1858 Parts Kit From Cabelas

MPP1423 · November 26, 2005, 03:51 AM

Can Anyone Tell Me How To Order The Parts Kit That Everyone Has Talked About For The 1858 Rem From Cabelas?i Called To Order The Kit And The Clerk Said That They Did Not Show One.

Remington kid · November 26, 2005, 08:10 AM

Kevin, It could be that they no longer carry it and that's a real bad deal! For
$18.00 you got everything you could ever need including the hammer and trigger. I bought three of them years ago.
They were not listed in the catalog back then either. I asked to speak to someone about a problem I was having with my 1858 Remington and some guy who knew whay he was talking about came on the line. He's the one who told me about the kit they have and he gave me the item number.
I may still have that number somewhere, I'll look for it today. Maybe it will help.
They also carried a nice cylinder bench loader for $19.00 and like a dummy I never bought one. Now you can't find them anywhere except for some company that sells one for $55.00. I'm building my own!

Track of the wolf and Dixie carry seperate parts and I believe EMS has them also.

mec · November 26, 2005, 09:21 AM

VTI Gunparts lists parts for both Uberti and Dixie 58s.

Remington kid · November 26, 2005, 10:52 AM

Kevin, Here is just what my notes say. I wrote them in the booklet you get with the guns so I would have it, this is for the Remington .44:
1-800-237-4444 ask for gun parts:
Parts from Cabelas- Item order # SA-214052-885 Price $18.00.

It's been a few years but this is what I have, hope it helps, Mike

MPP1423 · November 26, 2005, 12:20 PM

Thanks Guys!i Knew About Vti And I Have Bought From Them Before But It Sounded Like The Kit From Cabelas Was A Much Better Deal.mike Did You Read My Question About Over Heating The Cylinder?whay Do You Think?

MPP1423 · November 26, 2005, 12:31 PM

Hey Mike,good Deal,they Had The Kit For 17.99!the # Helped.its Ordered And On The Way.thanks Again.

Remington kid · November 26, 2005, 12:36 PM

Kevin, Look at your thread about over heating the cylinder. I answerd it early this morning and it posted it three times but it doesn't show up unless you open your thread,Lol. Had all kinds of problems with this site this morning.
If you open it and still don't see anything from me let me know and I'll try it again

MPP1423 · November 26, 2005, 12:43 PM

Hey I Got It Mike And Answered You Back.im Still Not Showing Any Replies But They Are There,all Well.

Remington kid · November 26, 2005, 05:04 PM

Kevin, Wow!! It's good to know you can still get them for that price! I love Cabelas

On some sites the hammer alone cost more than that. Make sure you read about how to temper your hammer in that Gunsmithing book you got. I think that's in there. If not let me know and I'll tell you how to do it. The hammer comes a little soft and needs tempering or it will show dings in short order where it hits the frame after striking the cap.
I'm working on making a cylinder bench loader for my .44 .I found out that you need one to load the new bullets I was telling you about because there isn't enough room between the cylinder and the ram to load them in the Remington. I need a bench loader anyway. It makes life easier and it's alot leass use or stress on the guns ram.

MPP1423 · November 26, 2005, 05:26 PM

once again,thanks for the info mike!

Old Dragoon · November 26, 2005, 07:54 PM

Hey Guys, does that parts kit include the trigger spring screw?? Big dummy here. I took my new Rem. apart and put all the innards in a small box. I wasn't planning on browning that screw and I thought I put it with all the others. I went to reassemble today and the trigger spring screw is missing. I have looked high and low, all over this place and I cannot find it. Darn! Any Ideas? Or do I have to send to Pietta for one?
I will go get my parts magnet and drag it around here. I have been on hands and knees with a flashlight and the whole nine yards.
Sign me stuck High and Dry.

Remington kid · November 26, 2005, 08:17 PM

Old Dragoon, i don't think it includes the screws but I could be wrong. I'll have to dig mine out in the morning and see what's in there.
You can buy seperate parts from several places, Dixie, EMF,Track of the wolf and so on.
Check your shirt pockets or whatever you were wearing when you removed the screw.You may also want to put in a clean sweeping bag in the vacum and try that. You just may suck it up. I hate it when sh$$t like that happens!

Steve499 · November 26, 2005, 09:33 PM

Sorry to hear about that, Old Dragoon, but I'm glad I'm not the only one with a screw loose............

Steve

Remington kid · November 26, 2005, 10:06 PM

LOL, Steve your feeling better!

