That CZ 1911 I read about a while back.

Pond, James Pond · January 14, 2016, 10:59 AM

Anyone actually bought one?

If yes, spill the beans and show the beans!

What are they like and where do they sit in the grand scale of all things 1911?

Jim Watson · January 14, 2016, 11:01 AM

They made a thousand and quit.
Quality is good except I saw a couple of reviews that said thumb safety operation was not equal to the rest of the gun.

WVsig · January 14, 2016, 11:06 AM

They are nice but they are gone. They were a limited run IIRC 1000 only. It is a nicely fitted and finished non-mim 1911 by all accounts. I would have considered getting one for a base gun or GI shooter but with no more coming down the pipe I will pass.

Prices are pushing north of $725.

Pond, James Pond · January 14, 2016, 02:38 PM

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They were a limited run IIRC 1000 only.

What?!
What a shame!

I was thinking "What a waste getting all the machinery for only 1000!", but then I remember that Dan Wesson does 1911s and is under the CZ US umbrella, so I guess they made them there.

All the same, what a pity they stopped there. Sounds like it could have been a really nice entry level 1911 with seemingly mid-level build.

Jim Watson · January 14, 2016, 06:06 PM

It is a mystery to me that there seems to be a market for a straight military configuration 1911/1911A1 but nobody can be bothered to look at period guns or the public domain blueprints. All the Imitation Army Surplus pistols on the market differ from actual service pistols in one way or another; and I don't mean just the trademarks. Colt has gotten pretty close but not perfect.

imashooter · January 14, 2016, 08:44 PM

They're still available. I'll post mine here.

Tested it about 3 weeks ago for functionality and operation.

Conditions were mid 60s(F), party cloudy, no wind.

Ammunition: commercial box / 230gr. fmj / brass / 140 rounds

Magazines: 6-7 assorted manufacturers

Fired several 2-grip, strong hand / 2-grip weak hand / single hand (left and right) / strong & weak grips / normal orientation and "gangsta" style.

No hiccups. I didn't really go for accuracy this session

I conducted single fires with perhaps 2 seconds between rounds / 1 second shots / double & triple "taps" / rapid fire the entire 7-round magazines.

Perhaps 10-15 rounds were aimed at center of target w/ a conventional 2-hand (strong) grip. Did this at 10 / 20 meters (backyard range staked off) Not bad results considering I'm not really a sights person but I wanted to see how that tall front sight did. Believe the front sight is the same height as my Colt O1970A1CS w/ high profile sights.

At both distances I was a little low and left. I used both my Nork (very accurate) and one of my Rocks (my really accurate one) for comparison. They were both dead on at my 10 meter line. My very preliminary analysis is I blame the front sight (I can't take the blame

). It's like having a dead bird on your windshield. I could compensate for that since I had consistent groups and it did fine. 20 meters is something I rarely do but I do it just enough to try and maintain a minimum level of proficiency at that extended range. 90 + percent of my shooting with a hand gun is at 5-7 meters.

Along with no hiccups no matter what I did, I was also impressed with how clean the barrel was after 140 rounds (20 magazines). While firing conventionally, the cases were very consistent between 3:30 - 4:30 and 4-5 feet out. Probably 75% (actually I think more) all landed in about a 3ft. circle. I found that to be impressive as well.

What I found a little peculiar was the minimum amount of residue smudge on the front inch or so of the slide. Have no idea if that was due to the pistol, ammunition, ..... But is was readily noticeable as compared to my other 1911s.

So there you have it. In the next few days I hope to go through another couple of hundred rounds for accuracy.

All in all I find it to be a very nice, smooth operating, well functioning 1911. Though it's early, I would likely buy it all over again for the price I paid (690.00).

Today I fit a Wilson Combat Ultralight Match Flat Trigger (solid style). Probably test it tomorrow.

The target area is in my immediate back yard w/ a backdrop of open pasture, pond, and wooded area. The backstop consists of 2 stacks of assorted railroad ties, 6x6s, and 4x6s. They are secured to one another with 4" sheetrock screws. Between the 2 stacks is about 8" or so of open safe. Facing the shooter are three lag hooks from which I have suspended an old, thick carpet from the storage area of a SUV. It suspends about 2-3" from the wood. I normally mark up cheap paper plates, spray them with spray adhesive and stick them to the carpet. The target photo is old. The large white rectangle is an old Pepsi sign made from good quality outdoor material. The backsides are plain white and can be marked up all sorts of ways. I have a bunch of those that the local Pepsi route manager gives me when any given promotion ends. Very convenient for handguns.

TunnelRat · January 14, 2016, 09:02 PM

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They were a limited run IIRC 1000 only.

