Muzzle Brakes

precision_shooter · September 9, 2007, 07:53 PM

I need Suggestions for a "good" gunsmith in the DFW, Texas area to have a Muzzle Brake installed on my Mid-Range target/Varmint rifle. Any suggestions on where to go or better yet, where not to go?

Art Eatman · September 10, 2007, 06:52 PM

To me, a muzzle brake is a device to reduce the recoil from some sort of shoulder-thumper*. So, my recommendation for a "mid-range target/Varmint" rifle is: Don't bother.

Art

* And annoy the bejeezus out of everybody around you at the range.

tINY · September 10, 2007, 07:10 PM

Skip the brake unless you really need it. For varmints, I'd say load lighter bullets.....

-tINY

Lavid2002 · September 10, 2007, 07:18 PM

BUT .223 KICK! just kidding...take the advice....save ur $$ : D

MacGille · September 10, 2007, 10:24 PM

Muzzle brake? what for? save the money for something useful. like a range finder.

MeekAndMild · September 10, 2007, 11:56 PM

Sorry Precision, my scant trips to Dallas have been on the way to points west and I've never stopped there long enough to know the territory. If I had a gun I wanted to fit with one I'd probably send it off to the brake manufacturer's shop to have the work done. Welcome to TFL.

Arabia · September 16, 2007, 04:47 PM

Muzzle brakes are not designed to reduce the recoil but to control the muzzle climb (flip) on the rifle. MB will help keep the rifle on target after the shot. They can be very effective on an carbine or short barrel AR. On a long barrel varmint rifle it probably won't make a huge difference.

Art Eatman · September 16, 2007, 06:07 PM

Arabia, the action of a muzzle brake depends in part on the angles of the cuts. I suggest reading some about the variations. Yes, they can act to reduce muzzle jump; no doubt. But angled to the rear, they do reduce recoil. I suggest looking at Barrett's solutions on his lightweight .50BMGs.

Art

precision_shooter · September 16, 2007, 07:20 PM

The break I have is this one www.jprifles.com/1.4.2.php model JPRE-428. It is going on my Tikka T3 Super Varmint 7mm Mag. It will not only reduce recoil but also control muzzle jump. The recoil of the 7mm Mag is not that bad, but throw in the fact that I spend anywhere from 3-6 hours shooting over 100 rds then it can get kinda painfull on the shoulder. I was just needing a reputable place to install it.

Art Eatman · September 17, 2007, 01:22 PM

A 7mm Maggie isn't usually thought of as a varmint rifle.

Art

hoytinak · September 17, 2007, 01:41 PM

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A 7mm Maggie isn't usually thought of as a varmint rifle.

One of my funnest prairie dog rifles is my Winchester 7mm.

Manedwolf · September 17, 2007, 02:59 PM

Just a side note on that, it is, indeed, a muzzle BRAKE.

It drives me nuts when I see people use "muzzle break", especially in print. It's like calling a magazine a "clip".

A muzzle break is when you fire a rifle with the boresighter still in it.

A BRAKE is a device that redirects some of the gases to reduce recoil or counter muzzle rise.

Art Eatman · September 17, 2007, 04:03 PM

Now, now, hoytinak, I said, "usually". Face it, when folks say, "Varmint rifle," they're usually talking about 6mm or smaller.

Then there was a buddy of mine who thought a good reason to buy a trade-in Model 70 in .458 WinMag was to shoot armadillos...

, Art

Socrates · September 17, 2007, 04:53 PM

P shooter:
Can't help with anybody in Texas. Jack Huntington put a great one on my 375 H&H, but, he's in Kali.

S

Scorch · September 17, 2007, 05:04 PM

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A 7mm Maggie isn't usually thought of as a varmint rifle

That depends on the size of the varmints! But seriously, I had a friend in Nevada that used his 7mm Rem Mag for rockchucks at 600 yds. A 120 gr bullet at 3600 fps is quite impressive!!

precision_shooter · September 17, 2007, 09:12 PM

Just a side note on that, it is, indeed, a muzzle BRAKE

Touché Manedwolf! I usually try to correct myself when I do that.

BMARM4 · September 18, 2007, 08:16 AM

On light "vermin" ammo, wouldn't a brake effect accuracy?

