Rem 700 or savage 10 series ???

SE7EN · January 28, 2011, 04:50 PM

im looking at buying a heavy barrel .308 and i have it narrowed down to these two. Its going to be used mostly for deer hunting and if i can find the time coyotes. If anyone can provide the pros and cons of either rifle it would be greatly appreciated.

Kawabuggy · January 28, 2011, 05:07 PM

Savage. IMO you will find better accuracy with the Savage, and if you want to change calibers later, it is VERY easy to do with a Savage. Unscrew that .308 barrel, and put another short action barrel on in minutes. If you stick with the standards-22-250, 243, 7MM-08, 6MM (might work in a short action), 260, you can even use the same bolt head, and the magazine follower.

You can also go to .223 but that will require a different bolt head, and also a different follower in the magazine.

The ability to switch barrels, and the superb accuracy, of most Savages just makes it a better choice. Plus, Savages are usually cheaper than comparable Remingtons and you can then put the money you save towards better glass.

Saltydog235 · January 28, 2011, 05:07 PM

I can't say all that much about the Remington other than its a fine rifle and I have had the pleasure to shoot a few but don't own one. I did get my first Savage Model 10 in Predator Bush .243 last weekend. After shooting about 25 times and getting nickel sized groups @ 100yds on the first load and powder/charge I tried, to say I'm pleased is an understatement. I'm going to give some 70's a try over a healthy dose of Varget and see if it gets better. I'm sure if I chose to put a Hubble Telescope on it with a fine reticle it could be downright nasty. Its also a pleasure to shoot. My .02 anyway.

precision_shooter · January 28, 2011, 05:19 PM

Savage for me....

Everyone is probably going to get tired of me posting this pic, but it's the only one I have right now.

Here is my model 10FCP with Choate Tactical Stock, removable magazine that I bought about 10 days ago.

Que · January 28, 2011, 05:29 PM

Assuming that you are staying with a stock trigger it's really hard to beat a Savage. Even my 12 VLP which is pre-Accutrigger is superb and is better than anything that I have experienced from Remington. I haven't worked with my Accutrigger 10FP yet, but I'm liking what I'm feeling so far quite a lot.

FALPhil · January 28, 2011, 06:39 PM

I have both (actually, multiples of both). If you can only have one, make it the Savage. Like Kawabuggy pointed out, the Savage is an easy switch-barrel gun. I don't switch the barrel on my Savage short action, but I do on my long action. I actually have two bolts for it, but it only takes a couple of minutes to switch out the bolt head.

My Remington varmint rifle is in 22-250. It is a tack driver, but no more so than my Savage or my CZ. I had to work up handloads for the Remington and the CZ. I didn't on the Savage - it shoots everything with equal aplomb. That's what I love about it.

The Remington and the CZ are better looking, though.

Desertfox01 · January 28, 2011, 07:48 PM

get the savage. pick up a barrel wrench.....that way, later when you want to swap barrels, as long as you have a go/no-go gauges, you can do it yourself at home. I have had my barrel off a couple times.

reloader-1 · January 28, 2011, 08:56 PM

Another vote for Savage.

Eats any and all ammo, spits out tiny groups.

bigalshootmupper · January 28, 2011, 09:35 PM

Am I the only one here saying get the Remington. Teh 700 Tactical with 20" bull barrel is a very fine rifle. I own one and it shoots under one MOA 5 different factory ammo I have put in it. It will definitely do better, though. I haven't owned mine long enough, but I did find a reload shooting 1" at 200yards consistently. It is cheaper than the Savage.

Actually, you should take a look at the Ruger 20" Hawkeye. My brother just got one and it shot cheap Prvi Partizan ammo under 1MOA. It defintely had a better fit and finish than the Savage and the Rem, but it is about $200 more than the Rem.

I recomment the Rem if you need to save some money or get the Ruger if you want to spend more. In my opinion, the Savage is just a Rem 700 Tactical with an extra $200 price tag. Plus, I like the Hogue stocks better.

reloader-1 · January 29, 2011, 12:11 AM

Savage has the Classic series for the same price as the Ruger Hawkeye (walnut) that blows it out of the water where fit and finish is concerned.

