value of some rifles

spleenandideal · June 27, 2002, 09:32 PM

Please help me with a fair asking price for a couple of rifles I want to sell:

1- Enfield 2A Ishapore .308; obviously refinished surplus, very clean example...fired by me only 30 rounds. Still have importers box and instructions.

2- Ruger Mini14 Ranch Rifle, .233 stainless steel, standard factory stock, post-ban--has a Weigand weaver-type scope mount and a bushmaster AK-74style muzzle brake, 5-round factory mag, instructions. ~1500 rounds fired, in 90% condition.

3- Chinese SKS (norinco), 90% condition, with spike bayo, wood stock with plastic gas-tube handguard. I never fired it.

4- AK47-type semiauto, Polytech, preban full stock with spike bayo, ~85% condition, 16" bbl, with slant brake, one 30 round chinese blued mag.

5- Mosin Nagant M44, Polish, carbine length with the side folding spike bayo-- appears near mint, although some mild pitting in the bbl.

6- Iver Johnson M1 carbine .22LR.... W. German mfg, with 1 15 round mag, 90% condition, all wood stocks and handguard., appears parkerized.

Just trying to thin out my herd-- need the money to buy another gunsafe and rotors for my car. When I get a fair list I will try to get things straightened out with my local FFL and post in the for sale section.

Thanks a bunch for everyone's help!

Ceol Mhor · June 27, 2002, 10:17 PM

Hmmm....well, I think I could give you $25 for the whole lot...

stinger · June 27, 2002, 10:58 PM

$26 and I'll pay the shipping...

I hate it when someone sells their babies, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Good luck to you. At least if you are saving up for a new safe you aren't doing to bad.

Stinger

Ben Swenson · June 28, 2002, 12:20 AM

Don't listen to them.

$50 for all of them and I'll take care of shipping.

The mosin-nagant can be had in slightly better condition for $125. If you're willing to clean cosmoline for a couple days and/or have C&R FFL, we're talking more like $60.

can't help you with the others.

Kaylee · June 28, 2002, 02:14 AM

Here's some WAGs.. I'm sure you'll get some second opinions..

1- Enfield 2A Ishapore .308 ... $125-$150?

2- Ruger Mini14 Ranch Rifle $450-$500?

3- Chinese SKS (norinco).. Once upon a time, $80-$100. Now.... $200 or so.

4- AK47-type semiauto, Polytech..... Not a clue. Ask Tamara. I'm gussing in the 1K range for a preban.

5- Mosin Nagant M44 .... WAG -- $60????

6- Iver Johnson M1 carbine ... not even gonna hazard a guess. No idea.

YMMV.
-K

Hkmp5sd · June 28, 2002, 02:54 AM

Pre-ban Polytech "Legend" Series AK-47 ~ $700-800.

Hkmp5sd · June 28, 2002, 06:23 AM

Iver Johnson M1 carbine .22LR ~ $100 (Got home and looked in Blue Book)

Kernel · June 28, 2002, 12:57 PM

$100 is low for a .22LR Carbine clone. They haven't been imported for 7 or 8 years, they're kinda a niche item but demand is fairly strong. At gun shows I see them on tables in the $225 to $300 range - more than they sold for when new. The key thing is it has to be mechanically perfect and have a good magazine since parts are near impossible to obtain.

The Blue Book is notorious for under pricing discontinued/low volume/strong demand firearms. I remember a few years back they had the Ruger's (then) discontinued SBH "HUNTER" price at a hair over the price of a regular used SBH. In the real world the guns where going for $500 to $600 used - which was more than the HUNTER sold for when new and 2 to 3 time the price of a used SBH. -- Kernel

**4V50 Gary** · June 28, 2002, 01:09 PM

On those pre-ban Polytechs, be sure to state whether the receiver is machined or stamped. The machine receiver models command a few hundred more.

spleenandideal · June 28, 2002, 03:19 PM

The Polytech is a stamped reciever. Thanks for all the help so far....gives me a bit of a better idea on pricing.

Thought the M1.22LR woulda been worth a bit more.

spleenandideal · June 28, 2002, 03:20 PM

BTW, what does WAG mean?

Ceol Mhor · June 28, 2002, 04:07 PM

wild-a$$ guess.

Hkmp5sd · June 28, 2002, 07:23 PM

Quote:

The Blue Book is notorious for under pricing discontinued/low volume/strong demand firearms.

That is very true. Prices also tend to be greatly effected by geographic area. Gotta know what you are selling/buying and use Blue Book as a 'guide' more than fact.

