I found this bolt face compatibility thread, can anyone add to this list

sthrnfryedyankee · March 12, 2009, 08:43 PM

Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .384 +/-
17 Rem, 204 Ruger. 222 Rimingtion, and 223 Rem.

Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .470 +/-
225 Winchester, 22/250 Remingtion, 6mm Norma BR, 243 Win, 250 Savage, 260 Rem,
6.5/284 Norma, 7/08 Rem, 284 win, 300 Savage, 308 Win, 338 Federal, 35 Rem, and
the 358 Winchester.

Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540+/-
223 WSSM, 243 WSSM, 25 WSSM, 7mm Rem saum, 7mm WSM, 300 Rem saum, 300
WSM, 325 WSM, and the 350 Rem Mag.

Long actions with a bolt face .DIA of .470 +/-
220 Swift, 6mm Rem, 240 Weatherby Mag, 257 Roberts, 25-06 Rem, 257 Weatherby ,
6.5x55 Swedish, 270 Win, 7x57 Mauser, 7x64 Brenneke, 280 Rem, 30/06 Springfield,
8mm Mauser, 338/06 A Square, and the 35 Whelen.

Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540 +/-
264 Win Mag, 270 weatherby Mag, 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm Weatherby Mag, 7 STW,
7mm Rem Ultra Mag, 300 H & H, 300 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby Mag, 300 RUM, 303 Brit,
8mm Rem Mag, 338 Win Mag, 340 Weatherby Mag, 338 RUM, 375 H & H, 375 Weatherby,
375 RUM, 416 Rem Mag, 458 Win Mag, and the 458 Lott.

Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .585 +/-
30/378 Weatherby, 338 Lapua, 338/378 Weatherby, 378 Weatherby mag, 416 Rigby,
416 Weatherby Mag, 460 Weatherby Mag, and the 470 Nitro Express.

kraigwy · March 12, 2009, 09:19 PM

Don't reloading manuals have that information???

sthrnfryedyankee · March 12, 2009, 09:22 PM

they probably do but I dont reload so I wouldnt have a book

PetahW · March 12, 2009, 09:23 PM

Cartridges are classified by rim diameters, and sub-classified by also being belted/non-belted/rebated-rim, rather than classified as bolt-face sizes.

hardhit · March 12, 2009, 09:27 PM

Sorry I don’t mean to be picky but I know for a fact the 257 wby mag, 270-wby mag 7mm Wby Mag are all exactly the same case head the only difference is caliber

**44 AMP** · March 13, 2009, 01:17 AM

So I could quote actual rim diameters, I can add a few things.

Bolt guns have been made for the .22 Hornet (dia smaller than .384)
and for the .25, .30, .32 Remington (smaller than .473)
For the 7.62x54R, .30-40 Krag, .45-70, and 8mm Siamese, cases with huge rims, over .6 in some cases.

the 6mm Rem was chambered in the Rem model 600 rifles, a short action
shorter rounds have been chambered in long actions (with modified magazines), for example, a Win Model 70 in .22-250

Even the .30-30 has been chambered in bolt guns.

And you missed the .222 Remington Magnum (but don't feel bad, eveybody forgets that one these days) as well as the 6x47mm

And a whole host of wildcats.....

Also be aware that there are actually three lengths of action commonly found in sporting/military bolt action rifles. Short, "standard" (for .30-06 length) and Long (longer than .30-06). For example, a K98 Mauser or 1903 Springfield action will take a .30-06 length round, but will not handle a longer round such as the .375 H&H. A 1917 Enfield action will handle the longer round.

You did a fair job of listing rounds and action lengths currently available today, but there are a lot more bolt actions and calibers out there that could be added to your list. They just aren't in current production.

bcp · March 24, 2009, 04:24 PM

Just look up a shell holder list at a reloading web site. Here is one:

http://www.shooterscatalog.com/chart...lder-chart.htm

Bruce

Gewehr98 · March 24, 2009, 04:42 PM

You can chamber a short-action bolt gun in a long-action cartridge.

I've seen it done for cartridges that would nominally be called short-action, but have bullets seated out so far that unfired rounds don't extract/eject well in those actions, necessitating bolt removal with the round.

Solid-bottom short actions like the Remington 40X in 6.5x284 are one example.

