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PITT5150
January 2, 2011, 10:42 PM
In the market for a bolt action 22LR. I already own a Marlin 795 for plinking cans. Any thoughts or opinions?

tAKticool
January 2, 2011, 11:20 PM
I have a Savage Mark II GXP and I absolutely love it... Cannot recommend it highly enough

jdc1244
January 3, 2011, 12:04 AM
And I have a 452 Varmint I can highly recommend.

Most likely both rifles are perfectly accurate and will serve you well – your decision will be based on personal preference.

thinkingman
January 3, 2011, 01:30 PM
I have a CS452 Varmint and it's an excellent shooter.
You will need a scope, as it comes bare.
A $15 trigger kit is a welcome addition.
Spare mags do not come cheap.
HTH

shanzlik
January 3, 2011, 01:37 PM
I don't have a CZ yet, but everyone that has one seems to really like them. I do have a TR, and I bought it because its very similarly configured to my long range centerfire rifles. (stock profile, etc.)

I plan to get a 452 at some point because I want a good .22 with irons and a nice wood stock, but for my shooting preference the TR made more sense.

demigod
January 3, 2011, 01:45 PM
SAVAGE.

Storm27m
January 3, 2011, 03:16 PM
CZ.

fisherman66
January 3, 2011, 03:16 PM
77/22

700sage
January 3, 2011, 03:21 PM
Can I suggest that because you already have a .22lr you may be interested in .17hmr? I got a Savage 93R17 BVSS for christmas and it shoots wonderfully. With .17hmr you'll be able to shoot longer ranges and more accurately than with .22lr. It would provide something new to your gun collection and greater functionallity than another .22lr. Just a thought.

pilpens
January 3, 2011, 03:25 PM
CZ varmint - 452 or 453.
Others have good luck with savage. I did not. Had one. wobbly magazine contributed to Fail to feed issues. Weak extractor spring caused Fail to extract. Was not as accurate as any of the 3 CZs I have (452 Trainer, 452 American, 453 Varmint). My 452s have trigger mods (AS adjustable sear).

viking499
January 3, 2011, 09:33 PM
:DCZ:D

micksis86
January 4, 2011, 07:05 AM
CZ's are consistently tack drivers i'm not saying that savages aren't but i can't vouch for them. I found that the 452 varmins balances well for shooting un supported aswell as in a varmint style role.

fishmagnet
January 4, 2011, 09:32 PM
Once you hold, inspect, and fire a CZ, you'll know! :cool:

cslinger
January 4, 2011, 09:39 PM
I have owned one Savage .22 bolt gun and it was a lemon. Not built all that well, numerous malfunctions. I am willing to chalk this up to luck(bad) of the draw since I own a Savage 10FP that is fantastic, but it did turn me off to their .22s.

I own 3 CZ 452s, a Varmint, FS and LUX and all three are tack drivers, built like "real" rifles and just feel so much better then most of the US made .22s in their price range and a few above.

So for my money I have to say emphatically the CZ452, any of them. That being said I will not / cannot disparage Savage as a brand as I likely just happened to get a bad apple and they have a history of making good stuff. Like I said though rifle for rifle even assuming exact same function and accuracy the CZs are better made and "feel" better then any of their Savage counterparts.

Few folks are sorry with their choice of 452/453.