MPP1423 · November 26, 2005, 10:06 PM

dragoon,ill let ya know when mine arrives.hey steve,where you been?had'nt heard from you in a while.

Old Dragoon · November 27, 2005, 01:04 AM

Yeah, I've turned this place upside down and it just isn't here. It is maddening.

Oh by the way you can find the replacement parts onliine by typing in the number that RK gave us the new part number is: XS-214052 on the Cabela's website.
and you have to tell them what you want it for Rem blued or stainless or others.

If Rk confirms that there are screws in the kit I'll order one tomorrow.
if not I guess I'll start looking for the screw seperately.

Steve499 · November 27, 2005, 12:22 PM

Kevin, I had to deer hunt and then cut up 4 deer. Then a friend passed away and right after that I had a bout with the flu or food poisoning or CHOLERA or some other form of plague. Wasn't on the computer at all from November 11 until yesterday.
Old Dragoon, I lost one of the tiny split collars that holds the firing pin spring on the firing pin of my Glock when I was cleaning it, about 2 hours before I had to go on duty. A Glock is not a firearm without both halves of that collar and I had to have a firearm to go on duty. After 10 minutes of frustration and 20 or so minutes of panic, I finally got it on a magnet (did you know a butcher's steel becomes magnetized over time and fits under the edges of a refrigerator?) Anyway, I know how much a thing like that hacks you off. I don't take my guns apart in the kitchen anymore it traumatized me so.

Steve

Remington kid · November 27, 2005, 12:33 PM

Old Dragoon, I keep my extra parts wraped in a oli clothe and then in a zip lock bag. I never found one screw in there and I don't remember replacing any on my Remingtons. I also have about 24 extra nipples and I'm not sure if they come with the kit either. Sorry I'm not much help but it's been a while since I ordered them.If you order any screws it would be a good idea to get a complete set for what they cost.
I know with Cabelas kit you get a hammer, trigger, paw,hand with the spring, trigger spring and hammer spring.

Old Dragoon · November 27, 2005, 12:46 PM

Thanks RK,
I'll order a few extra screws and things from Dixie along with their new catalog. Golly. I remember meeting Turner Kirkland at Friendship Indiana back in the late Sixties.
I know he has passed on now. but I haven'ty had one of their catalogs for many, many years. Lotsa good stufss and lotsa stuff I wouldn't walk across the street for, but a great source for parts.

tinker2 · November 27, 2005, 04:29 PM

Every year or so I take all the gun parts that I lost
and had to replace, then found after I replaced it,
I have this big box marked doodads that I put them
in to keep. Well anyway like I said every year I put
two or three guns together out of that box.

A few years back I made a part for one of my customers,
I got it almost all the way done and set it down. I lost
it. I spent two weeks trying to find it. So I gave up.
I decided to make another one, I got it almost all the
way done, to the same point of the one I had lost, and
what do you know, I set it down on top of the first one.

I got this plan, take two old bath tubs. Seal the drain
on one, get in it with the gun and your tools. Then
Have the other tub lowered upside-down on top.
Hang a light down through the top drain so you can
see.

Happy Holidays

Old Dragoon · November 27, 2005, 06:44 PM

I got to thinking on my way to church this morning, that I think below a certain size, Metric and 'MERICAN screw threads are one and same pitch. After Church I perused the local hardware store's supply of 'MERICAN and Metric screws. Well I bought 2 6-32 x 1/4 lgth.machine screws. 2, 8-32 by 3/8, 2 10-32 x 3/8 and two each of the metric equivilent. $1.32 cents worth altogether. Came home and checked out the thread size....it was the first one I picked up the 6-32 x 1/4 a whole 5 cent screw. I had to shorten the head depth a bit to clear the Trigger Guard, but it fits the frame just fine, 1/2 thread below bottom of the cylinder frame (so as not to pin the cylinder or drag agin it.)

I'll take the advice about the doodad box and I will replace the one I bought for the real one, but at least until the parts come from Dixie, I can shoot both.
Ok so I'm a dummy for not finding the lost one yet.... but like I have said before, The Lord protects fools and children.

FYI the threads are the same for the screw that tensions the hammer spring and the trigger springs as well. The same screw will not work as the trigger spring hole is to large but with a washer??? and filing down the head depth....can work.
Cheaper to go buy the 6-32 x 1/4 . Beats 3 bucks for the right screw, and a weeks wait, in a pinch.