March 12, 2009, 08:43 PM	#1
sthrnfryedyankee Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2005 Location: SC Posts: 393	I found this bolt face compatibility thread, can anyone add to this list Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .384 +/- 17 Rem, 204 Ruger. 222 Rimingtion, and 223 Rem. Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .470 +/- 225 Winchester, 22/250 Remingtion, 6mm Norma BR, 243 Win, 250 Savage, 260 Rem, 6.5/284 Norma, 7/08 Rem, 284 win, 300 Savage, 308 Win, 338 Federal, 35 Rem, and the 358 Winchester. Short actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540+/- 223 WSSM, 243 WSSM, 25 WSSM, 7mm Rem saum, 7mm WSM, 300 Rem saum, 300 WSM, 325 WSM, and the 350 Rem Mag. Long actions with a bolt face .DIA of .470 +/- 220 Swift, 6mm Rem, 240 Weatherby Mag, 257 Roberts, 25-06 Rem, 257 Weatherby , 6.5x55 Swedish, 270 Win, 7x57 Mauser, 7x64 Brenneke, 280 Rem, 30/06 Springfield, 8mm Mauser, 338/06 A Square, and the 35 Whelen. Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .540 +/- 264 Win Mag, 270 weatherby Mag, 7mm Rem Mag, 7mm Weatherby Mag, 7 STW, 7mm Rem Ultra Mag, 300 H & H, 300 Win Mag, 300 Weatherby Mag, 300 RUM, 303 Brit, 8mm Rem Mag, 338 Win Mag, 340 Weatherby Mag, 338 RUM, 375 H & H, 375 Weatherby, 375 RUM, 416 Rem Mag, 458 Win Mag, and the 458 Lott. Long actions with a bolt face .Dia of .585 +/- 30/378 Weatherby, 338 Lapua, 338/378 Weatherby, 378 Weatherby mag, 416 Rigby, 416 Weatherby Mag, 460 Weatherby Mag, and the 470 Nitro Express.

March 12, 2009, 09:27 PM	#5
hardhit Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 2008 Posts: 343	Sorry I don’t mean to be picky but I know for a fact the 257 wby mag, 270-wby mag 7mm Wby Mag are all exactly the same case head the only difference is caliber Last edited by hardhit; March 13, 2009 at 02:31 AM.

March 13, 2009, 01:17 AM	#6
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 30,486	without going and finding the right book.... So I could quote actual rim diameters, I can add a few things. Bolt guns have been made for the .22 Hornet (dia smaller than .384) and for the .25, .30, .32 Remington (smaller than .473) For the 7.62x54R, .30-40 Krag, .45-70, and 8mm Siamese, cases with huge rims, over .6 in some cases. the 6mm Rem was chambered in the Rem model 600 rifles, a short action shorter rounds have been chambered in long actions (with modified magazines), for example, a Win Model 70 in .22-250 Even the .30-30 has been chambered in bolt guns. And you missed the .222 Remington Magnum (but don't feel bad, eveybody forgets that one these days) as well as the 6x47mm And a whole host of wildcats..... Also be aware that there are actually three lengths of action commonly found in sporting/military bolt action rifles. Short, "standard" (for .30-06 length) and Long (longer than .30-06). For example, a K98 Mauser or 1903 Springfield action will take a .30-06 length round, but will not handle a longer round such as the .375 H&H. A 1917 Enfield action will handle the longer round. You did a fair job of listing rounds and action lengths currently available today, but there are a lot more bolt actions and calibers out there that could be added to your list. They just aren't in current production. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

March 24, 2009, 04:42 PM	#8
Gewehr98 Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2000 Location: Token Creek, WI Posts: 4,067	Just to be fair... You can chamber a short-action bolt gun in a long-action cartridge. I've seen it done for cartridges that would nominally be called short-action, but have bullets seated out so far that unfired rounds don't extract/eject well in those actions, necessitating bolt removal with the round. Solid-bottom short actions like the Remington 40X in 6.5x284 are one example.

March 12, 2009, 09:19 PM	#2
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 11,060	Don't reloading manuals have that information???

March 12, 2009, 09:22 PM	#3
sthrnfryedyankee Senior Member Join Date: April 23, 2005 Location: SC Posts: 393	they probably do but I dont reload so I wouldnt have a book

March 12, 2009, 09:23 PM	#4
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 4,678	Cartridges are classified by rim diameters, and sub-classified by also being belted/non-belted/rebated-rim, rather than classified as bolt-face sizes.

March 24, 2009, 04:24 PM	#7
bcp Member Join Date: October 24, 2001 Location: SW WA Posts: 30	Just look up a shell holder list at a reloading web site. Here is one: http://www.shooterscatalog.com/chart...lder-chart.htm Bruce