"A very serious carry revolver..."

Marko Kloos · August 11, 2001, 03:55 PM

You know that one elusive gun, the one that you always look for at gun shows, the one that would be the Holy Grail of your collection? Well, I found mine today at the gun show in K-town.

The *&* "PC-13" Performance Center Model 13, made in a run of 400 back in 1991 for Lew Horton. A quad-ported Model 13, 3" heavy barrel, DAO with bobbed hammer, trigger overtravel screw, and a full-length shrouded ejector.

Tamara hates me now; I heard a dozen variations of "You suck!" all the way home. We were joking about finding one of these at the show, but I never would have thought I'd see one in the wild, so to speak.

This one's unfired, and I had to part with $695 for it. but it's worth it. This has been the Holy Grail of CCW guns for me for a long time.

BluesBlade · August 11, 2001, 04:14 PM

Beautiful, lendringser!

I had one of LH's 3" .44 Specials back in the '80's and sold it. Man, I wish I hadn't done that!

Congratulations on your find!

BB

cobraman · August 11, 2001, 08:38 PM

Nice looking piece. Let me reiternate Tamara:
YOU SUCK

Congrats I bet its fun to shoot.

Tamara · August 11, 2001, 09:14 PM

...as a professional "purchase consultant". I spent the previous day memorizing chunks of the Blue Book and The Standard Catalog of *&*, brushing up on the prices and production years & numbers of sixguns I knew he was interested in. "Maybe we'll find a 3-inch 657 or 629; perhaps even a Lew Horton", he said.
"Probably," I replied "there've been a lot of brushed aluminum pistol cases at the last couple of shows around here".
"Hey, maybe we'll even stumble across a PC13!".
"Yeah, sure" I retorted, squashing his hopes, "You don't ever see those in real life".

D'oh!

Now, the whole mission of being the "purchase consultant" is to stay calm no matter what the gun is for maximum purchasing leverage, but I blew it with one look at this gun, being a huge Model 13 fan myself. "I've got just enough cash, should I offer him $695 out the door for it?", he asked.
"If you don't," I hissed back "I'll shoot you where you stand, pull the money out of your wallet and buy it myself!".

Cylinder unturned, trigger never pulled (we made the first mark on the frame from the trigger stop ourselves back at the shop), and I've seen them in Gun List lately for as much as $850.

Some folks just have all the luck! (I mean really; if some dude hadn't bought lendringser's AK two aisles previously, we'd've just had to sit and drool helplessly over this beauty...)

edited for clarity... Tam

Gewehr98 · August 12, 2001, 12:02 AM

The image posted above is now my Windows 2000 wallpaper.

Thanks, Lendsringer, at least I can drool at the purty picture...

44rugerfan · August 12, 2001, 12:56 AM

"If you don't I will shoot you where you stand, take the money out of your wallet and buy it myself!"
ROTFLMAO

If only I could only get my wife to sound like that...

August 12, 2001, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Cylinder unturned, trigger never pulled

That poor neglected handgun. At least it is in better hands now.

George Hill · August 12, 2001, 03:49 AM

Thats one sexy looking wheelgun...

C.R.Sam · August 12, 2001, 06:12 AM

Tres kwel.................Sam

Jeff OTMG · August 12, 2001, 07:10 AM

GREAT GUN!!! Two things:
1. Where is K-town?
2. May I correctly assume that it is NOT going to stay in its' current unfired condition?

Gonzo_308 · August 12, 2001, 08:06 AM

Tam, you should use your womanly wiles and take that gun away from him.

Al Thompson · August 12, 2001, 08:23 AM

Jeff. K-Town (some times referred to as Knox-vegas) is smack between Farragut and Strawberry Plains.

Foriegners refer to it as "Knoxville"....

Giz

SmithNut · August 12, 2001, 11:14 AM

Your PC13 is actually of the second production run. These were very nice revolvers, very limited in quantity, and actually two variations were made all within about 2 months. The first version of this came with Eagle Secret Service grips, and the only to tell the difference between the two production runs is the location of the quad ports. The picture above shows the ports in the barrel rib, on the first production run the ports were cut lower, as part of the barrel where MagNa Port traditionally located them.
Interestingly enough, S&W used different prefix's on the s/n, the first run used HCPxxxx. Lew Horton displayed the prototype at the 1995 Shot Show in Las Vegas, and the first units were shipped a few weeks later in March of that year.
You don't see them everyday for sure.

