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Old January 19, 2010, 08:09 PM   #26
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How about this one?
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Old January 19, 2010, 09:02 PM   #27
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A 7.62X39 Deringer of sorts? No idea about a name though. Or is the ammo in the pic a red herring?
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Old January 19, 2010, 09:12 PM   #28
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Dunno but now I want one!
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Old January 19, 2010, 09:32 PM   #29
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Tricky, Garry; that's a Russian MSP ("malogabaritny spetsialny pistolet", or "compact special pistol"), chambered for an internally-silenced version of the 7.62x39; these use a sliding cup inside the cartridge case to seal all the propellant gas inside the case, but still propel the bullet at a lethal velocity, the same way the US QSPR "tunnel weapon" did.

Here are a couple of other rarish oddballs:











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Old January 20, 2010, 10:13 PM   #30
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No guesses on any of these?
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Old January 20, 2010, 11:25 PM   #31
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Revovler is a UDAR
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Old January 20, 2010, 11:42 PM   #32
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Yep; the Udar (Russian for "Punch") fires a shortened 32-gauge (about 50 calibre) shotshell loaded with rubber, blank, or stun loads, but Tula also makes a smaller-framed version chambered for 9mm Makarov in moonclips, as the R-92. All of the others, except the top one, are also Russian, as a clue.
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Old January 21, 2010, 12:28 AM   #33
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Bottom one is a belt-buckle pistol. German, I think. IIRC, had 3 or 4 barrels, maybe 7.65mm (.32 ACP).
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Old January 21, 2010, 02:12 AM   #34
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Isn't the top one of these that russian underwater ak? No clue what the name of that thing is.
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Old January 21, 2010, 02:33 AM   #35
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ASM-DT Underwater Assault Rifle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaThe ASM-DT is a Russian folding-stock underwater firearm. It emerged in the 1990s.
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Old January 21, 2010, 02:38 AM   #36
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Giat developed a family of small arms based on a 5.7 x 25 mm cartridge in the late 80's before this project was cancelled in favor of the FN P90 (which was in a later development stage). The project “Armes de Défense Rapprochée” (ADR) was to connsist of a semi-automatic pistol, a self-defense weapon (this one) and a small assault rifle. The project "Armes de Défense Rapprochée" (ADR) was to connsist of a semi-automatic pistol, a self-defense weapon (this one) and a small assault rifle. GIAT claimed four times the effective range and one third of the recoil impulse in comparison to 9 x 19 mm for their 5.7 x 25 mm cartidge. GIAT claimed four times the effective range and one third of the recoil impulse in comparison to 9 x 19 mm for their 5.7 x 25 mm cartidge. The prototype shown is apparently only one of several concepts even for the PDW variant. The prototype shown is apparently only one of several concepts even for the PDW variant. Weight was less than 2 kg, overall dimension smaller than 300 x 120 x 30 mm. Weight was less than 2 kg, overall dimension smaller than 300 x 120 x 30 mm. The magazine was in the rear grip. The magazine was in the rear grip. Most interesting was the possibility to use it in a shoulder stance with the fore grip and trigger and as a classic submachinegun in confined spaces with the use of the rear trigger and the fore grip only as a grip. Most interesting was the possibility to use it in a shoulder stance with the fore grip and trigger and as a classic submachinegun in confined spaces with the use of the rear trigger and the fore grip only as a grip. Seems as if it had a grip safety at the rear grip and probably a magazine release catch, too. Seems as if it had a grip safety at the rear grip and probably a magazine release catch, too. It can also be guesssed that it used closed bolt operation because otherwise the emphasized range potential of the cartridge could hardly be exploited for lack of accuracy. It can also be guesssed that it used closed bolt operation because otherwise the emphasized range potential of the cartridge could hardly be exploited for lack of accuracy. At the bottom of the photo is a 5.7 x 25 mm cartridge (left) next to a classic 9 x 19 mm cartridge. At the bottom of the photo is a 5.7 x 25 mm cartridge (left) next to a classic 9 x 19 mm cartridge.

source: Jane's Infantry Weapons 1989-90 source: Jane's Infantry Weapons 1989-90
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Old January 21, 2010, 03:36 AM   #37
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In the doctored photo isn't that a gun you only shoot once?
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Old January 21, 2010, 07:04 AM   #38
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Herohog and rburch got theirs right; the "Morskoy Lev"/"Sea Lion" interchangeable underwater/above water rifle, that will fire either 5.45x39 or 5.66 Dart rounds, and the GIAT PDW, but the one that looks like a belt-buckle gun is actually a "cigarette-case pistol", designed by Igo Stechkin, the same guy that designed the APS Stechkin machine-pistol; it's also chambered for an internally-silenced 7.62mm cartridge, and was known as the "TKB-506A"; he also made another version as the "TKB-506", with a more conventional-looking trigger (below, in this photo of both designs together):

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Old January 21, 2010, 01:35 PM   #39
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The doctored, backwards facing revolver: I've occasionally heard it referred to as a "Smithsinski & Wessonowski". "New Polish target pistol, only fired once!"

P.S. I apologize if the Polish joke offends anyone. The first person I heard that from was Polish.
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Old January 21, 2010, 03:32 PM   #40
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I hope these silenced 7.62 rounds are downloaded a little, out of those Itty-bitty guns? OUCH!
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