Questions regarding shoulder stocks for pistols and such (mainly legal)

balzaK · December 24, 2005, 01:58 PM

http://www.lonewolfdist.com/searchre...arch=MAK-GLR17
http://www.brayleyballistics.com/acc...ing_stock.html
http://www.onlythebestfirearms.com/glockstock.html
http://www.impulsegunbarrels.com/onl...inersystem.htm
http://www.ccfa.com/Glock_IFRAME.htm

The second-to-last link says something about advising that USA customers attatch the shoulder stock to the Glock only after attatching the 16" barrel extension. The very last link says something about the shoulder stock being unable to fold (to remain legal). Is there really any way to attatch a shoulder stock to a Glock and remain legal (specifically California)?

Other questions...

Is the Mech Tech CCU (Carbine Conversion Unit) legal In California? Also, anyone know if the barrel extensions (like the ones in the second-to-last link) work well?

Hkmp5sd · December 24, 2005, 03:57 PM

I would recommend contacting ATF directly for your questions about using the folding stock on a Glock 17 pistol. In the past, ATF has been all over the road with their decisions. They sometimes claim having the folding stock and a pistol, even if you also have a 16" barrel, is illegal. They then turn around and claim it is only illegal if the stock is attached while the original handgun barrel is installed.

The safest option would be to register the Glock 17 as a SBR and not have to worry about it.

As for the folding/pinned stock, that went away with the end of the federal AW ban last year. However, I don't believe CA allows folding stocks under their state AW ban.

smince · December 24, 2005, 08:51 PM

Sorry, but like most good weapons, the Mechtech CCU's ARE NOT Cali-legal.

balzaK · December 24, 2005, 09:59 PM

Why is that? Not even if someone payed the $200 to register it?

OneInTheChamber · December 24, 2005, 10:00 PM

with a stock it either becomes a carbine (<16'' barrel) or an assault rifle (>16'' barrel with a pistol grip). Sorry, no stock for you comrade (communist republic of California) <------ I can say that, cause I'm stuck there too

Chase

balzaK · December 24, 2005, 10:15 PM

Is this because of the 1994 10-year Assault Weapons Ban? I know that it ended last year, but was it ever renewed?

smince · December 25, 2005, 07:29 AM

The AWB wasn't renewed, but Cali has it's own set of laws to go by, and in most cases state gun laws supercede Federal gun laws anyway.

An example: I have a C&R license. I can order rifles and handguns that are considered Curio and Relic straight to my house, but in Cali a CR handgun still has to go through a regular dealer for transfer.

But for what its worth, I think some of the East coast states are worse off than you guys are.

balzaK · December 25, 2005, 12:54 PM

So a Glock equiped with a stock and/or 16" barrel would be illegal in California regardless and could not be legally registered as an Assault Weapon?

December 24, 2005, 01:58 PM	#1
balzaK Junior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Posts: 9	Questions regarding shoulder stocks for pistols and such (mainly legal) http://www.lonewolfdist.com/searchre...arch=MAK-GLR17 http://www.brayleyballistics.com/acc...ing_stock.html http://www.onlythebestfirearms.com/glockstock.html http://www.impulsegunbarrels.com/onl...inersystem.htm http://www.ccfa.com/Glock_IFRAME.htm The second-to-last link says something about advising that USA customers attatch the shoulder stock to the Glock only after attatching the 16" barrel extension. The very last link says something about the shoulder stock being unable to fold (to remain legal). Is there really any way to attatch a shoulder stock to a Glock and remain legal (specifically California)? Other questions... Is the Mech Tech CCU (Carbine Conversion Unit) legal In California? Also, anyone know if the barrel extensions (like the ones in the second-to-last link) work well?

December 24, 2005, 03:57 PM	#2
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	I would recommend contacting ATF directly for your questions about using the folding stock on a Glock 17 pistol. In the past, ATF has been all over the road with their decisions. They sometimes claim having the folding stock and a pistol, even if you also have a 16" barrel, is illegal. They then turn around and claim it is only illegal if the stock is attached while the original handgun barrel is installed. The safest option would be to register the Glock 17 as a SBR and not have to worry about it. As for the folding/pinned stock, that went away with the end of the federal AW ban last year. However, I don't believe CA allows folding stocks under their state AW ban.

December 24, 2005, 08:51 PM	#3
smince Junior member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Location: Northeast Alabama Posts: 2,580	Sorry, but like most good weapons, the Mechtech CCU's ARE NOT Cali-legal.

December 24, 2005, 09:59 PM	#4
balzaK Junior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Posts: 9	Why is that? Not even if someone payed the $200 to register it?

December 24, 2005, 10:00 PM	#5
OneInTheChamber Senior Member Join Date: December 12, 2005 Posts: 789	with a stock it either becomes a carbine (<16'' barrel) or an assault rifle (>16'' barrel with a pistol grip). Sorry, no stock for you comrade (communist republic of California) <------ I can say that, cause I'm stuck there too Chase

December 24, 2005, 10:15 PM	#6
balzaK Junior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Posts: 9	Is this because of the 1994 10-year Assault Weapons Ban? I know that it ended last year, but was it ever renewed?

December 25, 2005, 07:29 AM	#7
smince Junior member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Location: Northeast Alabama Posts: 2,580	The AWB wasn't renewed, but Cali has it's own set of laws to go by, and in most cases state gun laws supercede Federal gun laws anyway. An example: I have a C&R license. I can order rifles and handguns that are considered Curio and Relic straight to my house, but in Cali a CR handgun still has to go through a regular dealer for transfer. But for what its worth, I think some of the East coast states are worse off than you guys are.

December 25, 2005, 12:54 PM	#8
balzaK Junior Member Join Date: December 21, 2005 Posts: 9	So a Glock equiped with a stock and/or 16" barrel would be illegal in California regardless and could not be legally registered as an Assault Weapon?