I have a Savage 116SE, 458 Win. Mag. Safari with an adjustable brake (turns it on or off by opening or closing the vents). On, it definately reduces recoil, but makes for an unpleasant experience (sound wise) for any spectators to your side.

Art Eatman · September 19, 2007, 08:54 AM

Me, I'd sight in for the condition I'd use in the field. So, I'd do the sight-in when no other folks were around...

, Art

FirstFreedom · September 19, 2007, 09:13 AM

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Then there was a buddy of mine who thought a good reason to buy a trade-in Model 70 in .458 WinMag was to shoot armadillos...

Lol, armadillo gun.... Now *I* have been known to really reach for justifications for a new rifle, but that takes the cake!

applesanity · September 19, 2007, 09:36 AM

Oh muzzle brakes.

I'll be sure to be as far away from you as possible if or when we happen to be at the same range at the same time.

Nothing personal. I'm sure you shower frequently.

Eghad · September 19, 2007, 09:47 AM

I purchased a Browning in 30.-06 with a BOSS System. Maybe because the gunshop was going out of business and it was a good price. All I know is it makes a lot of noise when you pull the trigger

. If I had it to do over I would have got the rifle without the muzzle brake.

Manedwolf · September 19, 2007, 10:40 AM

I've often wondered what effect this might have on my K-31's recoil, but am afraid it'd affect the tack-driving accuracy...

Barber2678 · September 19, 2007, 12:48 PM

I know a good smith over in Jacksonville, but that is 2 hours east of DFW.

groberts · October 26, 2007, 12:02 PM

I have a question about muzzle breaks as well. I am new to this forum, so forgive me for interrupting. I just purchased a new Ruger 10-22, and I love it- it is a great little gun. I don't have a target barrel on it, as I just use it for plinking at this point, but I think I want to put a muzzle break on it, to keep muzzle rise down. I have read however, that muzzle breaks on such small caliber rifles, may affect acuracy. Is this the case? Will a muzzle break reduce velocity of the bullets exiting my barrel? Any help on this will be greatly appreciated!

Manedwolf · October 26, 2007, 02:32 PM

Brake. Not Break.

September 9, 2007, 07:53 PM	#1
precision_shooter Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 2,475	Muzzle Brakes I need Suggestions for a "good" gunsmith in the DFW, Texas area to have a Muzzle Brake installed on my Mid-Range target/Varmint rifle. Any suggestions on where to go or better yet, where not to go?

September 10, 2007, 07:18 PM	#4
Lavid2002 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2007 Posts: 2,568	!!! BUT .223 KICK! just kidding...take the advice....save ur $$ : D

September 19, 2007, 12:48 PM	#23
Barber2678 Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2006 Location: Mud Creek, Texas Posts: 269	I know a good smith over in Jacksonville, but that is 2 hours east of DFW. __________________ When in doubt ..... mumble!

September 10, 2007, 06:52 PM	#2
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	To me, a muzzle brake is a device to reduce the recoil from some sort of shoulder-thumper. So, my recommendation for a "mid-range target/Varmint" rifle is: Don't bother. Art And annoy the bejeezus out of everybody around you at the range.

September 10, 2007, 07:10 PM	#3
tINY Senior Member Join Date: April 26, 2005 Location: Orygun Posts: 2,589	Skip the brake unless you really need it. For varmints, I'd say load lighter bullets..... -tINY

September 10, 2007, 10:24 PM	#5
MacGille Senior Member Join Date: July 7, 2006 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 976	Muzzle brake? what for? save the money for something useful. like a range finder.

September 10, 2007, 11:56 PM	#6
MeekAndMild Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2001 Posts: 4,988	Sorry Precision, my scant trips to Dallas have been on the way to points west and I've never stopped there long enough to know the territory. If I had a gun I wanted to fit with one I'd probably send it off to the brake manufacturer's shop to have the work done. Welcome to TFL.

September 16, 2007, 04:47 PM	#7
Arabia Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2006 Location: Massachusetts, The Bay State Posts: 432	Muzzle brakes are not designed to reduce the recoil but to control the muzzle climb (flip) on the rifle. MB will help keep the rifle on target after the shot. They can be very effective on an carbine or short barrel AR. On a long barrel varmint rifle it probably won't make a huge difference.

