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Glock 19 and J-Point RDS
Suarez International has of late been pushing the concept of a small red dot sight (notably, the Trijicon RMR) on a defensive pistol. I know they aren't the first. FN also offers a mount option for their FNP pistol.
I wanted to try the concept, so I obtained a JP Enterprises J-Point and an Aristocrat Glock base. There are various companies who will mill and melt in the sight into a slide, but I wanted to try it without sinking a lot of money into the project. After mounting, I gave it a rough zero by aligning the dot with the front sight on the pistol. Initial zero was at 10yds to insure I was on paper. I was centered and about 1 1/2 inches high. It was zeroed in short order at 15 yds. Off a rest I was putting rounds through the same hole. The gun/sight combo fit one of my Summer Special-type holsters, so I did some draw and firing work. I did ok, but not spectacular. I've shot iron sights on a pistol for 30 years, vs about 2 days using this combination. I moved out to 50 yds, and had to kneel by my Jeep and use the bumper for a improvised rest (not an unrealistic scenario, IMO). I managed to keep a magazine of rounds inside a sheet of 8x10 paper at this distance. The Jpoint I received had a battery with it, but I had no clue how old it was. As I moved back to closer range, the dot disappeared. Simulating a broken unit or dead battery, I centered the target in the sight window and still did good work out to 15 or so yds. One can also add a high suppressor front sight and use the window as a giant ghost ring in case of unit failure. Putting a new battery in lit everything back up and zero was only off by 1/2 inch when it was remounted. According to JP Quote:
Personally, although I need more practice, I think this is a valid idea. I look forward to more practice with the gun. ![]() Glock 19, Jpoint sight in Aristocrat mount, and G17+2 magazine. |
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I CCW'd the gun some this week, in a slightly modified Summer Special type holster. I had to notch it a little to get the sight to sit deep enough.
No more difficult to carry than any pistol with appropriate holster. http://www.warriortalknews.com/2010/...stols-why.html Quote:
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More on my J-Point G19. I put a couple of hundred more rounds through it this week.
I've been experimenting with the slide on both my full G19 frame and the one I cut to G26 length. Interestingly, POI changes slightly left or right depending on which frame I'm using. I suspect it has to do with the way I grip each frame. ![]() This target is from kneeling by my Jeep, using the bumper as an improvised rest, at about 35yds. The head shots are from trying to be precise, the body shots are mostly from firing as soon as I acquired the dot. Not great shooting, but I'm still new to the RDS concept: ![]() I do see the value of the 8MOA dot over my 4MOA. Quicker picking up the sight on the draw and recoil recovery. And I suspect the bigger dot doesn't appear to jump around as much as the smaller dot when sighting. My dot doesn't quite line up with my taller front sight, but it is 'close enough' for fair hits out to 25 yds. At close range point shooting techniques work fine. |
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I was using my J-Point sighted G19 just his morning to practice a few Get-Off-The-X drills at the range.
I wasn't trying to find the dot, but rather just looking through the window @ 7-10 yards, drawing and moving to the 9, 11, 1 and 3 o'clock positions: I also did some 50yd standing shots (didn't take a pic of the target) that were also on target and about 8-10" group. |
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