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carbiner
January 26, 2006, 02:49 PM
I have owned my 44 magnum Ruger Deerfield for several years, I think it's time for Ruger to make a higher capacity magazine for it. I wrote them by snail mail and recieved a reply a month later, they said they forwarded it to engineering/marketing. If you own the Deerfeild and think it should have more than a 4shot magazine then please write, or call Ruger. Would you like to have a larger magazine for this gun?

TPAW
January 26, 2006, 02:55 PM
Would you like to have a larger magazine for this gun?

Sure, why not, but don't hold your breath! I heard that they are not making any more for the Mini 14, and I don't think they EVER made any for the Mini 30. The Ruger Company is very stand-off-ish when it comes to higher cap mags.

Johnny Guest
January 26, 2006, 05:26 PM
I had to look it up to find that Old Bill retired in October 2000, when handed over the company reins to his successor, Wm. B. Ruger, Jr. The Old Man died in July 2002 at age 86. Dunno if it was he or Junior who was quoted as saying, "No honest person needs a rifle that holds more than five shots." It is also my understanding that one of his last corporate acts was to urge modification of the Mini 14 to five shot internal magazine.

I just wouldn't hold my breath awaiting publiclly available high-cap rifles from Ruger. You must give the company, and it's founder, credit for their many firearms innovations over the years, but there are some issues over which we'll have to agree to disagree. :(

Best,
Johnny

azredhawk44
January 26, 2006, 05:41 PM
Any laws against manufacturing them yourself? Hi-caps aren't illegal in AZ (where I live) and I can't think of any reason why it would be illegal to take an AK spring and follower and put it in a box magazine of your own design made from stamp sheet metal. Trim the spring for length and stiffness, trim the follower to fit a .44magnum cartridge instead of 7.62x39. Just use the connecting mechanism as a guide on the rotary mag, it would be a good day in a metal shop!

I've thought of getting a deerfield. I like my M1A and my dad's mini-14, so I probably will someday, but it's more of a want than a need.

If legal to do so when I get one, I will try my hand at making one. It'll probably be a couple of years, though.

carbiner
January 26, 2006, 06:07 PM
That little carbine took me by suprise! I brought it to the range one day and ended up next to two guys with a 500 mag. I fired 5 - 180 rem mags in rapid succession and everyone stopped to see what shook the place. It was kinda funny.......

bgoldhunter
January 27, 2006, 01:05 PM
While there are several guns I have hi-cap mags for, I just don't see the purpose with my 'ol 44 carbine. She holds all I need it to, and have never wanted more.

gak
January 27, 2006, 09:12 PM
I do - why I have an EMF (Rossi) 92 .44 Mag with 10 in the tube :) and with action slicked up and just a little bit of practice about as quick as an autoloader anyway. While 4 or 5 may be the hunting limit in most state's anyway, for fun/truck/ranch/plinking doesn't quite cut it IMO in an autoloader where you can be out in about 2 1/2 seconds - 5 seconds with any discipline :D But, yes I can see a Deerfield (or its predecessor) with it's "hunting" clip would be very handy indeed for pig or close range deer - with quick follow up shot(s) with more accuracy than the lever fired quickly. Also a good bear-camp gun; just would want a back up gun very close by after I ran out! (45-70 Marlin or Browning 86 and/or Super Redhawk .44 come to mind).

smince
January 27, 2006, 10:23 PM
Since the .44 is a rimmed round, you may have trouble getting a mag of "High" capacity. Maybe 8-10 rounds, but more might be an engineering challenge.

Marcus
January 27, 2006, 11:15 PM
It`s a crying shame that Ruger has their heads in rectal defilade. The Deerfield would make a great HD weapon or police carbine with larger mags. Function isn`t the problem,.303 is rimmed and BREN gun 30rd. mags work just fine. The real problem is that, for some reason I can`t fathom they won`t support the wants of their own customer base and continue to kowtow to the liberal whiners. That`s the main reason I haven`t bought a new Ruger in years. Don`t hold your breath for those higher cap mags. Marcus

smince
January 28, 2006, 05:21 AM
The problem is that big, fat straight-walled rimmed pistol rounds behave differently in a high-cap mag than bottleneck, rimmed rifle rounds do. What is the highest cap mag you have ever seen/heard of for a .44, .357, 38Spec, etc?

blume357
January 28, 2006, 08:33 AM
I did see that 15 round magazines are again available for the 9mm p series pistols. I suspect it's a liability thing... one of the 'disclaimers' in the instructions for all their fire arms is to never modify this gun... so you sell a mini-14 to everybody with a 5 round mag... we all know that 5 round mag gets put in a drawer somewhere... gun is now modified and all warranties are off...

gak
January 28, 2006, 11:18 AM
Marcus is absolutely correct. A case of interrectumuscraniality if there ever was one. Hats off to Ruger for thinking up the .44 Carbine (years ago) to begin with. Hats back on for not figuring it out in the 30-some ensuing years.

carbiner
January 28, 2006, 06:00 PM
Yea, it's a little frustrating. Ruger also makes the PC 9 and 40 cal Carbines with higher cap mags. I think the 44 mag carbine would be a potent defense tool. I really like mine, 300gr Hornady's sream out of that 18.5" tube and blow hunks of wood in air @ 100yds. I was testing it on a pile of dead logs.......

Crosshair
January 28, 2006, 08:37 PM
I was thinking that a person could make an insert for the mag well of the carbine and then be able to insert a Desert Eagle 44 Mag magazine into it.