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my1stk98
July 2, 2007, 10:34 PM
My first purchased rifle actually. I am new to the boards. I just bought my K98 from AIM surplus today and I am very glad I did. I am new to the K98 and have a few questions. I was cleaning the gun w/ my father today (along w/ the Mosin Nagant I bought too) and he noticed that there are two filled holes on the side of the receiver opposite of the bolt. I have been searching to see if this may have possibly been a sniper's receiver. I didn't buy it for it to be a collectable. I bought it to shoot it. However if my rifle ended up being a sniper's at one point that would make me increasingly happy w/ my purchase. Would love to find out all I can about my rifle. I will post some pictures as soon as I can. While searching I heard that there were several different types of K98 sniper rifles. The thing that confuses me is that when I look up pictures of K98s with side rail scope mounts, they have 3 holes. Mine only has 2 holes, that have been filled. Any help is greatly appreciated. Here is some receiver markings info until I get some pictures.

Receiver markings: CE 41, 359 37 37, Russian Capture "X" mark, 2 eagles w/ swastika's mostly removed but still visible to good eyes

Thanks again,

Chris

my1stk98
July 3, 2007, 01:13 PM
Here are some pictures (attached)

my1stk98
July 3, 2007, 01:15 PM
Here are some more.

Abndoc
July 3, 2007, 06:39 PM
Since it is a Russian capture, maybe the Russians mounted one of their scope mounts on it. That might explain two holes rather than three. Something to look into, anyway.

my1stk98
July 4, 2007, 12:46 AM
Well, now that thats out in the air, does anyone have perhaps some measurements, like hole-hole distancefor the mounts used by both germans and russians? That could possibly narrow down where the mount came from.

Scorch
July 4, 2007, 12:51 AM
German military sniper rifles generally had mounts that were dovetailed or screwed into the action ring and bridge, so if there was a side-mount scope mount on it, it was probably installed after it was captured. Whenever it was done, it was not in that stock at the time. Whoever repaired the holes did a fair job, but I would worry about the action's heat treat.

alamo
July 4, 2007, 07:28 PM
I have a ce 41 too. ce is the marking for J.P. Sauer & Sohn. It cleaned up nicely.

FirstFreedom
July 4, 2007, 08:15 PM
Very nice rifle; congrats! :)

my1stk98
July 5, 2007, 12:10 AM
Thanks everybody for the comments. I will try and post some more pictures soon of the other markings and such. I went to the range today and shot it some. The groups weren't all that great but I'm pretty sure its because of me and not the rifle. I just need some practice shooting it.

my1stk98
July 16, 2007, 05:32 PM
Well I finally got to take some more pictures of the rifle today. I can only put 3 to each post though.

my1stk98
July 16, 2007, 05:35 PM
More pictures

my1stk98
July 16, 2007, 05:36 PM
More...

my1stk98
July 16, 2007, 05:41 PM
The last batch of pictures. On this one I have a question. Does anyone know what the triangle shaped marking is next to the bolt take-down disk in the last picture? Also there is another marking that is confusing me. There is a mark between the CE and 41 on the receiver. It looks kind of like a "3" or a half-punched "8". Not sure about that one either. One of my first few pictures should have a decent shot of the mark of which I'm speaking. Thanks for looking!!!

frankxd
July 17, 2007, 08:42 AM
The Germans did have 2-hole side mounted scopes used on the K98's. They were short side rail mounts. Here is a link for you to compare what you have:
http://k98k.com/koel.htm
I believe that Sarco has some right now. They aren't cheap, but if that is the correct mount for that rifle, it would be cool to have. I don't think that the Russians would have added a scope to a German rifle. After the war, they de-snipered most of the 91/30's. Why would they make a sniper out of a captured German rifle?

frankxd
July 17, 2007, 08:46 AM
Here's another clue:

"ce and bcd also made short side rail.byf and ce were the major suppliers of the short side rail sniper rifles for army issue"

my1stk98
July 17, 2007, 11:33 AM
Hey thanks, the thing that gets me is the fact that with those mounts, while looking at them they do not have the actual receiver mount underneath them. I've only been able to find pictures of the mount with 3 holes. Do you or anyone else have any images of a German scope mount that only used 2 holes? Or I guess know that they had used them with 2 instead of 3. Thanks.