibers. Last edited by jclaude; February 8, 2006 at 08:02 PM.

February 5, 2006, 05:59 PM	#2
Marlboro Man Junior member Join Date: January 29, 2006 Location: Good ole USA Posts: 206	I would say to you that you first need to decide on what gun you want to build and then come back.

February 6, 2006, 05:14 PM	#4
makar15 Member Join Date: December 4, 2005 Posts: 45	You also have to watch out to because alot (most) kits are full auto and you may have to buy a few parts to make them legal.

February 6, 2006, 06:02 PM	#6
makar15 Member Join Date: December 4, 2005 Posts: 45	What I was talking about was building a gun from parts kits. You know where you buy the parts out of say shot gun news then have your local dealer order a receiver or frame for you then you assemble the parts.

February 6, 2006, 07:47 PM	#7
keebo52 Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2005 Posts: 244	I've built several AKs from kits. It's lots of fun and really not that hard. There are several discussion groups on the net that have great tutorials on how to build AKs. Try http://www.gunco.net/forums/ and http://www.surplusrifle.com for build information.

February 7, 2006, 01:01 AM	#8
makar15 Member Join Date: December 4, 2005 Posts: 45	keebo, I have a question about your aks are they full auto because most of those kits are full auto kits and what if you live in a state that does not allow full auto the you are in trouble.

February 7, 2006, 11:10 AM	#10
keebo52 Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 2005 Posts: 244	cntryboy1289 is right. Full auto is illegal anywhere in the USA. The kits usually come with the original full-auto fire control group but most have the full-auto disconnector removed. All my AKs are legal builds which means they are semi-auto and have the correct number of US made compliance parts required by the feds. You MUST have at least 6 US made parts for the AK to be legal. To be safe, most builders replace the full-auto fire control group with US made semi-auto parts. That still leaves 3 additional parts to be replaced. I replaced the fire control group (3 parts), the pistol grip, the gas piston and the receiver. If you want to get everything in one kit, you can buy kits that have the compliance parts included from Tapco and other vendors. Here is a link that explains the compliance parts thing. http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=696 This site (Gunco.net) has the answer to all your build questions. If you do a search you can find the answer. IF not, just post your question and they there will be happy to help you. Of course, I'll help any way I can but the folks at gunco have MUCH more experience that me. Good luck on the build.

February 9, 2006, 02:23 PM	#12
walter in florida Senior Member Join Date: May 3, 2005 Location: Seminole County, Florida Posts: 240	A 22RF, Dry Fired too Much I bought a used H & R model 622 which had been dry fired much to much and has a cylinder with deep ruts on some of the cylinder's chambers. I will have to replace the hammer which is messed up also, but not plactical if I need a new cylinder. Is there a cheap way of repairing the cylinder such as liquid steel or other products? I always carried my reading glasses, except the time I bought this revolver. I don not want to spend 75,00 to fix a 50.00 gun. Thanks walter in florida.

February 9, 2006, 04:09 PM	#13
Handy Junior member Join Date: August 31, 2001 Posts: 8,785	Walter, there is a tool for ironing out/shaving firing pin burrs on .22 chambers. I think I remember seeing it in Brownells catalog, so you could give them a call or talk to a gunsmith. The ruts won't go away, but the raised sections will. I don't think the ruts will cause trouble on their own.

February 9, 2006, 06:32 PM	#14
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	building a gun Dear Sir: I would sincerely suggest that if you want to "build a gun" that you build a muzzle-loader from scratch! Harry B.

February 11, 2006, 09:01 PM	#15
fhp490 Member Join Date: September 30, 2005 Posts: 32	I agree with Harry B go to the web sight and it will give you an idea you will have a lot of fun doing it and the pride when it is finished you will also learn a lot about fitting and finisning http://www.trackofthewolf.com/catego...77&styleID=300

February 20, 2006, 02:55 AM	#16
precision40 Junior Member Join Date: February 19, 2006 Posts: 4	If your not on a tight budget, you can always start with an AR15. Complete parts kits can be had for $600-$700 from DPMS. Brownells has some excellent videos about building an AR. I've built a couple and had a GREAT time doing so. Theres nothing to be scared about, the parts are basically drop-in. The AR was designed to be extremely easy to build and maintain.

February 20, 2006, 10:16 AM	#17
Lazy D Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Indian Territory Posts: 192	If you are going to an AR I would highly recommend you get one of these. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7220511938

February 20, 2006, 04:51 PM	#18
superpelly Senior Member Join Date: February 17, 2005 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 499	All you need is a nice stick and some rubber bands and you got yourself a really cool rubber-band stick gun. I think some little kid is being a little prankster!!!!! Kids, these days!!! Last edited by superpelly; February 22, 2006 at 11:28 AM.

February 21, 2006, 07:48 PM	#19
Don P Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 2005 Location: Swamp dweller Posts: 6,213	Build a gun I'm just curious if you intend on building a pistol or a rifle. I may be wrong here but as I understand it if building a pistol you will need a FFL to purchase the frame and not sure about rifle parts.

February 22, 2006, 08:46 AM	#20
mxwelch Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2006 Posts: 379	A frame for a pistol or a receiver for a rifle will require a FFL dealer. Stripped or completely assembled, it doesn't matter. Anything else you can buy without it.