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View Poll Results: AR vs. AK ownership / interest
More than 1 AR, no AKs 44 20.66%
1 AR, no AKs 44 20.66%
No ARs or AKs, but will likely have an AR within a year 10 4.69%
No ARs or AKs, but will likely have an AK within a year 3 1.41%
1 AK, no ARs 16 7.51%
More than 1 AK, no ARs 10 4.69%
At least one of each 65 30.52%
No ARs or AKs, but will likely have both within a year 4 1.88%
No ARs or AKs, and not likely to buy either within a year 17 7.98%
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Old October 18, 2012, 12:55 PM   #1
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AR vs. AK ownership and interest

I'm not trying to ignore the alternatives, but Stoner's AR and Kalashnikov's AK platforms seem to have the most mindshare in discussions of "tactical" semiautomatic rifles available to civilians. I'm interested in how many users of each we have on TFL and the relative levels of interest. There's also a response category for those with no interest in either.

As a side note, it's not easy to design a poll where the categories are mutually exclusive and everyone fits into only one category. Hopefully I've been able to do that.
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Old October 18, 2012, 01:08 PM   #2
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I have 2 ARs, one in it's original 5.56 the other in 9mm, both are never leaving my collection.

I used to have an AK, after 2 years of trying to warm up to it and over 1,000 rounds through it(not a lot to some but a lot for me) I sold it for a loss. I just could not find any redeeming qualities to that rifle. the AR is a dated design but I still prefer it to any of the modern alternatives. it is nearly 100 percent ambidextrous with some of the higher end makers suck as Seekins Precision making 100% ambidextrous controls. you never have to remove your firing hand or break sight picture from the weapon for reloads, charging, clearing drills, ETC. the AK just can't do that.

and FWIW I have never had a failure with my 5.56 AR, (9mm is picky about mags) but I suffered many stoppages with the AK.
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Old October 18, 2012, 01:21 PM   #3
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Have both and feel you can't appreciate the merits of one without owning the other.
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Old October 18, 2012, 01:34 PM   #4
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AR / SKS for me

Nothing against the AK - my brother has an AK74 with a red dot that is an absolute treat. I may end up getting an AK one day, but I'm quite happy with what I have for now.
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Old October 18, 2012, 01:37 PM   #5
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I own and enjoy both platforms with one AK and one AR. I do like the AR a little better simply because of ergonomics and weight but I love the AK for its no BS appearance and function. Both have their pros and cons.

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Old October 18, 2012, 01:41 PM   #6
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I have nothing bad to say about the AK platform, but I just prefer the AR.
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Old October 18, 2012, 02:41 PM   #7
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I have multiple AR's and only 1 AK and it is for sale. So I voted multiple/no.

I like the AK. It was my 1st evil Black rifle way back in 1998. I always craved one growing up. (I would always give me GI Joe's AK's to replace their rifles)

I just find that I am much better with the AR than the AK even with more experience with the AK.

Plus, as I get older, the sights on the AK are harder for me to use.

The AK is a delight to look at though and an example of extreme simplicity in operation.
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Old October 18, 2012, 02:46 PM   #8
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Have both after being a die hard AK fan. Now after shortly owning an AR I am a fan of both.

I really like the AR for it's accuracy. My go to gun is still the AK for it's reliability.

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Old October 18, 2012, 02:56 PM   #9
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...what reliability issue/s have you had with your AR?
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Old October 18, 2012, 03:02 PM   #10
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1 ar-100




1 7.62 ak

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Old October 18, 2012, 03:33 PM   #11
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No AK

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Just started ordering parts for my first AR
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Old October 18, 2012, 04:08 PM   #12
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I like the idea of having both and I had both at one time. I now only have AR's but I am still a fan of AK's and woud like to get one in the future.
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Old October 18, 2012, 04:20 PM   #13
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One thing to note about the AR platform is that is can be adapted to many different alternate uses ("tactical" competition, hunting, precision shooting, .22LR plinking, etc.) that the AK is not as suited for.

I think that is why you'll find more folks owning multiple ARs than owning multiple AKs.

That said, both are obviously great platforms.
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Old October 18, 2012, 05:38 PM   #14
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Well, I kinda have 1/2 of each.

Daewoo DR200. Basically, an AR FCG with an AK gas system.
Best of both worlds, baby
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Old October 18, 2012, 05:44 PM   #15
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I had a Saiga conversion for a few years. Once I got into reloading, it became obvious it wasn't the ideal platform for that plus adding optics was not it's strong suit.

I just regret the 223 caliber is so tiny compared to the x39. Sure miss that solid thump it provided.

If I had to do it over, I'd probably just get a VZ 58.
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Old October 18, 2012, 05:49 PM   #16
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Great comments so far, and some nice pics. Keep'em coming!
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Old October 18, 2012, 05:49 PM   #17
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I have > 4 of each. I prefer the AR for the mag release and the bolt hold-open. AR is also easier to mount optics.
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Old October 18, 2012, 05:53 PM   #18
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I own 1 AR and trust it. I had an AK but just couldn't find any use for it. It was a pre-ban folder and was kinda fun to blast away with but I couldn't get past the lack of accuracy or the crappy sights. I sold it a few years back and don't miss it at all.
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Old October 18, 2012, 06:14 PM   #19
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I have an SKS rifle. Why would I want a carbine that loses velocity and accuracy when compared to the SKS, particularly when dealing with an already underpowered round?
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Old October 18, 2012, 06:43 PM   #20
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AKs just don't do it for me. I have 3 ARs 1 A2 set up for CMP service rifle, a KISS carbine and a 300 Blk carbine. I also have a Mini 14
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Old October 18, 2012, 06:44 PM   #21
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mindset

It comes down to ones mindset...at least to some degree. "tactical semiautomatics".
I think of my AR as sporting goods.
There is nothing that I want to do with a rifle that the AR won't do better than an AK.
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Old October 18, 2012, 06:46 PM   #22
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I have 2 AR15s in 5.56/.223 and I just built a AR15 in 300 AAC BLK.

I have my old faithful WASR 10/63 that I bought for $249.00

I think the 300 BLK is going to be the best of both worlds.
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Old October 18, 2012, 08:07 PM   #23
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I got a Romanian Ak variant fr Christmas in the 8th grade. What 13 year old doesn't need an AK?

That being said, my Father always makes it a point to give me guns He knows I'll never buy for myself. That has ranged from a Tec-9 to a Beretta Over-Under shotgun. Without him, I wouldn't have an AK. It's not that I don't like it, I enjoy shooting it, and I can get friends to come to the range with me bcause of it.

I also don't think I'll ever buy an AR-15, atleast not a M-Forgery. I would sorta like an M-16A2 style HBAR match gun, but I got enough tacticalness lugging about my M-4 in the sandbox.
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Old October 18, 2012, 10:26 PM   #24
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Neither. I really disliked the SPROINNGGGG!!! in my ear from the M-16A1 I shot back in 1984, and never tried another one. i had AKs, but the accuracy wasn't what I was really happy with.

So I got a couple of SA vz-58 rifles instead.



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Old October 18, 2012, 10:37 PM   #25
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ARs for me, I once had an AK but was dissatisfied with the accuracy, after I bought a $99 SKS, I sold the AK, I still have the bone stock SKS, way more accurate than my AK ever was, but maybe I got a lousy one?
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