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Old May 16, 2001, 01:07 PM   #1
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Trying to ID a rifle I saw this weekend. By the time I thought to ask the guy what it was, he had gone.

It looked "kind of" like a Garand, seemed definately a milsurp piece, seemed from WW11 era or so. Large, stock and handguards went up about as far as a Garand. About the size of a Garand.

Semi auto, round op-rod or bolt handle. Fed from strippers through the top, probably 5-8 rounds. Conventional sights.

Fired a rimmed round, cases seemed about as big as a loaded .308, with a gradual taper to at least .30. Ejection was stout, about 20' to the right front.

Any ideas?
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Old May 16, 2001, 01:30 PM   #2
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Well, the "round op rod or bolt handle" and rimmed round description says to me that it was a Soviet SVT semi-automatic rifle.

Did you notice if it had a box magazine that protruded beneath the body of the rifle?

How about a muzzle brake?

Here's the best picture I found on the web...

See if this rings a bell. RIFLE M/38 TOKARJEV ( SVT-38 )
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Old May 16, 2001, 02:12 PM   #3
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No, no protruding mag, no conspicuous flash hider or brake, but those Russian ones are pretty small, otherwise they look pretty close.

I don't think the action stuck up from the wrist of the stock so severely, if at all.

Argh! I should have just shouted to the guy, but I was busy running through my first set of reloaded ammo.
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Old May 16, 2001, 02:20 PM   #4
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The only other rifle that I can think of other than the SVT that looks sort of like what you're describing is the FN-49 (also sometimes called the SAFN), but they were chambered for rimless ammo (30-06, 7x57, and 8mm Mauser). They look "Garandish" (but with a stripper-fed box mag), and have a round bolt handle.
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Old May 19, 2001, 08:51 PM   #5
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A thought. Are you sure it was semi-auto? The Steyr straight pulls have large round bolt knobs that do not turn down, although they do have protruding magazines.

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