FWIW
........SmithNut

Tamara · August 12, 2001, 11:59 PM

Thank you, SmithNut!

(Do you know if they've released a second edition of The Standard Catalog... yet?)

buzz_knox · August 13, 2001, 09:11 AM

To reiterate comments made above and on Saturday, you suck!!!

The more I think about it, the more I think I should have taken off when I had that thing in my hands. I would have had to replace a couple of tires and a window from your shooting my car, but it would have been worth it.

Marko Kloos · August 13, 2001, 10:02 AM

Jeff,

it will not stay in its unfired condition. Guns are there for shooting and carrying, and that's what I'll be doing with this one. It'd be a shame to own the ultimate CCW sixgun and then let it collect dust in the safe. Plus, I figured that I'd be able to sell it even in fired condition quite well. I already have a standing offer of $850 from my roomie.

Hutch · August 13, 2001, 11:38 AM

Any recommendations and guesses as to who could rework an existing M13 3" RB with a truly horrible nickel finish into a jewel even modestly approaching this? I'd personally forego the porting, but an action job, hammer bob, a plastic insert (or tritium tube) in the front ramp, and a refinish would really help me get over the fact that I don't have one like Lendy's.

SmithNut · August 13, 2001, 06:36 PM

Tamara,
Not sure on the second edition of the Standard Catalog of S&W. In talking to Supica and Nahas a month or so back, they were expecting it to be out in the summer, but because of what they were hearing from the publisher, it could yet be very late in the year.

........SmithNut

SmithNut · August 13, 2001, 07:13 PM

...........

dewey · August 13, 2001, 10:34 PM

My K-Comp is a second cousin to this PC-13 but mine is adjustable. I like the looks of yours better so I guess I need to add it to my
"IF EVER...." list. BTW, I think you'll find that it hates lead as I know the K & F Comps both do. Great Gun....dewey

Ronin 99 · August 14, 2001, 12:41 AM

I have one on order from Amazon and according to them it's supposed to be out this month. Hope thet're right but if they're not I guess I'll have to wait.
Ronin

Mossyrock · August 14, 2001, 02:26 PM

http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...threadid=76955

Marko Kloos · August 14, 2001, 03:01 PM

Thanks, mossyrock, but I don't think I can improve on the hardwood grips that are on it already. Besides, I am not a huge fan of stag grips. I like good hardwood monogrips myself, Cocobolo for stainless and Pau Ferro or cherrywood for blued guns.

LBC · August 14, 2001, 09:22 PM

Hutch, check out S&W's website. Thier Performance Center does a combat conversion for $240, and includes a trigger job, bobbing the hammer, installing a trigger stop, chamfering the charge holes, and a bead blasted matte black finish. LBC

Lord Grey Boots · August 15, 2001, 12:07 AM

That M13 is really cool, looks like my Ruger SP101's bigger meaner brother....

Yes, I understand the holy grail issue. I am still watching for the CS-1 I passed by a few years ago...

August 11, 2001, 03:55 PM	#1
Marko Kloos Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2000 Location: Enfield, NH Posts: 5,521	"A very serious carry revolver..." You know that one elusive gun, the one that you always look for at gun shows, the one that would be the Holy Grail of your collection? Well, I found mine today at the gun show in K-town. The & "PC-13" Performance Center Model 13, made in a run of 400 back in 1991 for Lew Horton. A quad-ported Model 13, 3" heavy barrel, DAO with bobbed hammer, trigger overtravel screw, and a full-length shrouded ejector. Tamara hates me now; I heard a dozen variations of "You suck!" all the way home. We were joking about finding one of these at the show, but I never would have thought I'd see one in the wild, so to speak. This one's unfired, and I had to part with $695 for it. but it's worth it. This has been the Holy Grail of CCW guns for me for a long time. Last edited by Marko Kloos; August 13, 2001 at 02:59 PM.