Well that bursts my bubble.

imashooter · January 14, 2016, 09:19 PM

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...1+A1+45ACP+7RD

Didn't check all these however ...... https://gunwatcher.com/Search/cz-1911-for-sale

January 14, 2016, 10:59 AM	#1
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	That CZ 1911 I read about a while back. Anyone actually bought one? If yes, spill the beans and show the beans! What are they like and where do they sit in the grand scale of all things 1911?

January 14, 2016, 11:06 AM	#3
WVsig Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: NC Posts: 5,309	They are nice but they are gone. They were a limited run IIRC 1000 only. It is a nicely fitted and finished non-mim 1911 by all accounts. I would have considered getting one for a base gun or GI shooter but with no more coming down the pipe I will pass. Prices are pushing north of $725. __________________ -The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis -Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin -It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

January 14, 2016, 11:01 AM	#2
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 19,180	They made a thousand and quit. Quality is good except I saw a couple of reviews that said thumb safety operation was not equal to the rest of the gun.

January 14, 2016, 06:06 PM	#5
Jim Watson Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2001 Location: Alabama Posts: 19,180	It is a mystery to me that there seems to be a market for a straight military configuration 1911/1911A1 but nobody can be bothered to look at period guns or the public domain blueprints. All the Imitation Army Surplus pistols on the market differ from actual service pistols in one way or another; and I don't mean just the trademarks. Colt has gotten pretty close but not perfect.

January 14, 2016, 08:44 PM	#6
imashooter Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 404	They're still available. I'll post mine here. Tested it about 3 weeks ago for functionality and operation. Conditions were mid 60s(F), party cloudy, no wind. Ammunition: commercial box / 230gr. fmj / brass / 140 rounds Magazines: 6-7 assorted manufacturers Fired several 2-grip, strong hand / 2-grip weak hand / single hand (left and right) / strong & weak grips / normal orientation and "gangsta" style. No hiccups. I didn't really go for accuracy this session I conducted single fires with perhaps 2 seconds between rounds / 1 second shots / double & triple "taps" / rapid fire the entire 7-round magazines. Perhaps 10-15 rounds were aimed at center of target w/ a conventional 2-hand (strong) grip. Did this at 10 / 20 meters (backyard range staked off) Not bad results considering I'm not really a sights person but I wanted to see how that tall front sight did. Believe the front sight is the same height as my Colt O1970A1CS w/ high profile sights. At both distances I was a little low and left. I used both my Nork (very accurate) and one of my Rocks (my really accurate one) for comparison. They were both dead on at my 10 meter line. My very preliminary analysis is I blame the front sight (I can't take the blame ). It's like having a dead bird on your windshield. I could compensate for that since I had consistent groups and it did fine. 20 meters is something I rarely do but I do it just enough to try and maintain a minimum level of proficiency at that extended range. 90 + percent of my shooting with a hand gun is at 5-7 meters. Along with no hiccups no matter what I did, I was also impressed with how clean the barrel was after 140 rounds (20 magazines). While firing conventionally, the cases were very consistent between 3:30 - 4:30 and 4-5 feet out. Probably 75% (actually I think more) all landed in about a 3ft. circle. I found that to be impressive as well. What I found a little peculiar was the minimum amount of residue smudge on the front inch or so of the slide. Have no idea if that was due to the pistol, ammunition, ..... But is was readily noticeable as compared to my other 1911s. So there you have it. In the next few days I hope to go through another couple of hundred rounds for accuracy. All in all I find it to be a very nice, smooth operating, well functioning 1911. Though it's early, I would likely buy it all over again for the price I paid (690.00). Today I fit a Wilson Combat Ultralight Match Flat Trigger (solid style). Probably test it tomorrow. The target area is in my immediate back yard w/ a backdrop of open pasture, pond, and wooded area. The backstop consists of 2 stacks of assorted railroad ties, 6x6s, and 4x6s. They are secured to one another with 4" sheetrock screws. Between the 2 stacks is about 8" or so of open safe. Facing the shooter are three lag hooks from which I have suspended an old, thick carpet from the storage area of a SUV. It suspends about 2-3" from the wood. I normally mark up cheap paper plates, spray them with spray adhesive and stick them to the carpet. The target photo is old. The large white rectangle is an old Pepsi sign made from good quality outdoor material. The backsides are plain white and can be marked up all sorts of ways. I have a bunch of those that the local Pepsi route manager gives me when any given promotion ends. Very convenient for handguns.

January 14, 2016, 09:19 PM	#8
imashooter Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2013 Location: Alabama Posts: 404	http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...1+A1+45ACP+7RD Didn't check all these however ...... https://gunwatcher.com/Search/cz-1911-for-sale