I gots two bathtubs on order too...LOL

Yahoo.! now where did I put the that bag of new screws???..........LOL

Remington kid · November 27, 2005, 07:20 PM

Wow, I'll bet it would be funny to watch Old Dragoon and Tinker2 working on the same Remington in the same bathtub at the same time!

MPP1423 · November 27, 2005, 07:40 PM

Man,thats Not A Pretty Picture!!! Lol.where Do You Get These Ideas Mike?lol.by The Way Mike,we Had A Bad One Last Night! A 16 Yr Old Was Car Surfing(riding On The Hood) At 50 Mph And Came Off In A Curb Onto The Roadway In One Of Our South Nashville Parks.it Killed Him Instantly.i Didnt Get Off This Morning Till 4am.real Bad Scene!!

MPP1423 · November 27, 2005, 08:05 PM

Hey Mike,good News! I Just Went To The Possible Shop Web Site To Look Around And They Have That Bench Loader You Want For 14.99.this Guy Has A Lot Of Things All At One Place.i Have Bought From Him Many Times And He Is Cool To Deal With Too.his Name Is Don.

Old Dragoon · November 27, 2005, 08:21 PM

RK.\, Tub Picture? Even I cannot fathom that picture.

MPP1423, Man that's a real bummer of a night, for you and a forever for the kid's folks.

I remember being 16 and feeling invincable and I did until one of my friends died at 18 trying to hold down a mattress on a pickup truck moving their stuff to a new house. Seems no one thought about tying the darn thing down as they were only going 6 blocks. My invincability died that afternoon.

November 26, 2005, 03:51 AM	#1
MPP1423 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2005 Location: GOODLETTSVILLE,TN Posts: 298	1858 Parts Kit From Cabelas Can Anyone Tell Me How To Order The Parts Kit That Everyone Has Talked About For The 1858 Rem From Cabelas?i Called To Order The Kit And The Clerk Said That They Did Not Show One.

November 27, 2005, 01:04 AM	#16
Old Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Location: The Republic of Californi Posts: 581	Yeah, I've turned this place upside down and it just isn't here. It is maddening. Oh by the way you can find the replacement parts onliine by typing in the number that RK gave us the new part number is: XS-214052 on the Cabela's website. and you have to tell them what you want it for Rem blued or stainless or others. If Rk confirms that there are screws in the kit I'll order one tomorrow. if not I guess I'll start looking for the screw seperately. Last edited by Old Dragoon; November 27, 2005 at 06:59 PM.

November 27, 2005, 04:29 PM	#20
tinker2 Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Dakotas Posts: 144	Lost but not forgoten Every year or so I take all the gun parts that I lost and had to replace, then found after I replaced it, I have this big box marked doodads that I put them in to keep. Well anyway like I said every year I put two or three guns together out of that box. A few years back I made a part for one of my customers, I got it almost all the way done and set it down. I lost it. I spent two weeks trying to find it. So I gave up. I decided to make another one, I got it almost all the way done, to the same point of the one I had lost, and what do you know, I set it down on top of the first one. I got this plan, take two old bath tubs. Seal the drain on one, get in it with the gun and your tools. Then Have the other tub lowered upside-down on top. Hang a light down through the top drain so you can see. Happy Holidays

November 27, 2005, 06:44 PM	#21
Old Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Location: The Republic of Californi Posts: 581	Fixed the '58 for 5 cents or $1.32 whichever way you want to look at it I got to thinking on my way to church this morning, that I think below a certain size, Metric and 'MERICAN screw threads are one and same pitch. After Church I perused the local hardware store's supply of 'MERICAN and Metric screws. Well I bought 2 6-32 x 1/4 lgth.machine screws. 2, 8-32 by 3/8, 2 10-32 x 3/8 and two each of the metric equivilent. $1.32 cents worth altogether. Came home and checked out the thread size....it was the first one I picked up the 6-32 x 1/4 a whole 5 cent screw. I had to shorten the head depth a bit to clear the Trigger Guard, but it fits the frame just fine, 1/2 thread below bottom of the cylinder frame (so as not to pin the cylinder or drag agin it.) I'll take the advice about the doodad box and I will replace the one I bought for the real one, but at least until the parts come from Dixie, I can shoot both. Ok so I'm a dummy for not finding the lost one yet.... but like I have said before, The Lord protects fools and children. FYI the threads are the same for the screw that tensions the hammer spring and the trigger springs as well. The same screw will not work as the trigger spring hole is to large but with a washer??? and filing down the head depth....can work. Cheaper to go buy the 6-32 x 1/4 . Beats 3 bucks for the right screw, and a weeks wait, in a pinch. I gots two bathtubs on order too...LOL Yahoo.! now where did I put the that bag of new screws???..........LOL