August 11, 2001, 09:14 PM	#4
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	I was brought along... ...as a professional "purchase consultant". I spent the previous day memorizing chunks of the Blue Book and The Standard Catalog of &, brushing up on the prices and production years & numbers of sixguns I knew he was interested in. "Maybe we'll find a 3-inch 657 or 629; perhaps even a Lew Horton", he said. "Probably," I replied "there've been a lot of brushed aluminum pistol cases at the last couple of shows around here". "Hey, maybe we'll even stumble across a PC13!". "Yeah, sure" I retorted, squashing his hopes, "You don't ever see those in real life". D'oh! Now, the whole mission of being the "purchase consultant" is to stay calm no matter what the gun is for maximum purchasing leverage, but I blew it with one look at this gun, being a huge Model 13 fan myself. "I've got just enough cash, should I offer him $695 out the door for it?", he asked. "If you don't," I hissed back "I'll shoot you where you stand, pull the money out of your wallet and buy it myself!". Cylinder unturned, trigger never pulled (we made the first mark on the frame from the trigger stop ourselves back at the shop), and I've seen them in Gun List lately for as much as $850. Some folks just have all the luck! (I mean really; if some dude hadn't bought lendringser's AK two aisles previously, we'd've just had to sit and drool helplessly over this beauty...) edited for clarity... Tam __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum. Last edited by Tamara; August 12, 2001 at 12:25 AM.

August 12, 2001, 12:02 AM	#5
Gewehr98 Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2000 Location: Token Creek, WI Posts: 4,067	Well, since I can't have the gun, I did the next best thing. The image posted above is now my Windows 2000 wallpaper. Thanks, Lendsringer, at least I can drool at the purty picture...

August 12, 2001, 03:49 AM	#8
George Hill Staff Alumnus Join Date: October 14, 1998 Location: North Carolina Posts: 11,546	Thats one sexy looking wheelgun... __________________ MAD OGRE

August 12, 2001, 08:23 AM	#12
Al Thompson Staff Alumnus Join Date: May 2, 1999 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,611	Jeff. K-Town (some times referred to as Knox-vegas) is smack between Farragut and Strawberry Plains. Foriegners refer to it as "Knoxville".... Giz __________________ http://www.scfirearms.org/

August 11, 2001, 04:14 PM	#2
BluesBlade Member Join Date: August 11, 2001 Location: Georgia Posts: 19	Beautiful, lendringser! I had one of LH's 3" .44 Specials back in the '80's and sold it. Man, I wish I hadn't done that! Congratulations on your find! BB

August 11, 2001, 08:38 PM	#3
cobraman Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 1999 Location: orlando fl Posts: 751	Nice looking piece. Let me reiternate Tamara: YOU SUCK Congrats I bet its fun to shoot.

August 12, 2001, 12:56 AM	#6
44rugerfan Senior Member Join Date: March 10, 2001 Posts: 277	"If you don't I will shoot you where you stand, take the money out of your wallet and buy it myself!" ROTFLMAO If only I could only get my wife to sound like that...

August 12, 2001, 06:12 AM	#9
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Tres kwel.................Sam

August 12, 2001, 07:10 AM	#10
Jeff OTMG Senior Member Join Date: October 16, 1998 Location: OKC, OK & Austin, Tx Posts: 3,707	GREAT GUN!!! Two things: 1. Where is K-town? 2. May I correctly assume that it is NOT going to stay in its' current unfired condition?

August 12, 2001, 08:06 AM	#11
Gonzo_308 Senior Member Join Date: September 1, 2000 Location: Sunbury, Ohio Posts: 1,367	Tam, you should use your womanly wiles and take that gun away from him.

