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tjhands
January 26, 2006, 12:01 PM
I'll soon be getting a Bushmaster AR-15 and wanted to seek y'alls advice and opinions on what brand/grain of ammo shoots the most accurately in a gun like mine. I do realize that every gun shoots uniquely, but wondered if there was a certain brand or two that most people preferred.

Where have you found the best bargains? I don't necessarily like Wolf ammo in handgun calibers, but how is it for the AR? What's your opinion of Sellier&Bellot?

Thanks again. :)

Wild Bill Bucks
January 26, 2006, 12:11 PM
Wolf makes a super cheap ammunition in the throw away brass that is good if you just want to blow up a bunch of rounds.
If you want to do some hunting or serious target shooting I don't think you could beat the Hornady 55 grains in the V-Max, BUT be prepared to spend
some bucks.

tjhands
January 26, 2006, 01:49 PM
Wild Bill, isn't there an all-around performer that fits snugly between Cheap Wolf and expensive Hornady? How have you found PMC? Sellier&Bellot?

When it comes down to it it, I want accuracy at low cost. Is that akin to wanting my cake and eating it, too? :o

fanoblack
January 26, 2006, 01:59 PM
You could always go with military stuff. Ammoman.com has some really nice prices on milspec ammo (1k rounds for $229 shipped as of 1-26-06). Should do nicely in the AR platform, however if you shoot anywhere that doesn't allow steel in the ammo then I suggest you NOT get the milspec as the M855 round has a steel penetrator.

Thats my opinion, good luck with whatever you go with.

fanoblack

urbanassault
January 26, 2006, 01:59 PM
Mil-Surp and Tracer's

TexasSIGMan
January 26, 2006, 02:08 PM
I practice with plain old XM193.

Shame the price has gone up so high, I may have to look into Wolf.

Dave Markowitz
January 26, 2006, 02:11 PM
I used Federal American Eagle 55 grain FMJ for practice in my Colt AR-15A3, which doesn't like Wolf. I do use Wolf in my Mini-14, which apparently feeds anything.

tjhands
January 26, 2006, 04:02 PM
Thanks, guys. I guess I will just experiment with various brands and weights until I find what my gun likes best.

urbanassault
January 26, 2006, 04:06 PM
I have heard some people say that steel casings are bad for your AR, Im not sure of the validity of this but have heard it from a couple people. If I/they am/were correct watch out what mil-surp you get. Maybe somebody can clarify.

Lycanthrope
January 26, 2006, 05:23 PM
I shoot the heck out of the new wolf in my ARs without any problems.

S&B is also now making steel cased ammo.

Lycanthrope
January 26, 2006, 05:24 PM
Hard to beat this for cheap trigger time:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?p=WX2&i=84156

tjhands
January 26, 2006, 09:02 PM
Lycanthrope,

Thanks for the link. That is indeed cheap! I did the smorgasboard thing and ordered from cheaperthandirt: a few boxes each of Wolf, PMC, UMC, Sellier&Bellot. I figured I'd run them all through and see what works best in my gun. (Yes, the gun that I don't yet even OWN!) :D

utaherrn
January 26, 2006, 10:46 PM
aimsurplus.com
or
ammoman.com

usually have pretty good deals.

Lycanthrope
January 26, 2006, 11:30 PM
A decent gun will run everything.

The AR15 and it's problems feeding are way over rated. I've run a bunch of Wolf through my semi custom Clark Gator as well as my super cheap Model 1.......

No problems...ever.

stevelyn
January 27, 2006, 07:24 AM
I shoot whatever is available. I have a Daewoo K2 that has never gagged on anything.

American4guns
January 27, 2006, 07:34 AM
Are there any 223 or 5.56 rounds you wouldn't use in your AR? As far as possible damage to rifling.

TexasSIGMan
January 27, 2006, 08:29 AM
Are there any 223 or 5.56 rounds you wouldn't use in your AR? As far as possible damage to rifling.

There are some .223 match rounds in 80 grain that you shouldn't shoot unless your barrel is throated, but you will know them when you see them mainly because they re so much more $$$ than the usual stuff.

Won't hurt the rifling, it can blow up before the rifling gets hurt :D

The bullet is so big a standard barrel can push the bullet into the case increasing the pressure tremendously.

If you stick to anything that's 5.56 instead of .223 you will always be safe if that is a concern.
I can't think of any 5.56 I wouldn't shoot in my ARs because of fear of damage.

There are some that are so crappy I wouldn't want to use them, but don't know of any that would hurt the gun.

Dodgeballz
January 27, 2006, 03:37 PM
Here it is a little cheaper from Sportsman Guide at $104.97 per 1000

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/cb/cb.asp?p=AX5A&i=52591


I don't know why I cant find this on the web site, but I do have it saved as a favorite.

And if you want to save some cash use the coupons.

If you totals are over $49 use coupon SPG2766 to save $5
or if totals are over $99 use coupon SPG2070 to save $10

coupons at http://www.sportsmansguide.com/section/section.asp?s=2993#top

American4guns
January 27, 2006, 05:22 PM
what about the wolf steel cartridges? Are they AR friendly?

Tim R
January 27, 2006, 07:14 PM
Black Hills re-manf shoots very well.

Lycanthrope
January 27, 2006, 09:28 PM
what about the wolf steel cartridges? Are they AR friendly?

The links posted are the steel cased stuff. Burn it without worry.

Merkaba
January 27, 2006, 10:59 PM
I've been using Remington UMC 55 gr. MC .223 lately.
It's $4 for 20 rnds at wal-mart.
http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/UMC/UMC_centerfire_rifle.asp

Samuel2001
January 28, 2006, 12:11 AM
What ever is on sale!:D

urbanassault
January 30, 2006, 09:10 AM
I would avoid wolf ammo, I buy the Black Hills reman'd stuff and it shoots and feeds great. I put about 15 rounds of wolf and it jammed 3 times!! I had no jams with about 100 rds of Black Hills

PDshooter
January 30, 2006, 09:23 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/PDshooter/Guns/25.jpg

These! 62gr once pulled Mil surplus. With 25.6gr of H335. My AR loves them!:D