Savage is normally much cheaper than Remington - not sure where you are getting your prices from.

hooligan1 · January 29, 2011, 09:00 AM

I own a 110 in the .270 win, it has a synthetic stock, it also shoots tiny groups, nice trigger, good safety, lightweight. I really couldn't ask for more in any rifle brand. Savage gets my nod also.

pabuckslayer08 · January 29, 2011, 09:25 AM

700 for sure, Savage makes a good gun in the upper price range but there lowere end guns are like the Remington 710 and 770. The 700 is a American Classic is is my vote

PawPaw · January 29, 2011, 09:26 AM

Interesting, I haven't seen a Remington 700 tactical for that price until I saw this thread and started doing a search.

Buds Gun Shop has the Rem 700 Tactical for $575.00.

They've got the Savage 10FP for $625.00.

Either of those is a great value on an excellent rifle. The two linked are the same caliber, both with synthetic stocks and pillar bedding, so we're comparing oranges to oranges.

At that price, it's a wash, and becomes purely personal choice. I'd lean toward the Savage, because that's how I roll, but the Remington is $50.00 cheaper. Darned interesting.

checkmyswag · January 29, 2011, 07:15 PM

Either will be great.

Get the one you like best regardless of name. Look at fit/finish, how smooth the action is...etc

.300 Weatherby Mag · January 29, 2011, 09:16 PM

Savage Model 10...

bigalshootmupper · January 29, 2011, 09:26 PM

I was only talking about the comparison for the 20" bull barrel versions:

Rem 700 Tactical 308
Savage Model 10 Precision Carbine 308
Ruger Hackeye Tactical 308

The Rem is about $200 less than these two. I have handles all three and the Ruger is by far the best in fit and finish. All 3 are tack drivers, though.

The Savage Model 10 FP-SR is not quite the same as these 3. I don't think the barrel is as thick and it is 22".

Durty · January 29, 2011, 11:23 PM

700. Period.

M.O.A. · January 30, 2011, 12:04 AM

i say the savage do to the accutrigger and the trouble that i have been hearing about the 700 im not so sure about them any more

oneoldsap · January 30, 2011, 10:19 AM

What Uncle Sam uses , the 700 !

4runnerman · January 30, 2011, 10:43 AM

Savage Vote here all the way. Rems are ok,but Savage Rocks.

Rimfire5 · January 30, 2011, 11:06 AM

+1 more for the Savage.

I have both and the Savage shot better out of the box with a better trigger.

The Remington got a Timney trigger and now shoots about equal.

The difference in price will go into the Timney trigger.

Go with the Savage.

My .308 10 FP shoots like a dream and the recoil pad lets you shoot it all day. I generally shoot 50 rounds through the Savage without even noticing that I was shooting it. The recoil pad on the Remington 700 is good but not as good as the Savage.

Big Pard · January 30, 2011, 11:22 AM

Remington 700. Savage makes a good gun especially now that they have addressed trigger and bedding issues, but the 700 stocks are better fitting and I personally think they are built better.....Just My Opinion

P.S. Don't get me wrong the Savage is capable of outstanding accuracy, but me personally I favor the Remington.

txgolfer45 · January 30, 2011, 07:48 PM

I went through this same decision recently. I went with the Savage 10 Precision Carbine in .308. It has the accutrigger and accustock. The closest comparable Remington is the 700P LTR that has the fluted 20 inch barrel.

Fusion · January 30, 2011, 11:13 PM

I'd get the Savage.

JGant · January 30, 2011, 11:40 PM

Rem 700....no contest.

January 28, 2011, 04:50 PM	#1
SE7EN Junior Member Join Date: November 7, 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 9	Rem 700 or savage 10 series ??? im looking at buying a heavy barrel .308 and i have it narrowed down to these two. Its going to be used mostly for deer hunting and if i can find the time coyotes. If anyone can provide the pros and cons of either rifle it would be greatly appreciated.

