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Servo77
July 6, 2007, 05:02 PM
What can you tell me about these...they appear to be carbines made from 91/30s....are they cut down or were they rebarreled?

Jimro
July 6, 2007, 05:14 PM
Cut down, if I remember correctly. Made the barrel a little thicker than the standard m38.

Jimro

Davis
July 6, 2007, 07:02 PM
The best we can say, the general consensus is that these are security rifles made by cutting down 91/30's into approximate M38 configurations for the use of Security guards in non-strategic industries in the Soviet Union that otherwise still needed guarding. Why they were made, when so many M38's and M44's were available has not been explained. They are generally very good shooters, though, and are certainly much rarer than m44's or m38's.

Davis

tomh1426
July 6, 2007, 07:49 PM
http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forums.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=f08fbb0f07b98cfee2af81112e0e584b&board=45.0
These people will tell you more than you ever wanted to know about your MN

2002gti
July 6, 2007, 10:34 PM
http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRarity.htm

this chart shows the rarity of the 91/59 as well as all the other varieties of mosins. they seem to be pretty collectable. AIM and century have them in stock right now.

Davis
July 7, 2007, 06:31 AM
Rarity lies within the realm of production AND availability. At the present, the 91/59 is pretty easy to get. Yet, in the production scale, the 91/59 will have much lower production numbers (less than a tithe). That won't really affect availability at the present because 91/59's are once again at the wholesellers. However, they are already much more expensive than they used to be. The one I own came from SOG 8 years ago for $50.

But, there really isn't all that known about the 91/59, with the amount of conjecture being greater than the known facts. We know for certain that they are real and not fakes, and that they were built post war. Beyond that, Century claims (or claimed) they were made by Bulgaria. But, there are no Bulgarian acceptance markings on them. There has been one made from a Tikka m91/30 found, (would have liked to have found that one). Some ex Russian members of some of the boards have described seeing them carried by guards in railroad facilities and other such places.

Davis

armoredman
July 7, 2007, 09:20 AM
Mosins aren't exactly collectable, pricewise, right now, but they are a lot of fun! You may not see an investment at $70 a rifle, but your grandchildren will thank you for the M-44 and the spam can of Czech Silvertip you stashed away.

ksstargazer
July 7, 2007, 02:42 PM
I have two M91/59s. Both of mine, and most all others I have seen were in like new condition (mint bores, nice stocks). Both of mine are very accurate and have among the best triggers I have ever used in surplus. They are very much like the M38 model, but are cut down M91/30s. Mine were cut from a 1942 and a 1943 Izhevsk. If you are going to get a Mosin carbine, you can't do better than a M91/59. I don't know why, but the concussion from the M91/59 seems a bit stronger than from my M38s or M44s. It sure does get your attention!

CU74
July 7, 2007, 10:07 PM
2002gti - thanks for the inf. I just ordered one from AIM. Already have ammo stacked deep.

2002gti
July 7, 2007, 10:15 PM
your welcome, IMO these are pretty decent collectables in the relm of mosins. before century got their hands on this batch and supplied AIM allans armory was the only dealer with them and he has only had handfulls at a time.