August 12, 2001, 11:14 AM	#13
SmithNut Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 1999 Posts: 102	Nice piece Your PC13 is actually of the second production run. These were very nice revolvers, very limited in quantity, and actually two variations were made all within about 2 months. The first version of this came with Eagle Secret Service grips, and the only to tell the difference between the two production runs is the location of the quad ports. The picture above shows the ports in the barrel rib, on the first production run the ports were cut lower, as part of the barrel where MagNa Port traditionally located them. Interestingly enough, S&W used different prefix's on the s/n, the first run used HCPxxxx. Lew Horton displayed the prototype at the 1995 Shot Show in Las Vegas, and the first units were shipped a few weeks later in March of that year. You don't see them everyday for sure. FWIW ........SmithNut

August 12, 2001, 11:59 PM	#14
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	Thank you, SmithNut! (Do you know if they've released a second edition of The Standard Catalog... yet?) __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

August 13, 2001, 09:11 AM	#15
buzz_knox Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 1999 Location: Knoxville, in the Free State of Tennesse Posts: 4,190	To reiterate comments made above and on Saturday, you suck!!! The more I think about it, the more I think I should have taken off when I had that thing in my hands. I would have had to replace a couple of tires and a window from your shooting my car, but it would have been worth it.

August 13, 2001, 10:02 AM	#16
Marko Kloos Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2000 Location: Enfield, NH Posts: 5,521	Jeff, it will not stay in its unfired condition. Guns are there for shooting and carrying, and that's what I'll be doing with this one. It'd be a shame to own the ultimate CCW sixgun and then let it collect dust in the safe. Plus, I figured that I'd be able to sell it even in fired condition quite well. I already have a standing offer of $850 from my roomie.

August 13, 2001, 11:38 AM	#17
Hutch Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2000 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 1,124	Any recommendations and guesses as to who could rework an existing M13 3" RB with a truly horrible nickel finish into a jewel even modestly approaching this? I'd personally forego the porting, but an action job, hammer bob, a plastic insert (or tritium tube) in the front ramp, and a refinish would really help me get over the fact that I don't have one like Lendy's.

August 13, 2001, 06:36 PM	#18
SmithNut Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 1999 Posts: 102	Tamara, Not sure on the second edition of the Standard Catalog of S&W. In talking to Supica and Nahas a month or so back, they were expecting it to be out in the summer, but because of what they were hearing from the publisher, it could yet be very late in the year. ........SmithNut

August 13, 2001, 07:13 PM	#19
SmithNut Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 1999 Posts: 102	...........

August 13, 2001, 10:34 PM	#20
dewey Senior Member Join Date: December 22, 1999 Location: South East Posts: 399	HUUUMMMmmmmmmmmmm................. My K-Comp is a second cousin to this PC-13 but mine is adjustable. I like the looks of yours better so I guess I need to add it to my "IF EVER...." list. BTW, I think you'll find that it hates lead as I know the K & F Comps both do. Great Gun....dewey

August 14, 2001, 12:41 AM	#21
Ronin 99 Senior Member Join Date: January 23, 2000 Location: NY Posts: 521	The Standard Catalog of S&W I have one on order from Amazon and according to them it's supposed to be out this month. Hope thet're right but if they're not I guess I'll have to wait. Ronin

August 14, 2001, 02:26 PM	#22
Mossyrock Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 1999 Location: Washington State Posts: 137	Have I got a deal for you! http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...threadid=76955

August 14, 2001, 03:01 PM	#23
Marko Kloos Senior Member Join Date: January 12, 2000 Location: Enfield, NH Posts: 5,521	Thanks, mossyrock, but I don't think I can improve on the hardwood grips that are on it already. Besides, I am not a huge fan of stag grips. I like good hardwood monogrips myself, Cocobolo for stainless and Pau Ferro or cherrywood for blued guns.

August 14, 2001, 09:22 PM	#24
LBC Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2001 Posts: 385	Hutch, check out S&W's website. Thier Performance Center does a combat conversion for $240, and includes a trigger job, bobbing the hammer, installing a trigger stop, chamfering the charge holes, and a bead blasted matte black finish. LBC

August 15, 2001, 12:07 AM	#25
Lord Grey Boots Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Snohomish, WA Posts: 510	That M13 is really cool, looks like my Ruger SP101's bigger meaner brother.... Yes, I understand the holy grail issue. I am still watching for the CS-1 I passed by a few years ago...