January 28, 2011, 09:35 PM	#9
bigalshootmupper Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 175	Am I the only one here saying get the Remington. Teh 700 Tactical with 20" bull barrel is a very fine rifle. I own one and it shoots under one MOA 5 different factory ammo I have put in it. It will definitely do better, though. I haven't owned mine long enough, but I did find a reload shooting 1" at 200yards consistently. It is cheaper than the Savage. Actually, you should take a look at the Ruger 20" Hawkeye. My brother just got one and it shot cheap Prvi Partizan ammo under 1MOA. It defintely had a better fit and finish than the Savage and the Rem, but it is about $200 more than the Rem. I recomment the Rem if you need to save some money or get the Ruger if you want to spend more. In my opinion, the Savage is just a Rem 700 Tactical with an extra $200 price tag. Plus, I like the Hogue stocks better. __________________ ”If you want to find out what is wrong with your country, go look in the mirror.” Ross Perot

January 29, 2011, 09:00 AM	#11
hooligan1 Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2010 Location: Independence Missouri Posts: 4,619	I own a 110 in the .270 win, it has a synthetic stock, it also shoots tiny groups, nice trigger, good safety, lightweight. I really couldn't ask for more in any rifle brand. Savage gets my nod also. __________________ Keep your Axe sharp and your powder dry.

January 29, 2011, 09:26 PM	#16
bigalshootmupper Senior Member Join Date: November 21, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 175	I was only talking about the comparison for the 20" bull barrel versions: Rem 700 Tactical 308 Savage Model 10 Precision Carbine 308 Ruger Hackeye Tactical 308 The Rem is about $200 less than these two. I have handles all three and the Ruger is by far the best in fit and finish. All 3 are tack drivers, though. The Savage Model 10 FP-SR is not quite the same as these 3. I don't think the barrel is as thick and it is 22". __________________ ”If you want to find out what is wrong with your country, go look in the mirror.” Ross Perot

January 29, 2011, 11:23 PM	#17
Durty Member Join Date: January 16, 2011 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 34	700 700. Period.

January 28, 2011, 05:07 PM	#2
Kawabuggy Senior Member Join Date: April 25, 2008 Posts: 224	Savage. IMO you will find better accuracy with the Savage, and if you want to change calibers later, it is VERY easy to do with a Savage. Unscrew that .308 barrel, and put another short action barrel on in minutes. If you stick with the standards-22-250, 243, 7MM-08, 6MM (might work in a short action), 260, you can even use the same bolt head, and the magazine follower. You can also go to .223 but that will require a different bolt head, and also a different follower in the magazine. The ability to switch barrels, and the superb accuracy, of most Savages just makes it a better choice. Plus, Savages are usually cheaper than comparable Remingtons and you can then put the money you save towards better glass.

January 28, 2011, 05:07 PM	#3
Saltydog235 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2010 Location: Pawleys Island Posts: 1,563	I can't say all that much about the Remington other than its a fine rifle and I have had the pleasure to shoot a few but don't own one. I did get my first Savage Model 10 in Predator Bush .243 last weekend. After shooting about 25 times and getting nickel sized groups @ 100yds on the first load and powder/charge I tried, to say I'm pleased is an understatement. I'm going to give some 70's a try over a healthy dose of Varget and see if it gets better. I'm sure if I chose to put a Hubble Telescope on it with a fine reticle it could be downright nasty. Its also a pleasure to shoot. My .02 anyway.

January 28, 2011, 05:19 PM	#4
precision_shooter Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 2,475	Savage for me.... Everyone is probably going to get tired of me posting this pic, but it's the only one I have right now. Here is my model 10FCP with Choate Tactical Stock, removable magazine that I bought about 10 days ago.

January 28, 2011, 05:29 PM	#5
Que Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 912	Assuming that you are staying with a stock trigger it's really hard to beat a Savage. Even my 12 VLP which is pre-Accutrigger is superb and is better than anything that I have experienced from Remington. I haven't worked with my Accutrigger 10FP yet, but I'm liking what I'm feeling so far quite a lot.

January 28, 2011, 06:39 PM	#6
FALPhil Senior Member Join Date: September 10, 2007 Location: Racoon City Posts: 934	I have both (actually, multiples of both). If you can only have one, make it the Savage. Like Kawabuggy pointed out, the Savage is an easy switch-barrel gun. I don't switch the barrel on my Savage short action, but I do on my long action. I actually have two bolts for it, but it only takes a couple of minutes to switch out the bolt head. My Remington varmint rifle is in 22-250. It is a tack driver, but no more so than my Savage or my CZ. I had to work up handloads for the Remington and the CZ. I didn't on the Savage - it shoots everything with equal aplomb. That's what I love about it. The Remington and the CZ are better looking, though.