November 26, 2005, 08:10 AM	#2
Remington kid Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: South Central West Virginia Posts: 611	Kevin, It could be that they no longer carry it and that's a real bad deal! For $18.00 you got everything you could ever need including the hammer and trigger. I bought three of them years ago. They were not listed in the catalog back then either. I asked to speak to someone about a problem I was having with my 1858 Remington and some guy who knew whay he was talking about came on the line. He's the one who told me about the kit they have and he gave me the item number. I may still have that number somewhere, I'll look for it today. Maybe it will help. They also carried a nice cylinder bench loader for $19.00 and like a dummy I never bought one. Now you can't find them anywhere except for some company that sells one for $55.00. I'm building my own! Track of the wolf and Dixie carry seperate parts and I believe EMS has them also.

November 26, 2005, 09:21 AM	#3
mec Junior member Join Date: December 6, 2001 Posts: 1,536	VTI Gunparts lists parts for both Uberti and Dixie 58s.

November 26, 2005, 10:52 AM	#4
Remington kid Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: South Central West Virginia Posts: 611	Kevin, Here is just what my notes say. I wrote them in the booklet you get with the guns so I would have it, this is for the Remington .44: 1-800-237-4444 ask for gun parts: Parts from Cabelas- Item order # SA-214052-885 Price $18.00. It's been a few years but this is what I have, hope it helps, Mike

November 26, 2005, 12:20 PM	#5
MPP1423 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2005 Location: GOODLETTSVILLE,TN Posts: 298	Thanks Guys!i Knew About Vti And I Have Bought From Them Before But It Sounded Like The Kit From Cabelas Was A Much Better Deal.mike Did You Read My Question About Over Heating The Cylinder?whay Do You Think?

November 26, 2005, 12:31 PM	#6
MPP1423 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2005 Location: GOODLETTSVILLE,TN Posts: 298	Hey Mike,good Deal,they Had The Kit For 17.99!the # Helped.its Ordered And On The Way.thanks Again.

November 26, 2005, 12:36 PM	#7
Remington kid Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: South Central West Virginia Posts: 611	Kevin, Look at your thread about over heating the cylinder. I answerd it early this morning and it posted it three times but it doesn't show up unless you open your thread,Lol. Had all kinds of problems with this site this morning. If you open it and still don't see anything from me let me know and I'll try it again

November 26, 2005, 12:43 PM	#8
MPP1423 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2005 Location: GOODLETTSVILLE,TN Posts: 298	Hey I Got It Mike And Answered You Back.im Still Not Showing Any Replies But They Are There,all Well.

November 26, 2005, 05:04 PM	#9
Remington kid Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: South Central West Virginia Posts: 611	Kevin, Wow!! It's good to know you can still get them for that price! I love Cabelas On some sites the hammer alone cost more than that. Make sure you read about how to temper your hammer in that Gunsmithing book you got. I think that's in there. If not let me know and I'll tell you how to do it. The hammer comes a little soft and needs tempering or it will show dings in short order where it hits the frame after striking the cap. I'm working on making a cylinder bench loader for my .44 .I found out that you need one to load the new bullets I was telling you about because there isn't enough room between the cylinder and the ram to load them in the Remington. I need a bench loader anyway. It makes life easier and it's alot leass use or stress on the guns ram.

November 26, 2005, 05:26 PM	#10
MPP1423 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2005 Location: GOODLETTSVILLE,TN Posts: 298	once again,thanks for the info mike!

November 26, 2005, 07:54 PM	#11
Old Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Location: The Republic of Californi Posts: 581	Hey Guys, does that parts kit include the trigger spring screw?? Big dummy here. I took my new Rem. apart and put all the innards in a small box. I wasn't planning on browning that screw and I thought I put it with all the others. I went to reassemble today and the trigger spring screw is missing. I have looked high and low, all over this place and I cannot find it. Darn! Any Ideas? Or do I have to send to Pietta for one? I will go get my parts magnet and drag it around here. I have been on hands and knees with a flashlight and the whole nine yards. Sign me stuck High and Dry.

