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Old May 18, 2001, 12:40 AM   #1
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he he he


stock P9 mag fully seated




MK9 mag fully seated


It shoots just as well and just as easily controlled as with the full size grip but... It really disapears when you want to hide it.

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Old May 18, 2001, 12:53 AM   #2
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Looks good! How did the cutting go? What did you use to smooth out the edges?
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Old May 18, 2001, 08:42 AM   #3
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Very nice job.
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Old May 18, 2001, 11:03 AM   #4
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The Chronicles of Shiroikuma

We need to start a section called The Chronicles of Shiroikuma. Where do you come with these ideas? It looks good, and if it fits so much the better.
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Old May 18, 2001, 11:18 AM   #5
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Great job!. I wouldn't have had the guts to do this myself. Looks like it came that way from the factory.
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Old May 18, 2001, 11:22 AM   #6
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Well..a couple of weeks ago in a post he threatened to do it..and damned if he didn't!

Looks great. You dear Sir, are a braver man than I!


Good Shooting
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Old May 18, 2001, 12:08 PM   #7
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The grip's the same length in both pics. Looks to me like he's just demo'ing different length mags.
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Old May 18, 2001, 12:29 PM   #8
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I agree. Stock P9 mag ... MK9 mag. Same grip frame.
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Old May 18, 2001, 01:28 PM   #9
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Thanks for the comments! It was not difficult at all. I just was careful to measure twice cut once. As in the old saying you can keep cutting as many times as you want but it never gets longer so do it right the first time.

I used a coping? saw. Lookes like a hacksaw frame but a narrow blade used for cutting curves in wood to do the cut and various grades of sandpaper to smooth out the edges. They are now as very smooth and I beveled the mag well just like it came from the factory as well. You can tell it was cut as the cast edges look a little shiney compared to the cut edges.

the two pics are both of the cut down grip with different mags to show the diffence in lenght. The long mag is the length with the stock grip and the short mag is the flush fit new length. Both mags work fine. I shot a 2" at 7 yards with the newly cut down gun. Just as well as I shoot it full size. The darn thing still shoots a 1" or so left though.

I had to work up the nerve to do it though...

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Old May 18, 2001, 01:44 PM   #10
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Question deleted, sorry.
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Old May 18, 2001, 03:14 PM   #11
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Big, brass ones!

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Old May 18, 2001, 03:29 PM   #12
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nice hack job
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Old May 18, 2001, 04:51 PM   #13
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here is a size comparison with a Colt Detective Special (agent version)



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Old May 18, 2001, 07:54 PM   #14
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Dude, my hat's off to 'ya. NICE job.
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Old May 19, 2001, 06:32 AM   #15
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I saw a magazine article about this same mod being offered by some custom gunsmith. Looks like you saved some bucks and did a good job. Personally, I'd have beveled the mag well a bit with a Dremel tool, you could still do that.
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Old May 19, 2001, 11:24 AM   #16
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read my post again I did bevel the mag well. With sandpaper. Dremels are too quick to remove material for me.

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Old May 19, 2001, 11:53 AM   #17
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Adding my compliments on your beautiful work.

The image of your Kahr with the Agent dramatically depicts the size comparison. Nice photography.

Do the MK9 mags all come with the metal floorplate? I really dislike the bulky plastic floorplates on my P9 mags. Would it be practical to order the metal ones to put on my P9 mags, or is there somethign really different about 'em?

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Old May 19, 2001, 03:04 PM   #18
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I think the mag body in the P9 extends beyond the grip making a flush fit floor plate still extend beyond the grip.

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Old May 19, 2001, 03:33 PM   #19
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Nice job!
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Old May 19, 2001, 09:00 PM   #20
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I think I'll just wait for the MP9.
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Old May 20, 2001, 10:40 AM   #21
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Nice job!

If you want those dull edges to shine like the rest of the gun, heat up a thin piece of metal (like a knife blade) and rub it along the cut edges very lightly (just let the blade touch the edge, do not put pressure on it). It should sort of "melt" the rough edge into a smooth one.
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Old May 20, 2001, 07:03 PM   #22
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NICE JOB!!
I have cut polymer before and one good way to "finish" the cut edge is to place a medium grade of sand paper over the cut area and rap it sharply with a nylon or rawhide mallet. You can of course vary the finish by using different grades of sandpaper or even skateboard tape for a stippled effect. One tip, start with finer grades. If they are not detailed enough you can always use a coarser grade over it.
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Old May 20, 2001, 11:50 PM   #23
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Thanks for more responses.. I dont want to risk over melting so I think I will pass on the heat method. Actually it's not all that obvious that the grip was modified. I don't think I want the edges textured either Riddleofsteel but thanks for the tip.

You got to get you one of these. It fits in the front pocket of pants and shorts and is invisible.

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Old May 21, 2001, 11:16 AM   #24
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Wow... Great Job Shiro! You have just created your very own Kahr P9 Covert. Maybe with the right guidance, you could be the next big polymer custom pistolsmith...

I get bored and do stuff to my weapons from time to time, but could never do that to my P9. But then again, you've been pretty unhappy with yours since you got it.

I too will wait for the MP9.... the interchangability of mags is too tempting a feature... Must have both

Again, CONGRATS! Anybody know the Indian word for "Shiro with the brass cahone's"?
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Old May 21, 2001, 12:07 PM   #25
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shiroikuma, You should apply your skills to some other pistols that could use this treatment.
For example Glock 19s. I think a 19 has a good length - but would be better with a 26's frame.
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