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FirstFreedom
April 28, 2005, 08:42 AM
Talk about lawsuit-proof...Though it's not a firearm, I picked up a cheapie Daisy Powerline 1000 break-barrel .177 pellet rifle. I have a nice RWS, but I keep it in the safe, so I wanted something that could be kept by the back door, without fear of theft, for opportunistic shots at grackles/starlings. Anyway, the trigger is absolutely horrid. It is truly a workout of the hand to pull the trigger more than once or twice - kinda like those old grip enhancers. It's very long and gotta be over 20-25 lbs easy I'm guessing - ridiculous. I took it apart and it does NOT look like a simple task to dremel my way to a decent trigger. I can only hope that use and some grease will help a little. So what's the worst trigger on a rifle you've ever experienced? Oh, the accuracy is decent however; not much worse than from the RWS, even with the terrible trigger. It's minute-of-starling at 15 yards, rested.

629 shooter
April 28, 2005, 01:33 PM
I never understood this "lawyer proof" mentality. In my thinking , an excessively heavy trigger makes it far more difficult to hit anything, making misses more likely. Don't see where the safety factor comes in when your trigger is so heavy you have great difficulty in hitting your target.

My all time worst was probably my Marlin 39 lever action 22. This trigger made hittng anything smaller than a Cape Buffalo a major chore! I could balance the enitre weight of the cocked rifle on the trigger (yes unloaded) and the hammer would not fall.

I measured it at a rough , gritty 7.75 lbs - totally useless. Unsafe since I could not hit what I was aiming at , unless it was the Cape Buffalo! Took some work , a lot of work ,to the hammer and now it is very crisp and light - a real pleasure to shoot.

FirstFreedom
April 28, 2005, 01:44 PM
I need to measure this one - I was just talking out my rear when I guessed 20-25. But the rifle could easily rest the weight of two of itself (2 entire rifles) on a metal rod without breaking the trigger - granted it's a polymer stocked gun however.

kart racer
April 28, 2005, 10:30 PM
I have one too,I bought it for my son and that has to be the worst trigger I've ever seen.I started taking mine apart to see about improving the trigger and just said screw it-didn't look like any good options.

gitarmac
April 29, 2005, 12:45 AM
I have one and was doing pretty good on the squirrels until I started tinkering with my 10/22's. They are shooting pretty sweet now and made the bad daisy trigger even worse.

I have an H&R revolver that is supposed to be double action but for all practical purposes is a single action. That's ok for what I use it for, I just think calling the revolver "double action" is false advertising!

arcticap
April 29, 2005, 02:51 AM
I once bought an inexpensive CVA muzzle loader (Bobcat?) that had one of those "hurt your finger" triggers on it and I ended up sending it back to them and they got it down to about 5-6 lbs. Maybe if enough people send their Daisy's back to them to get worked on, they'll get the message. Supposedly RWS has some sort of Moly paste to help problem triggers, but it's probably not a cure.

tlightburn
April 29, 2005, 09:33 AM
The one in there isn't long enough
I was getting a black and blue finger after 45min of shooting...it's much nicer now...and after some testing the gun seems to like beeman kodiaks and crosman premier heavies

http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=392756&messageid=1112380208


-Ted

artsmom
May 2, 2005, 03:34 PM
My Hi-Point carbine has the worst trigger I have ever felt. After shooting a half of box of ammo through it, I had myself checked for a hernia and went to an eye doctor to see if I ruptured any blood vessels in my eye.

I might crack the Hi-Point open and look to see what could be done with it, because I really like the sights on it, and if I could get the trigger down to bench press weight, I would wear the gun out plinking.

FirstFreedom
May 2, 2005, 05:48 PM
Ask and ye shall receive - wow, thanks Ted, for the info and the link. Time to get a longer machine screw. I don't think that the quarter Ace Hardware charges for a screw is gonna kill me (for the guy who says buying one is not necessary - just countersink the hole). Not sure how to disassemble this however, for sanding and moly lubing, or where to get moly lube - maybe it will be off to the gunsmith, but that seems a little extreme for a cheapo rifle, to put money into it like that, but hey, it's probably worth it. Well, I'll look around over there at the airgun forum. What about some kind of grit gel, in the trigger components, to smooth it up?

Cool; as it happens, the first/only pellets I've shot out of it so far are the heavy Crosman Premiers - the 10.5s. It's not a good enough gun to deserve my H&N Silver Point ultra-heavy 11.5 grainers. Maybe someday, if I get the trigger sweetened up.

BTW, there are several negatives to this air rifle. First, the terrible trigger. Second, the safety is backward from the 'standard' of forward=off safe/fire. Third, you cannot disengage the safety when the gun is at full cock. This is bad if/when you need to de-cock it without firing....since you have to push the barrel back up an inch or two before it allows you to disengage the safety, then when you pull the trigger to decock while holding the barrel it has a couple of inches to gain momentum, and the piston "slams" into the cocking piece, thus slamming the barrel and your hand holding it in check. Fourth, the gun is very loud; more so than other springers I've owned. Fifth, the sights, although click adjustable, are (a) too easy to click, making the prone to accidental changes, and (b) cheap/prone to breakage - in fact the display model in the store had part of the rear sight broken off just from handling by customers. The upsides to the rifle are lightweight, fiber optic front and rear, decent value as it comes with a scope for under $100, and relatively powerful for its price range.

arcticap
May 4, 2005, 01:23 AM
I went to froogle.com and typed in "rws moly paste" :

http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=rws+moly+paste&btnG=Search+Froogle

Actually, it's "Beeman moly paste":

http://www.google.com/search?q=beeman+moly+paste&search=search