January 28, 2011, 07:48 PM	#7
Desertfox01 Junior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: phoenix, AZ Posts: 5	get the savage. pick up a barrel wrench.....that way, later when you want to swap barrels, as long as you have a go/no-go gauges, you can do it yourself at home. I have had my barrel off a couple times.

January 28, 2011, 08:56 PM	#8
reloader-1 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2009 Posts: 123	Another vote for Savage. Eats any and all ammo, spits out tiny groups.

January 29, 2011, 12:11 AM	#10
reloader-1 Senior Member Join Date: April 22, 2009 Posts: 123	Savage has the Classic series for the same price as the Ruger Hawkeye (walnut) that blows it out of the water where fit and finish is concerned. Savage is normally much cheaper than Remington - not sure where you are getting your prices from.

January 29, 2011, 09:25 AM	#12
pabuckslayer08 Senior Member Join Date: December 18, 2010 Location: South Central Pa Posts: 692	700 for sure, Savage makes a good gun in the upper price range but there lowere end guns are like the Remington 710 and 770. The 700 is a American Classic is is my vote

January 29, 2011, 09:26 AM	#13
PawPaw Senior Member Join Date: December 24, 2010 Location: Central Louisiana Posts: 3,137	Interesting, I haven't seen a Remington 700 tactical for that price until I saw this thread and started doing a search. Buds Gun Shop has the Rem 700 Tactical for $575.00. They've got the Savage 10FP for $625.00. Either of those is a great value on an excellent rifle. The two linked are the same caliber, both with synthetic stocks and pillar bedding, so we're comparing oranges to oranges. At that price, it's a wash, and becomes purely personal choice. I'd lean toward the Savage, because that's how I roll, but the Remington is $50.00 cheaper. Darned interesting.

January 29, 2011, 07:15 PM	#14
checkmyswag Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 1,328	Either will be great. Get the one you like best regardless of name. Look at fit/finish, how smooth the action is...etc

January 29, 2011, 09:16 PM	#15
.300 Weatherby Mag Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2008 Posts: 1,777	Savage Model 10...

January 30, 2011, 12:04 AM	#18
M.O.A. Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2011 Location: south indiana Posts: 555	i say the savage do to the accutrigger and the trouble that i have been hearing about the 700 im not so sure about them any more

January 30, 2011, 10:19 AM	#19
oneoldsap Senior Member Join Date: September 16, 2009 Location: I live in the foot of the Green Mountains of Vermont Posts: 1,602	What Uncle Sam uses , the 700 !

January 30, 2011, 10:43 AM	#20
4runnerman Senior Member Join Date: January 16, 2010 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,577	Savage Vote here all the way. Rems are ok,but Savage Rocks.

January 30, 2011, 11:06 AM	#21
Rimfire5 Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2009 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 978	+1 more for the Savage. I have both and the Savage shot better out of the box with a better trigger. The Remington got a Timney trigger and now shoots about equal. The difference in price will go into the Timney trigger. Go with the Savage. My .308 10 FP shoots like a dream and the recoil pad lets you shoot it all day. I generally shoot 50 rounds through the Savage without even noticing that I was shooting it. The recoil pad on the Remington 700 is good but not as good as the Savage.

January 30, 2011, 11:22 AM	#22
Big Pard Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2011 Location: North Carolina Posts: 191	Remington 700. Savage makes a good gun especially now that they have addressed trigger and bedding issues, but the 700 stocks are better fitting and I personally think they are built better.....Just My Opinion P.S. Don't get me wrong the Savage is capable of outstanding accuracy, but me personally I favor the Remington.

January 30, 2011, 07:48 PM	#23
txgolfer45 Member Join Date: June 26, 2009 Posts: 24	I went through this same decision recently. I went with the Savage 10 Precision Carbine in .308. It has the accutrigger and accustock. The closest comparable Remington is the 700P LTR that has the fluted 20 inch barrel.

January 30, 2011, 11:13 PM	#24
Fusion Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2010 Posts: 429	I'd get the Savage.

January 30, 2011, 11:40 PM	#25
JGant Member Join Date: September 26, 2010 Posts: 33	Rem 700....no contest.