Anyone try AA#9 for the M1 Carbine?

[closetgunnut]

Good morning!

I just started loading for a couple CMP Inland carbines and I have a few questions.

So far I've loaded and shot 30 rounds using IMR4227 with Remington brass and pulled 110gr FMJs. The best result I got was with 14 grains, 9 of 10 in the black on an SR-1 target at 100yrds. I'm very happy with that.

While reading my load books and doing some research on-line, I see that AA#9 can be used for the Carbine. A local shop has 1lb of AA#9 for $15.95 and an 8lb keg for $89.95.

I would like to try some since it's cheaper than 4227 and the books say that you can use less powder and get the same velocities as 4227.

Does anyone have experience with this powder? If so, what results did you get? Any suggestions?

BTW, If you haven't shot a Carbine... Man, what a fun little rifle!

Thanks,
Closet

[freakshow10mm]

#9 is a great powder for the 30 Carbine. I don't shoot one or have data handy but a guy over on GTR shoots the crap out of #9 and the Carbine. I'll ask him.

[45Marlin carbine]

use rifle or pistol magnum primer?

[BigDog454]

I use 9 in a ruger 30 carbine pistol and 110 gr bullets, very accurate.

[freakshow10mm]

Use small rifle primers for 30 Carbine.

Here's my load for 30 Carbine:

Surplus LC 110 gr FMJ
LC brass
Rem 6.5
12.5 gr AA 9 (there is a bit of room to work with, however, 30 Carbine powders like 2400 and H110/W296 DO NOT like to be reloaded below 3%, and certainly NOT the usual 10%).
1.680" OAL (this is max OAL, my carbines eat them like no tomorrow)

It is important to note for a carbine to function correctly, the brass length must not be greater than 1.290".

Here's a good online reference:

http://www.reloadammo.com/30mload.htm

From the guy on GTR.

[Crosshair]

It was my understanding that AA#9 was made specifically for the 30 carbine. I use it in mine and it works great. Easy metering and clean burning.

[closetgunnut]

Thanks for the replies!

Seems like #9 is the way to go. The rifle liked the Imr4227 at 14gr with CCI 400 primers but it burned kinda dirty and I had what looked like unburned "kernals" left in the barrel and receiver. I'm gonna go and get some#9 tomorrow and try it out. Gotta let it warm up a little before I go shooting though. Yeah, I'm a wuse.

Is there anything that I should know about it? Is it stick, flake or ball? Will it meter good through Lyman #55 measure?

Crosshair: what meter do you have/use?

freakshow10mm: Thanks for the info! I didn't know about that site. I'll give it a look.

And again thank you guys and this site for Newbies like me.

Tim

[Crosshair]

I use a Lee Auto Disk, I love it. Easy to switch from one load to another. Record the disk combinations and confirm the charge weight after you install the disks. One word of warning, the Lee powder density chart is good enough to get you in the ballpark, but ALWAYS weigh the charge before you start loading ammo as the chart does not seem to be 100% accurate.

The small grain size of AA#9 means you are going to have some leakage over time, however it is not a significant problem.