September 16, 2007, 06:07 PM	#8
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Arabia, the action of a muzzle brake depends in part on the angles of the cuts. I suggest reading some about the variations. Yes, they can act to reduce muzzle jump; no doubt. But angled to the rear, they do reduce recoil. I suggest looking at Barrett's solutions on his lightweight .50BMGs. Art

September 16, 2007, 07:20 PM	#9
precision_shooter Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 2,475	The break I have is this one www.jprifles.com/1.4.2.php model JPRE-428. It is going on my Tikka T3 Super Varmint 7mm Mag. It will not only reduce recoil but also control muzzle jump. The recoil of the 7mm Mag is not that bad, but throw in the fact that I spend anywhere from 3-6 hours shooting over 100 rds then it can get kinda painfull on the shoulder. I was just needing a reputable place to install it.

September 17, 2007, 01:22 PM	#10
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	A 7mm Maggie isn't usually thought of as a varmint rifle. Art

September 17, 2007, 02:59 PM	#12
Manedwolf Junior member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Posts: 3,266	Just a side note on that, it is, indeed, a muzzle BRAKE. It drives me nuts when I see people use "muzzle break", especially in print. It's like calling a magazine a "clip". A muzzle break is when you fire a rifle with the boresighter still in it. A BRAKE is a device that redirects some of the gases to reduce recoil or counter muzzle rise.

September 17, 2007, 04:03 PM	#13
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Now, now, hoytinak, I said, "usually". Face it, when folks say, "Varmint rifle," they're usually talking about 6mm or smaller. Then there was a buddy of mine who thought a good reason to buy a trade-in Model 70 in .458 WinMag was to shoot armadillos... , Art

September 17, 2007, 04:53 PM	#14
Socrates Junior member Join Date: January 5, 2005 Location: East Bay NorCal, People's Republik of Kalifornia Posts: 5,866	P shooter: Can't help with anybody in Texas. Jack Huntington put a great one on my 375 H&H, but, he's in Kali. S

September 17, 2007, 09:12 PM	#16
precision_shooter Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: DFW, Texas Posts: 2,475	Just a side note on that, it is, indeed, a muzzle BRAKE Touché Manedwolf! I usually try to correct myself when I do that.

September 18, 2007, 08:16 AM	#17
BMARM4 Member Join Date: May 6, 2007 Location: Pittsboro, North Carolina Posts: 42	On light "vermin" ammo, wouldn't a brake effect accuracy? I have a Savage 116SE, 458 Win. Mag. Safari with an adjustable brake (turns it on or off by opening or closing the vents). On, it definately reduces recoil, but makes for an unpleasant experience (sound wise) for any spectators to your side.

September 19, 2007, 08:54 AM	#18
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Me, I'd sight in for the condition I'd use in the field. So, I'd do the sight-in when no other folks were around... , Art

September 19, 2007, 09:36 AM	#20
applesanity Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2007 Location: Commonwealth of Virginia Posts: 1,134	Oh muzzle brakes. I'll be sure to be as far away from you as possible if or when we happen to be at the same range at the same time. Nothing personal. I'm sure you shower frequently.

September 19, 2007, 09:47 AM	#21
Eghad Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 6,231	I purchased a Browning in 30.-06 with a BOSS System. Maybe because the gunshop was going out of business and it was a good price. All I know is it makes a lot of noise when you pull the trigger . If I had it to do over I would have got the rifle without the muzzle brake.

September 19, 2007, 10:40 AM	#22
Manedwolf Junior member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Posts: 3,266	I've often wondered what effect this might have on my K-31's recoil, but am afraid it'd affect the tack-driving accuracy...

October 26, 2007, 12:02 PM	#24
groberts Junior Member Join Date: October 26, 2007 Location: madison, wi Posts: 1	I have a question about muzzle breaks as well. I am new to this forum, so forgive me for interrupting. I just purchased a new Ruger 10-22, and I love it- it is a great little gun. I don't have a target barrel on it, as I just use it for plinking at this point, but I think I want to put a muzzle break on it, to keep muzzle rise down. I have read however, that muzzle breaks on such small caliber rifles, may affect acuracy. Is this the case? Will a muzzle break reduce velocity of the bullets exiting my barrel? Any help on this will be greatly appreciated!

October 26, 2007, 02:32 PM	#25
Manedwolf Junior member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Posts: 3,266	Brake. Not Break.