November 26, 2005, 08:17 PM	#12
Remington kid Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: South Central West Virginia Posts: 611	Old Dragoon, i don't think it includes the screws but I could be wrong. I'll have to dig mine out in the morning and see what's in there. You can buy seperate parts from several places, Dixie, EMF,Track of the wolf and so on. Check your shirt pockets or whatever you were wearing when you removed the screw.You may also want to put in a clean sweeping bag in the vacum and try that. You just may suck it up. I hate it when sh$$t like that happens!

November 26, 2005, 09:33 PM	#13
Steve499 Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 533	Sorry to hear about that, Old Dragoon, but I'm glad I'm not the only one with a screw loose............ Steve

November 26, 2005, 10:06 PM	#14
Remington kid Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: South Central West Virginia Posts: 611	LOL, Steve your feeling better!

November 27, 2005, 12:22 PM	#17
Steve499 Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2004 Location: Central Missouri Posts: 533	Kevin, I had to deer hunt and then cut up 4 deer. Then a friend passed away and right after that I had a bout with the flu or food poisoning or CHOLERA or some other form of plague. Wasn't on the computer at all from November 11 until yesterday. Old Dragoon, I lost one of the tiny split collars that holds the firing pin spring on the firing pin of my Glock when I was cleaning it, about 2 hours before I had to go on duty. A Glock is not a firearm without both halves of that collar and I had to have a firearm to go on duty. After 10 minutes of frustration and 20 or so minutes of panic, I finally got it on a magnet (did you know a butcher's steel becomes magnetized over time and fits under the edges of a refrigerator?) Anyway, I know how much a thing like that hacks you off. I don't take my guns apart in the kitchen anymore it traumatized me so. Steve

November 27, 2005, 12:33 PM	#18
Remington kid Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: South Central West Virginia Posts: 611	Old Dragoon, I keep my extra parts wraped in a oli clothe and then in a zip lock bag. I never found one screw in there and I don't remember replacing any on my Remingtons. I also have about 24 extra nipples and I'm not sure if they come with the kit either. Sorry I'm not much help but it's been a while since I ordered them.If you order any screws it would be a good idea to get a complete set for what they cost. I know with Cabelas kit you get a hammer, trigger, paw,hand with the spring, trigger spring and hammer spring.

November 27, 2005, 12:46 PM	#19
Old Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Location: The Republic of Californi Posts: 581	Thanks RK, I'll order a few extra screws and things from Dixie along with their new catalog. Golly. I remember meeting Turner Kirkland at Friendship Indiana back in the late Sixties. I know he has passed on now. but I haven'ty had one of their catalogs for many, many years. Lotsa good stufss and lotsa stuff I wouldn't walk across the street for, but a great source for parts.

November 27, 2005, 07:20 PM	#22
Remington kid Senior Member Join Date: September 15, 2005 Location: South Central West Virginia Posts: 611	Wow, I'll bet it would be funny to watch Old Dragoon and Tinker2 working on the same Remington in the same bathtub at the same time!

November 27, 2005, 07:40 PM	#23
MPP1423 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2005 Location: GOODLETTSVILLE,TN Posts: 298	Man,thats Not A Pretty Picture!!! Lol.where Do You Get These Ideas Mike?lol.by The Way Mike,we Had A Bad One Last Night! A 16 Yr Old Was Car Surfing(riding On The Hood) At 50 Mph And Came Off In A Curb Onto The Roadway In One Of Our South Nashville Parks.it Killed Him Instantly.i Didnt Get Off This Morning Till 4am.real Bad Scene!!

November 27, 2005, 08:05 PM	#24
MPP1423 Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2005 Location: GOODLETTSVILLE,TN Posts: 298	Hey Mike,good News! I Just Went To The Possible Shop Web Site To Look Around And They Have That Bench Loader You Want For 14.99.this Guy Has A Lot Of Things All At One Place.i Have Bought From Him Many Times And He Is Cool To Deal With Too.his Name Is Don.

November 27, 2005, 08:21 PM	#25
Old Dragoon Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2005 Location: The Republic of Californi Posts: 581	RK.\, Tub Picture? Even I cannot fathom that picture. MPP1423, Man that's a real bummer of a night, for you and a forever for the kid's folks. I remember being 16 and feeling invincable and I did until one of my friends died at 18 trying to hold down a mattress on a pickup truck moving their stuff to a new house. Seems no one thought about tying the darn thing down as they were only going 6 blocks. My invincability died that afternoon.