June 27, 2002, 09:32 PM	#1
spleenandideal Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 1998 Location: I-77, USA Posts: 522	value of some rifles Please help me with a fair asking price for a couple of rifles I want to sell: 1- Enfield 2A Ishapore .308; obviously refinished surplus, very clean example...fired by me only 30 rounds. Still have importers box and instructions. 2- Ruger Mini14 Ranch Rifle, .233 stainless steel, standard factory stock, post-ban--has a Weigand weaver-type scope mount and a bushmaster AK-74style muzzle brake, 5-round factory mag, instructions. ~1500 rounds fired, in 90% condition. 3- Chinese SKS (norinco), 90% condition, with spike bayo, wood stock with plastic gas-tube handguard. I never fired it. 4- AK47-type semiauto, Polytech, preban full stock with spike bayo, ~85% condition, 16" bbl, with slant brake, one 30 round chinese blued mag. 5- Mosin Nagant M44, Polish, carbine length with the side folding spike bayo-- appears near mint, although some mild pitting in the bbl. 6- Iver Johnson M1 carbine .22LR.... W. German mfg, with 1 15 round mag, 90% condition, all wood stocks and handguard., appears parkerized. Just trying to thin out my herd-- need the money to buy another gunsafe and rotors for my car. When I get a fair list I will try to get things straightened out with my local FFL and post in the for sale section. Thanks a bunch for everyone's help!

June 28, 2002, 01:09 PM	#9
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 22,309	On those pre-ban Polytechs, be sure to state whether the receiver is machined or stamped. The machine receiver models command a few hundred more. __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

June 27, 2002, 10:17 PM	#2
Ceol Mhor Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2001 Posts: 1,043	Hmmm....well, I think I could give you $25 for the whole lot...

June 27, 2002, 10:58 PM	#3
stinger Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2001 Location: west texas Posts: 772	$26 and I'll pay the shipping... I hate it when someone sells their babies, but you gotta do what you gotta do. Good luck to you. At least if you are saving up for a new safe you aren't doing to bad. Stinger

June 28, 2002, 12:20 AM	#4
Ben Swenson Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2000 Posts: 1,210	Don't listen to them. $50 for all of them and I'll take care of shipping. The mosin-nagant can be had in slightly better condition for $125. If you're willing to clean cosmoline for a couple days and/or have C&R FFL, we're talking more like $60. can't help you with the others.

June 28, 2002, 02:14 AM	#5
Kaylee Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2000 Location: The Last Homely House Posts: 1,677	Here's some WAGs.. I'm sure you'll get some second opinions.. 1- Enfield 2A Ishapore .308 ... $125-$150? 2- Ruger Mini14 Ranch Rifle $450-$500? 3- Chinese SKS (norinco).. Once upon a time, $80-$100. Now.... $200 or so. 4- AK47-type semiauto, Polytech..... Not a clue. Ask Tamara. I'm gussing in the 1K range for a preban. 5- Mosin Nagant M44 .... WAG -- $60???? 6- Iver Johnson M1 carbine ... not even gonna hazard a guess. No idea. YMMV. -K

June 28, 2002, 02:54 AM	#6
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	Pre-ban Polytech "Legend" Series AK-47 ~ $700-800.

June 28, 2002, 06:23 AM	#7
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	Iver Johnson M1 carbine .22LR ~ $100 (Got home and looked in Blue Book)

June 28, 2002, 12:57 PM	#8
Kernel Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 1999 Location: Madison, WI.... "78 Square Miles Surrounded by Reality" Posts: 923	$100 is low for a .22LR Carbine clone. They haven't been imported for 7 or 8 years, they're kinda a niche item but demand is fairly strong. At gun shows I see them on tables in the $225 to $300 range - more than they sold for when new. The key thing is it has to be mechanically perfect and have a good magazine since parts are near impossible to obtain. The Blue Book is notorious for under pricing discontinued/low volume/strong demand firearms. I remember a few years back they had the Ruger's (then) discontinued SBH "HUNTER" price at a hair over the price of a regular used SBH. In the real world the guns where going for $500 to $600 used - which was more than the HUNTER sold for when new and 2 to 3 time the price of a used SBH. -- Kernel

June 28, 2002, 03:19 PM	#10
spleenandideal Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 1998 Location: I-77, USA Posts: 522	The Polytech is a stamped reciever. Thanks for all the help so far....gives me a bit of a better idea on pricing. Thought the M1.22LR woulda been worth a bit more.

June 28, 2002, 03:20 PM	#11
spleenandideal Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 1998 Location: I-77, USA Posts: 522	BTW, what does WAG mean?

June 28, 2002, 04:07 PM	#12
Ceol Mhor Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2001 Posts: 1,043	wild-a$$ guess.